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Ok here are the pics of my girls. Millie is the gold cocker & Jess is the Black Cocker. If you think they look weird its cause we shave them for convenience. We take the camping out Bush and they love it, but better to be clean than knotty.

i have to figure out how to make the pics smaller first. I tried yesturday with no luck

thanks maverick. The idea if being a bad owner kills me, as my girls mean the world to me

Thanks again guys for replying, but now i must admit i sound like a bad dog owner and this depresses me They mean the world to me, but i agree with everyone here. things need to change, and my husband and i started the moment we got home. We went out the back, and said hello and let them in, but we didnt over fuss her or bend down to her (which my husband really wanted to) - no pee great day 1. I said he could fuss her once she calmed down from us getting home. My partner knows this is important and all night when she did something he called me first and asked me what to do. She had pulled a plant out and brought it inside and sat it next to her infront of my partner. I told him to tell her no because he caught her doing it. We put her outside for 10 minutes then brought her back in and treat her like it didnt happen. No need to be shitty all night. plus no smack. I can see she need to gain confidence again. I didnt like the comment about us trying to make Millie the top dog, we defiantely dont do that. The problem at the moment is we just cant figure out who the top dog is. Its not that black and white. And in the mean time what are we suppose to do when you dont know who the top dog is. I currently make them both sit and put there food down at the same time. When feeding treats i take it in turns of who i give it to first. I even asked my mum who knows about dogs, and she even said its hard to tell at the moment, and that they must still be trying to figure it out or fighting it out. They both do seperate things which makes you think they are top dog. To all those discussing Rage Syndrom, i do know about it and i know my 2 dont suffer from it, as it is a very serious thing, not just a grumble here or there. The first time millie tried to challange me as a pup and she barked at me, i looked into it a lot and they defiantely dont have it. In regards to them being bored and having toys, i doubt it very much as they have hundred of toys in their toy box and the are always getting them out. They play tug o war a lot together, and Jess is addicted to tennis balls.

Thank you everyone for replying and trying to help me out. I guess first thing is first no more telling Jess off. I dont want her to be a nervous wreak. I do actually take away Jess's treat when millie has finished, because of the trouble Jess causes by hoarding it. The only time that she realises to eat it is when we are giving them food from our plate and Jess see's millie keeps getting more food cause she ate the 1st one, then jess will eat hers because she knows another bit is on the way. molasseslass - Im not sure i know what you mean, are you saying we should fuss Millie more than jess, i thought favouring one would be bad, especially if jess thinks she's the top dog and we give more attention to millie? Thanks again everyone

Hi Maverick, yes cockers are the best We try not to favour one, because im well aware that it wouldnt be fair on Jess to do that. I also make sure i spend one on one time with them both. So i cant say we say hello to one of the first everytime. Also with their dinners we dont tend to feed them at the same time as us, but we arent strict on weather its before ours or after our dinner. Does this make a difference? Although we spoil them we also let them know who's boss. We knew from day one Jess would push the authority boundries. As my partner says she's a little devil. But other times she is the cutest puppy ever. We have started basic training with them, and they love to do "tricks" more than anything. Did anyone have any suggestions on the growling over treats / bones. And holding onto it until millie hasnt got one anymore? :-)

hi trifecta, The girls do have their own bed, but they sleep on our bed, and we let them on the couch. I realise people will say this is the wrong thing to do, but we love them and want to treat them like us. We love cuddling them and getting kisses. I know we spoil our girls more than anyone we know, but thats how we want it to be. Millie is spoilt but is still the most beautiful dog, and everyone we know always comments on how great they are. Jess is the best cuddler ever. Im smiling even thinking about them. :-)

Thank you molasseslass for those great links, i have printed them out and i will make my husband read them. I wish he could just beleive it. But i will be doing my best to get him to understand. It all makes sense to me. I agree with what you are saying SkyesongTollrz, although i do beleive they know what they have done, well i know millie defiantely does. I just want to get it sorted so she can be a happy little girl. She know's we love her and millie to death, we take them everywhere with us. Its sad to see her like this

Hi Everyone, this is my first times on these boards and im praying someone here may have a suggestion or two. We have 2 cocker spaniels, Millie is 2 and a half, Jess is only 9 months. Jess is the one with the problems. Millie is fantastic. We have 2 seperate problems with Jess, peeing and growling/ dominance. We have a doggy door and Jess uses it during the day, but at night time she never either bothers to go outside or doesnt make it. But i dont think its not the making it one to be honest. Also when we come home we have to go outside to greet them as Jess pees everywhere, but then when you say her name as though you are dissapointed she rolls on her back and continues to pee all over herself. Also if you praise her for not peeing she then pees. All she does is pees. Pees when praised and told off. We have tried everything. Taking her out before bed, not fussing her when we get home, telling her off, not telling her off. We never had these troubles with millie and ive tried everything i've read. As telling millie off worked my husband has continued to tell Jess off and give her a smack. I understand his reasoning as ignoring it isnt working either. But now im worried she's all nervous when happy and sad. We need help before it goes on forever. Its not good for her our us. We want to get her desexed but have heard this can make it worse if not permanant. If she's been naughty and she's sitting on the couch we cant even approach her as she knows she's done wrong and then pee's on the couch. Oddly enough the second problem almost is an exact opposite, She may be nervy but she is also quiet dominant. If you go to move her and she doesnt want to she growls at you. I dont like the fact that i cant tell if she's serious or just having a little winge. Also she pushes the boundrys with millie. And always gets jealous if you pat millie. She has to be in your face all the time. She does entertain herself really well by playing with tennis balls. so she's never bored. Also if we give both her and millie a treat or bone, Jess will just guard her's and not eat it, and then shows it off to millie, when millies finished hers. Unfortunely they have to be outside when we arnt home now cause Jess kept eating the walls, and we just fixed them so we dont want a repeat of the damage. Now they both are eating the plants and digging. Telling them off for that isnt working either. They both know they've done wrong though, millie puts her head down and Jess will pee before you even open your mouth. We are desperate for help, I dont want to punish Jess anymore as its not working, and i dont want her hating us either. (not that she does now) How can she be so bossy yet so sensitive. Please help