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Ray27

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  1. Yes defiantely foolish. (Sorry for rediculously long post & spelling errors in previous post). Owners are all very young & I am suspecting "lockdown" puppies have been purchased with many completely unaware of the potential size & strength of their chosen breeds & the need for proper training & adequate socialisation - and not in the crazy overcrowded tiny park. Poor bull arab's owner seemed surprised by his dogs behaviour (although not making any excuses for him)- but I think it's a case of not having done any homework before purchasing the wrong breed as a first time dog owner.
  2. Yet another very preventable incident happened at a local dog park today. During the pandemic my partner has been picking me up from work each day & regularly parks across the road at a small park. Not deignated as a " dog park" as such and sururrounded on three sides by high rise flats and on one side by a road, the park is a relativly small square of grass with some small mounds and rose bushes at one end & a few park benches surrounding the level grassed area at the other. The park seems to be frequented by a steadily growing number of what appears to be first time dog owners who all seem to have relatively new puppies from around the 3 mth & upwards age range. There are a gang of the oodle doodles, a dachund, who holds it's own with all of them & does the occasional "woof" & jumps up on the park bench when things get too much; a grey & white Am Staffy that is gangly & goofy & the little ones lick at its face trying to play; a few Frenchies of various sizes that gallop about, & a giant young Rotweiler that is suprisingly good tempered when all the little moodles & similar combinations try & tackle it. It simply does gentle play bows & runs about with them patiently. The various owners stand around smiling, sometimes offering treats (seemingly for just existing), but there is no training, no recalls &, it seems, it is rarely time to leave- even when their dogs are obviously trying to get away from some of the more rambunctious larger & older dogs by looking at them pleadingly for assistance or hiding between their owners legs. The number of owners and dogs keeps seeming to grow in size, and although at first glance the park appears to offer some kind of "puppy heaven" with lots of playing and gentle "bitey face " and "zoomies", after watching a little more closely recently I noticed that things were getting more & more out of control. One miniture poodle had to be removed after repeatly trying to hump one of the smaller dogs like there was "no tomorrow", one young shepard had to be placed back on the lead when it began a game of chase that was becoming predatory towards an older pomeranian, & some of the younger puppies were obviously becoming nervous & not wanting to play at all. I recently commented that although things looked "cute" from a distance, things were potentially about to go horribly wrong. Unfortunately today was that day. On leaving work I noticed that said partner was standing in front of the car &, as this was unusual, I asked what was up. She outlined a quite horrific incident that had unfolded in front of her & actually caused her to jump out of the car & run full pelt towards the hapless dog owners to try & save one of their own dogs. Today apparently all the dogs and owners were there at the same time, so the park was a muddle of different sized dogs. A terrible screaming of a dog in pain had rung out- a half grown shei pei was standing & literally screaming in terror & on the side of it's face a larger bull arab type breed had totally latched on! Nervous dog owners stood around & at the same moment the young shepard, unnoticed in the shananigans, had lunged towards one of the smaller dogs & was about to grab it over the back. Ploughing towards the shei pei & bull arab, whose owner seemed to be gently trying to call it off with a repeated "release" command & some other gentle but unheard words that the bull arab was obviously not familiar with, partner had yelled at the shepards owner to "put it on a lead!" & then tersley told the owner of the bull arab to "shove your finger up it's arse!" Bull arab owner keep trying to pull the dog off instead but after another person known to the dog owner yelled out the same thing, he did just that & his dog immediately released. It was still an effort to drag his dog away & by this point he was bleeding- him not his dog. The Shei pei's owner organised their partner to call the vet & my partner had to offer a clean tissue to allow the bull arab's owner to apply pressure to his (thankfully minor wound) to his arm. All he could repeat was that "it was ok as his dog did not have anything!" (As if a doogie form of HIV was the shei pei owners biggest concern!) Hopefully he has had a tenus shot. After this my now shaken partner had actually stood & announced to the dog owners that she had noticed "alot of roughhousing" happening lately and these dogs needed to be on the lead. Very brave of her I thought given what had gone down, but a no-win situation for everyone least of all the poor dogs.
  3. Definately think the Border Collie may be a great suggestion- the smooth would give you less coat as well. Obvious choice for active lifestyle, highly trainable so would stay on the trail with you, and definately a winner at agility! Meanwhile the Rescue dog I suggested above has been adopted so that is good news All the best with whatever breed you choose though corvus! Please send us lots of photos when that day comes!
  4. Ok think I may have found the one! https://www.petrescue.com.au/listings/868466 Otherwise if wanting a puebred, which I should be promoting here, how about the Bouvier des Flandres? "They are an excellent fit for an active household with an owner who hikes or jogs or even bikes" taken from Dogs NSW. Sounds like they are fit, strong, can run for miles & have a rough type coat suited to extremes of temperature. They also don't sound "soft" & apparently also potentially good at agility. Not sure if there are many breeders available though!
  5. Definately all the points above re alerting council of both the dogs coming onto your land and the puppy farm's existence, plus keeping a paper trail. Also not sure what terms you are already on with your neighbour, but if you had some evidence of the situation -those sensor activated outdoor cameras may be useful for this-your neighbour may be persuaded to opt for paying for an extension to your fence - say with wire mesh, to block the gap between your fence and the ground, or even building a whole new adjoining fence to keep their dogs safe. ( After all you have had the biggest outlay of the initial fence). If not, I think your neighbour would be at fault if the dogs were straying and they would need to bear the consequences.
  6. So sorry to hear. Pickles was indeed and is still perfect! Thinking of you in your loss.
  7. There must be something about some dogs that seem to naturally protect infants and young children at all costs, and others for whom things go horribly wrong. The ACD stories above made me wonder if this guarding instint was common to other "working dogs" too. My first dog as a child was already around 5 yrs old when I came along.I am not sure what mixture of breeds he was, but the closest thing looking back, by his colouring, shape and form seemed to be a Bordie collie Kelpie cross. He had been adopted from a shelter at around 18 mths, and my parents had no prior knowledge of his background. There were also no formal socialisation programs for dogs and babies back then. Despite this my parents must have have trusted him alot as I was placed outside in a pram for the " sun kicks" that were all the rage for parents to do with infants back in the 60's! Fortunately for me he immediately took on the role of guarding my pram. In a secured backyard he didn't have anything to"guard" me from, but Mum & dad used to show me photos of him sitting by the side of the pram & if guests were in the yard he became quite alert if they came too close. One particular day however, my mother recounted what could have been a disaster. I was about 18mths and was outside alone with my beloved Sebastian whilst she looked on to the backyard from the nearby kitchen window whilst she washed up. ( Obviously all the things you should never do with a dog and an Infant!). As my mother watched me interacting with the dog, she suddenly realsised to her horror that she had forgotten to take last nights lamb bone off our dog Sebastian before I had ventured out in the yard! Filled with natural anxiety for what would happen, she rushed outside to see me gently taking the lamb bone right out of my dogs mouth whilst he sat there patiently waiting. It was too late for her to do anything and she didn't want to rush in and startle him. Sure enough I gave it back to him, (after having a chew on it myself!!), and he calmly continued knawing on his bone! He was one amazing dog.
  8. This is a great idea. A family dog- a little Shih Tzu many years ago had a terrible accident from falling into a pool. I had left home a few years before and my family had moved house to somewhere with a pool. There were no fencing requirements at the time-external only not from the pool to the house. She did not pass away- but they phoned me to say they had come home to her swimming around and around the pool trying to get out! They had been gone for three hours so goodness knows how long she had been in there! There were steps into the pool but nothing a little Shih Tzu could climb out of with those tiny front legs and a coat heavy with water. They told me they had rushed her to the vet but she had water on the lungs- and a cough for the rest of her life. A the time they were pensioners so I think the option of getting the pool fenced straight away was not an option for them. This idea may have prevented this from happening!
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