Kazhak

Just wanted to let you know that the Hobart Canine Obedience Club does also offer Agility classes on a sunday, we have classes to suit all levels.. :)

we are based on the soldiers memorial oval on the queens domain.. & by the end of April will be moved into our new very spacious club rooms :)

heres a link to our website in case you end up in the hobart region.

http://www.hdtc.org/

have you tried doing a google search for

Fox Red Labradore + australia

I did that & came up with a few dog studs based in aus & web pages which mention the term..

for those that talk about do or do not breed for colour, there is scientific research which shows that just breeding for temperament will actually change/modify/control the colour of a chosen breed.

For sure - but that doesn't mean selecting for "Red Fox" will get you the dog you want in terms of temperament and health. It may also limit your gene pool.

I didn't say that breeding for colour would change the temperament, just that breeding for temperament also has a factor on coat, nor that breeding for temperament would get you the chosen colour.

I had to say sometimes as it really depends on the situation.

for example when we took our holiday on the mainland for a month we took our boys & our own bedding, we spent time in several caravan parks that were dog friendly which allowed us to have my boys inside with us, linen wasn't provided but as we had our own it wasn't such a big deal to have them on the bed with us.. my boys do not drop hair, nor do they get fleas.

I have never stayed in cottage type pet friendly accm, if we ever did we always take the boys crate along with us & they sleep in that on the floor.

to be honest I think its more polite not to have pets on the furniture even if its pet friendly, unless like I said linen isn't provided & we provide our own than not such a big deal..

forgot to say also that as of this year we have an 8 person tent with a double height queen sized blow up & we choose a pet friendly caravan park with camping over cottage style accm.. :) means they can sleep on the bed with no issues :)

have you tried doing a google search for

Fox Red Labradore + australia

I did that & came up with a few dog studs based in aus & web pages which mention the term..

for those that talk about do or do not breed for colour, there is scientific research which shows that just breeding for temperament will actually change/modify/control the colour of a chosen breed.

How did I Totally miss this thread :) first off Congrats :) you will never go back to having a normal dog..

I don't wash too much, in fact I found it was causing issues, I do however use coconut oil on dry skin.

yup as some have said about materials of jackets, (mine have no probs) my oldest feels the cold cause he spent more time in nsw before coming to tassie so I have heaps of different jackets for him, I keep them clean & washed regularly, my youngest Rumba doesn't feel the cold near as much so he lives naked more often than not.

I feed my boys a grain free fish based dog food as well as raw meats, the fish oil is good for their skin. having moved them over to this I find the older one doesn't get boils..

I do not use sunscreen on either boy as they are both dark skinned & they need vitamin D, suncreen is toxic for us let alone for a dog. I did make four legged pj style jumpers out of rash vest material for those times when the uv is high if we are out in the sun.. lol I call them their swimmers.. I should get some photos of that :)

they are not normal dogs lol, they are even better

Cresteds really love their people, both mine are velcro dogs though Krusty is very laid back for the breed & will cuddle with just about anyone, but will always come back to me :) he knows I'm his mum :) Rumba however gets a bit nervous if anyone else shows to much attention to him, he prefers my attentions :)

has your puppy started doing Zoomies yet?? its where they run around in circles or figure 8s flat stick :)

Forgot to say your little pup is just adorable :)

also yes there is a crested thread in the breed sub forums.. I just posted in there so it should be close to the top of the list

My advice is to build a relationship with your chosen breeder, before you start asking for a breeding animal.

I live in tassie where my chosen breed is few & far between, I don't show yet, nor am I thinking about breeding yet, however I have started a relationship with my chosen breeder, they live in nsw, however I have 2 of her nuetered boys, both were offered for pet homes, (my oldest already had his showing championship) On both the occasions I personally went to collect my boys & spent time, getting to know their breeder. I adore my boys to bits, have learnt so much about them by having them in my life, I share their moments with their breeder, I hope 1 day in the future their breeder may trust me with a show quality breeding quality animal. Until then I will continue to trial both my boys in agility :)

Gosh I just read through your whole thread.. I know just how you feel, my mums partner is just like your step dad, though my mum does like my 2 little boys, thankfully I live with my partner, but when I go to visit I don't go anywhere without my boys, (I have 2 hairless chinese cresteds) mine don't even drop hair let alone get dirty nor do they smell doggy, but he cracks the shits if they even think about going inside.. (he doesn't like me either) over xmas my mum & he went to the UK to visit my brother & my mum asked if I would house sit, of course she knew I would bring my boys, lol they were inside all the time :) when my mum came back they couldn't even tell, the house was that clean..

anyway I just wanted to say gosh what a stressful eventful christmas you & your dogs have had, while I'm sure it was hard trying to keep your little family together, I'm glad you managed it & are now safe in your own place, nothing like having your own space.

we usually just get the pet poo bags in the dispenser roll from the reject shop or shiploads or chickenfeed before they closed.. or if I forget the dispenser I usually grab about 4 bags off the council rolls at the local dog friendly beach but I usually use about 2 while I'm there & the other 2 are for those random poos inconsiderate people leave in the sand for people to walk on.. really pisses me off, when there is several of those council rolls stationed all over the place there that people don't get a bag before they walk & pick up their own dogs poo..

if however I'm cleaning poo up at home then I use whatever is handy..

the council provided roll at the domain where our dog club is tends to run out pretty quickly but its used by a lot of people.. but to tell the truth we're very grateful that a roll is provided there :)

seems to me the dog might actually have a brain disorder of some kind or it hyperventilated..

but yeah i wouldn't be sharing it on youtube I'd be getting it checked out.

Did anyone mention that there are services that can come to your horse to pet sit or your dog can go to someones house, keep in mind a good service should/would do police checks on their staff.. we have a great service down here in Tas..

in saying that we plan our holidays around our dogs.. so if we're going to the mainland for a length of time my boys go with me.. if I had to leave the country then my boys would probably stay with their breeder because I know they would love a holiday with her & she's the one other than me I trust with my little guys :) if its short notice I know my mum would look after them for me, like if I had to go into hospital or something..

forgot to say we also have 3 cats so we've got an arrangement with our lovely next door neighbours who come in every second day to check water & kitty litter & food.. otherwise we just load up automatic feeders & waters for them :)

who the hell feeds other dogs at the dog park.. is it just me or does that seem like a really weird thing to do.. of course for the obvious reason of resource guarding.. but also my dogs are allergic to some foods so certainly wouldn't want mine being fed anything by anyone I didn't know. not to mention I just wouldn't want anyone I didn't know feeding my dogs I guess this is another reason for me to stay away from dog parks.. I already see them as a very dangerous place to take my beloved pet.. :)

To be Honest I would advise once your pup has had full course of Vaccinations that you take him/her to puppy class & get it socialised with other dogs..

very glad to hear that the bloody poo problem has cleared up..

your puppy wont go into the kennel unless you encourage him to do so by playing with your pup using some food rewards in the kennel to get him to go in there, just leaving a pup alone & expecting it to understand what the kennel is, is not going to get it in the kennel..

you know I really hate this comp.. every year it misaligns the breed I hold very dear... I know there are a lot of other breeds there, but every year there is at least one unhealthy or crossbred hairless chinese crested that usually wins.. its disgusting..

what a rotten moron.... he clearly provoked the animal, knowing full well that it would at the very least bark to protect its home (even my chinese crested would bark to protect me or his home) this is disgusting behaviour from a bunch of thug policemen.. certainly does not inspire confidence or trust in our law enforcement..

they should be charged with animal cruelty & released from service.. Animal cruelty is no joke.. rotten morons..

gosh she is sooo beautiful.. very lucky to have fallen into a crestie home :) & lovely to see that those crazy figure 8 zoomies are classic for the breed.. my boys do that too. sooo much fun to watch :) my boys do beach & paddock zoomies..

she is only little but then the breed isn't very big & she's still only a pup.. sooo cute though..

poppy gaaah so cute.. dang making me want another one now.. lol.. best breed in the world :)

Brilliant thank you for sharing.. I've got a set of weaves on a base that concertinas, but it makes it hard to teach 2 by 2's think this might be better solution.. + we might use this for our club's equipment, too.. just as an alternative to what we do have already..

thanks for sharing..

both my boys were rehomed by their original breeder when the circumstances of the owner changed, thats not to say I would vote that they should always take one they bred back.. it depends on the circumstances of all involved.. I applaud the breeder of my boys for being responsible & caring enough to step in & rehome though..

To be frankly honest though once an animal is homed with a new family there has got to be more responsibility placed on them to responsibly rehome their pet if their circumstances change..

Hey everyone, I was hoping for some opinions on agility training and the agility club I had recently been going to.

I originally started doing agility with my dog up in Townsville with TOADS, and I was a big fan of all the people up there and their training methods. My dog, Loki, can sometimes get to too high of an arousal state and lose track of what she's suppose to be doing, and they were always really helpful in helping me get on track. We ended up having to move, but I was able to find a new agility club in our new town.

Sadly, I don't know how I feel about this new club and was wondering how you all felt about how they reacted to a situation that happened during a training session a few months ago. I was working Loki off lead doing some jumps, I think, when a dog started barking off in one direction. She got distracted by the noise, I tried to refocus her, but she ended up focusing on a little Dachshund that was part of our class. I'm very ashamed to say she lunged the little dog, who then slipped her collar and started running around. The little dog started shrieking and my dog continued to chase her. I was attempting to call my dog back when nearly every person at the club started screaming, running after her, and one even attempting to hit her with one of the metal jump stands. I am sure my dog couldn't hear me over any of that, and any chance I had of getting her back under control was lost. Eventually the little dog ran close enough that someone was able to pick her up, everyone was still screaming at my dog, making threatening gestures towards her, and some were still swinging things. The Dachshund was completely unhurt physically, though I'm sure it was traumatizing for her.

So, my question is: is it unreasonable of me to think that this was a completely incorrect response to the situation? I am so ashamed of myself in not recognizing that my dog was too wound up to be off lead at the time, and I in no way am saying I, or her, were not in the wrong. But, I feel if I had been given even a moment more, I might have been able to call her away before it all fell apart so terribly. I know the little dog was making terrible noises, but my dog never once bit her, picked her up, or pinned her. I believe she was mostly attempting to herd her, which I know is still wrong and inappropriate, but I didn't think it warranted the response it got. Once I finally had her, I was in tears and she was terrified of nearly everyone in the class. Even now, I feel awful and on the verge of tears, months later.

Maybe I'm being unfair because it was my dog, and everyone reacted in a reasonable way, I just want some opinions. The woman who had been doing the classes ended up moving away and it looks like they've gotten a new person to do the agility classes and I'm trying to decide if I want to attempt it again. We've mostly been working on our own, with recall, staying focused, as well as agility training.

Sorry for the super long post, but I have lost a lot of my confidence since that indecent and I could really use some feedback. Thank you for reading.

I actually had this happen to me last year but I was on the other end of it, my dog was the one chased screaming around our training grounds, non of the people at my club reacted the way the people did at your new club so I feel that they all over reacted & you should have been given more of a chance to call your dog off.. however I cannot say enough how traumatising this event was for my dog & it took nearly 12 months to get him confortable around dogs again.. to boot I'm sure it was traunatising for your dog to be threatened with the jump poles, I just wonder where the instructors were during all this.. though I'm sure all everyone thought was that if your dog actually caught the little dog it would have been all over for the little one.

one technique my instructor has used to break that kind of behaviour was to have a choker chain in a bag (not for use on dog) but to throw on the ground near the dog, the noise should be enough to break the dogs attention from other dogs or something not you (I hope that makes sense) I've seen it work in a case similar to yours, where the dog has taken off after another & the instructor threw the chain down on the ground wich caught the chasers attention enough that it allowed the owner to regain control of her dog..

Sad the cat got hurt..

but to be honest my cat lives in 24/7 & she's fine with it not to mention she's got no risk of being in a cat or dog fight, she's much healthier for it..

I'm on the other end, i've got 2 chinese crested who were both rehomed to me & I adore my boys, 1 is an ex show dog who retired before he came to me after getting his championship, & the other was a special case at the time of him needing a new home, when we went to pick the second boy up we had the first with us who at that point I'd had over 12 months & he still recognised his breeder, so to be honest I wouldn't be wanting to visit the rehomed dog personally as I think it would be stressful for the dog not to mention the new owners.

in saying that, I do occasionally around the christmas time send a text or email to my boys breeder letting her know how they are doing & wishing merry xmas from me & the boys, my oldest has started agility trialing so I like to think its nice for her to hear how well he's doing & how much I love & appreciate them & appreciate that she let them come & stay with me..

Rally trial for us today. The feral Kirra was...feral ...but in spite of a big handler error on my part causing a 10 point IPS, she did manage to scrape through Excellent B and then put in a bit better effort to pass Advanced B, and get her 9th leg towards RAE.

Little big man Rory did quite nicely in Excellent B .. in spite of my rubbish handling causing us to lose 6 points but still got 2nd. (Memo to self..you do not need to say "sit" at a halt to your obedience trained dog..that's for the feral one :-).) We made up for it in Adv. B with a 99 and 1st. That was his 9th leg towards RAE2.

nice work Barb, congrats..

just to clarify my point about knowing I could take my dogs food away.. just a point that I could if needed & my boys would be fine because they don't resource guard but thats not to say I would take their food away. yup its their food/dinner, once their bowls are down & release is given (I only do this so I don't get rushed) then they are free to eat their tea.

"Pet accessory" that says a lot to me about what these people think about Animals.. & no thats not a new breed, it takes years & years & years of breeding to get something that will breed its genes on..

thats just a crossbred, back in the day we used to call those mutts or mongrels, derogatory terms I know, theres nothing wrong with a crossbred, but to spout it as a new breed is ridiculous..

as far as pets go a pet store down here where I live actually works with the cats home, so instead of having kittens to sell they bring in cats home cats to try & find them homes instead, that way they aren't contributing to byb stuff but really trying to make a difference to the rescue ones :) much better idea,

but I don't like to see pups or kittens in pet shops anymore, though the rescue ones are a nice idea specially if they are adults already..

one place I knew off would only hold pups for a certain amount of time before they sent them back to the breeder, seriously they wouldn't take pups unless they had breeder details & agreement for the breeder to pick up if pups didn't sell in set time..