Dogs are family

The 1st issue I wasn't aware of as being inherited when 2nd deposit paid. That was a re ascending testicle at 7 mths old. So I had placed a dep for 2nd pup. You posters out there must have a money tree out back. I did not want to lose my $1000. Only one of us is able to work in our household. It is only of late that all these issues with other dogs have come to light. Who of you would of let your $1000 go, because breeder demanded balance of $3000, 2 mths before pup being available at 8 wks. I believe many of you would pay the money, but not be happy about it. I had full trust in the breeders at that time. A pup was allocated to me after litter being temperament tested at 6 wks. I was awaiting information on flight dates and times, when instead I was informed my pup had died at 7 wks according to breeder. I absolutely did ask for the full amount back, and in this case they should have followed through with reimbursement. I simply did not change my mind. I am sure most of you would have to agree with that. They flatly refused reimbursement. Now that pup died in their home, not in mine, as some of you are actually insinuating about other people. So to those that say I am partly to blame, how do you honestly work that out.

If there is actual evidence, problems are arising out of your bloodlines, any ethical breeder would seriously look into these issues. It is a breach of code by the State bodies to continue breeding these lines.

I am absolutely shocked by these responses to my post. Some of you with accusations of writing untruths or being told I myself as a new owner of a defective pup is being deceitful. . I simply thought I would give some helpful advice, to make people aware, picking a breeder is not done on a whim. . I cannot give out evidence in this thread, and I cannot name breeder, as much as I would love to. Yes, is one breeder though. There have been complaints lodged by several people to the State bodies, VCAT and Lawyers enacted in these cases. This is not over a number of years either. I guess it is the world we live in today, that people feel they get by, by criticizing others, when they in actual fact, cannot present evidence to substantiate their claims. We all have actual evidence in our cases, as well as reports from a number of Vets and Specialists. We do not all reside in the same state. To those of you who have made these statements, it is very sad that you choose to target owners, and not have any compassion for the animals especially that are suffering. As I said earlier, I simply only wanted to help people, so hopefully they could avoid finding themselves in a most stressful situation with their new family members. Renal failure and a grade 4 heart murmur do not come from injuries. Nor do 2 dogs from the same litter, that live in 2 different families and hrs apart, end up with a jaw defect from injury. There is so much more to these cases. If you had the full information, none of you would have responded with contempt, instead, you yourselves would be most alarmed at the actual evidence. .

This is advice to potential puppy buyers, after my 2 bad experiences, over 2 dogs, from same breeder. I would like to offer some advice based on what I have experienced, and what I would do next time if I had to choose another breeder, if at all. I am offering this in the hope that other potential puppy buyers avoid large financial costs re health problems. 1...Check out your potential breeder on Facebook. If they DO NOT have a FB page, ask yourself whyyyyyyy. Just do not go by their website or advertising on different sites like this one. Absolutely no disrepect meant to this site. There are some very honest, and ethical breeders to be found here I have found out since. Trust me, as good as the breeder looks, sounds on the phone or how good their dog's look, that can also hold dishonest information. Unfortunately there are breeders out there, that give the honest and ethical breeders a very bad name. Quite often breeders are not in your state and you cannot view litter. In my case, 1st litter in my state, not far from home, but still was not allowed to view. 2...Always ask for a contract or something in writing with signature, re refund of deposits should something go wrong at either end. EG If for some reason you cannot go through with your purchase due to a valid reason, Not simply because you changed your mind. EG At breeders end, a timeframe of supplying pup to you, whether that pup is what you originally asked for. Eg, you specified a Long Coat , you know exactly what typical balls of fluff look like in that breed, but what they are trying to sell you, does not fit that description. 3... If you have heard on the grapevine, bad reviews or reports about this breeder, LISTEN carefully and heed advice. The breeder I have dealt with has been very deceitful involving a number of buyers. There is actual evidence of that. You could even contact the State bodies in your state, eg Dogs Victoria and ask has there been any reports / breaches re your selected breeder. 4...If your pup is confirmed with a defect within the 1st year, any genuine ethical breeder, should provide a replacement pup. But the problem there is, most owners will be attached to their new family member, so the likes of the following, should state similar in writing. EG, Any inherited /Genetic defects, Hip Dysplasia, heart murmurs, jaw defects the breeder should be more than happy to cover the financial costs of treatment, should there be any. Especially if that breeder is known to breed a large number of litters regularly, and there is confirmation of a defect already at 14 wks. Yes pups can grow out of some defects, but unfortunately some get worse with time, and the quality of life of that pup is greatly affected as a few of us have experienced. 5...If your breeder becomes defensive Eg you are asking for a refund, you know that breeder has had problems before. In my case, as much we did not want to lose a $1000 of our hard earned money, we would have been $9000 better off. And that is to date only, and does not include purchase price. 6...If you request pedigree papers from parents, Hip and Elbow scores etc, pictures of parents or other progeny, they should be able provide that immediately, or at least within a week. Beware,..........if they are not, and continual excuses of delays. Yes I understand on the odd occasion, breeder may not be able to, but not on a regular basis. 7... A breeder should not ask for balance of payment 2 mths before puppy due to arrive in your family. I was told I would lose my place in a litter (already had placed a $1000 deposit 6 mths before), if I did not pay in full(another $3000, 2 mths prior. Both payments had to be paid within a 24 hr period. 8... Ask the time frame for receiving pedigree papers. With 1st dog took 15mths to transfer into my name and receive pedigree papers. 2nd pup is now 12 mths old and still no papers sighted. Conclusion, be very mindful of which breeder you choose, do your homework exceptionally well. Just because they sound honest, does not necessarily mean that they are. A breeder should always be very transparent in their bloodlines with lot's of pictures, information, reports etc and reply to calls, texts, emails in a timely manor also. Not in a few weeks time. CONCLUSION: dealing with this breeder has been an exceptionally bad experience, never before have I been through this with any other breeder in my time. It has been most stressful emotionally and financially, most challenging, and been a significant amount of intimidation by them, to add to the drama. This is not just a one person experience either. Several people have made a complaint re this breeder to the state body in our states, re the codes they breached. We are then having to take the matter further. Wishing you all the very best of luck with all your future puppy purchases and hope they are healthy and happy and able to live out their full lives. The vast majority will be healthy puppies, but there unfortunately is a minority that will not be, and breeders should be responsible financially for/or replace those. I cannot expose the name of breeder for obvious reasons.