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Hi Everyone l am Collies02, Yes l have the Aust Made with Aust ingredients Lamb & Rice holistic dog food, Just want to say alot of imported products are irradiated, unless the manufacturer supplies AQIS with the temperature the product is cooked at AQIS will irradiate the product, My lamb & Rice has no wheat no corn and no soy, all added as fillers and to boost protein which is virtually usless to dogs, The Protein in my lamb & rice comes from the Lamb meal, it is also high in antioxidents (Blueberries etc), most people can not believe my German shepherds have 1 1/2 cups per night and are in very good condition, they also get raw minced chicken as l like to feed raw meat to, Kelly who distributes in NSW & ACT owns Labs she feeds them 300gm, Here in Vic another Lab breeder has just started on the Lamb & Rice as she was having to feed 5 cups of Royal Canin Lab, it all comes down to the ingredients less fillers means the dogs get more out of the food, and less the other end, If anyone would like a list of the ingredients it can be found on my website as well as a list of distributors, as well as the ones mentioned, Happy to answer any questions anyone has, but best to e-mail me as l am not on DOL all the time, l am very happy there is excellent feed back on the lamb & rice especially dogs with allergies and skin problems. Thanks Sherel www.kylainknls.com

Hi Yes absolutely, can do 3 kg for you. LOL 20 kg might outlast the cat. Happy to send whatever amount, e-mail you address if you would like a sample first oh cool so you do say a 3kg bag as well?? with one cat a 20kg bag will last me 2 years :D

Hi Oonga it can come in any size up to 20kg

Hi Chocolate Your welcome if l can answer any more questions please just ask, l would prefer to have the correct information out there

Hi Chocolate Sorry to say you have your sums wrong re packaging, first you have to pay for a reg name (which by the way is in the pipeline) then its $30,000 to have the actual plate made to print the bags, then the cost of printing the bags and the cost of the bags, The reason the company that manufacture is not listed on the bag is (if you read previous posts) they make it under licenced contract for someone else, the manufacturer doesnt even own the formula's. So they make it they dont own Legally all that has to be on the bag is, Ingredients, recommended feeding guidelines and a contact name., No one has aked you to buy this food, again legally whats on the label is what has to be in the bag. if your suss or fishy l will happily send you a sample and you can go have it tested. As for the price of it in Perth, call some transport companies and find out how much to ship a 640kg pallet if you need the dimensions. 1.1 x 1.1 x 1.2 If you can buy such other quality brands cheaper. go for it, This food is obviously not for you

Hi Jules Thanks for the thumbs up. Yes have all three formula's No Pro Plan dont make it, The reason why its not public knowledge (so to speak) who manufacture the product (under the contract) is, there has been alot of time effort and finances etc go into these formula's and to sercure the huge market it has in Japan, someone tired very very hard to steal it all, its a long story one l wont go into, so now it just has who it is packed for. If you PM me your postal addy l will send you a sample of cat food,

Hi Stormie Whilst the food is packed into a plain white bag it does (should unless someone is changing it) list the ingredients and recommended feeding guidelines, and contact details. on the bag. Its just not in a fancy coloured bag. If the formula's weren't as stated on the bags you would be asking for trouble. There was alot of time effort and money put into gettting this formula's right for a very fussy international market, This product is manufactured under licenced contract the formula is owned by the the people it is manufactured for, this product is shipped to Japan in huge quanities anyone who knows anything about the Japanese market would know they are extremely fussy Its the same with Aldi products they dont manufacture they have it made under licence for them, This thread was not started for any other reason than to get some feed back re the cat formula, which l will thank all those people who have contacted me and answered my original question. Thank you.

This is Ligit and not self promotion if you read the first post l was looking for cat people that could look at the cat formula for me, l am a dog person not a cat person, l wanted to know what Cat people thought of the formula, l was then asked for the formula's. There should be contact details on your bags and any samples. There is a Banner currently in the making to go on DOL Troy can varify that. Some people amaze me simply asking for some advice and it gets turned around, l actually care what goes into the mouths of all animals not just my own, hence why l was asking for opinions on the cat formula.

Sorry but the Brand of this dog food is NOT best care,

Perth WA contact Wendy 0412027254 If you are interested in SA, l can check out frieght for you. l can send you a sample first, Hopefully in the new year l will be doing a delivery run to SA,

Technically it is no brand, it is Lamb & Rice Holistic, It is 100 % aust made from human grade ingredients. it is made by friends of mine and was to be exclusively exported to Japan. it is made under contract. my friends are not doggy people and due to the huge amounts they ship to Japan to a very fussy market they didnt have time for the domestic market, hence they gave it to me, This product is very realistically priced. it comes in a plain white bag with the label and contact details. we have looked into putting it into a fancy bag etc and you will ad another $7- $10 per bag, l am not interested in the fancy bag as the product and word of mouth have spoken for it, and l prefer not to ad that costs to keep it affordable, being Aust made it is not subjected to irridation, and its fresher. you can see pictures of it on my website www.kylainknls.com it is so far available in Vic, NSW, Nth Qld & WA l am hoping to do a delivery run to Tasmania in the new year

DRY CAT FORMULA HOLISTIC FELINE FORMULA PRODUCT NAME: HOLISTIC FELINE FORMULA 30/18 Product Description: A single component natural coloured, mini kibble that is highly nutritious, very palatable and formulated with a combination of natural fibres to aid in the prevention of hairballs. The product is complete and balanced for the growth of kittens and the maintenance of adult cats Guaranteed Analysis Moisture Maximum 10.00 % Protein Minimum 32.00 % Fat Minimum 18.00 % Fibre Maximum 4.50 % Ash Maximum 7.00 % Calcium Minimum 1.00 % Phosphorus Minimum 0.80 % Moisture Minimum 10.00 % Taurine Minimum 0.10 % ME 3.760 kcal/g Ingredients Statement Chicken Meal, Poultry Fat (Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, source of Vitamin E, Citric Acid and Rosemary Extract), Whole Ground Rice, Fish Meal, Whole Ground Sorghum, Powdered Cellulose, Oat Groats, Digest of Poultry and Fish, Brewers Yeast, Choline Chloride, Tomato Powder, Potassium Chloride, DL-Methionine, Taurine, L-Lysine, Preserved with mixed Tocopherols, Citric Acid and Rosemary Extract, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Zinc Oxide, Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Iron Sulfate, Vitamin A-Acetate, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Manganous Oxide, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Riboflavin, Niacin, Calcium Pantothenate, Folic Acid, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, d-Biotin, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite, Cobalt Carbonate. Feeding Instructions · Cats may be fed according to the daily feeding amounts in the chart below. · Cats may also be fed cafeteria style by keeping a bowl of food available at all times. · Do not add vitamin or mineral supplements because Holistic Dry Cat Food is complete and balanced. · Please remember to always have fresh drinking water available for your cat at all times Daily Feeding Guide Weight g per Day g per Day 1 kg 20 g 6 kg 126 g 2 kg 42 g 7 kg 147 kg 3 kg 63 g 8 kg 168 g 4 kg 86 g 9 kg 190 g 5 kg 105 g 10 kg 210 g For Kittens: Add water to soften the food, feed all the product they will consume at intervals throughout the day, use the chart as a guide and feed the suggested amount two to three times per day. Nutritional Guarantee Holistic Dry Cat Food is formulated to meet the nutritional levels established by AAFCO Cat Food Nutrient Profile for all life stages of cats. KEY SELLING POINTS Complete and balanced nutrition for kittens and adult cats Natural flavour from chicken for a flavour that cats love Blend of fibre from cereal grains and beet pulp for a healthy digestive system Highly digestible chicken protein for good growth and maintenance of cats Designed to aid in the prevention and elimination of hairballs Yucca Schidigera to help control stool odours Contains natural antioxidants, no artificial preservatives Unique flavour and shape that cats love to eat

Thanks l will post both the formula's here this is the Dry dog formula LAMB & RICE HOLISTICGUARANTEED ANALYSIS Crude Protein……………22.00% (min) Phosphorus(P)………… 1.50% (max) Crude Fat……………… 12.00% (min) Calcium (Ca)…………… 1.45% (min) Crude Fibre……………… 4.50% (max) Moisture………………… 10.00% (max) Crude Ash …………….... 11.0% (max) INGREDIENTS Lamb Meal, Ground Brown Rice, Ground Oats, Rice Bran, Flaxseed, Chicken Fat (preserved with Mixed Tocopherols and Ascorbyl Palmitate), Brewers Dried Yeast, Lecithin, Natural Lamb Flavour, Dried Carrots, Dried Kelp, Choline Chloride, Calcium Ascorbate (source of Vitamin C), Zinc Amino Acid Chelate, Yucca Schidigera Extract, Dried Blueberries, Dandelion, Peppermint, Rosemary. Tomato Meal, Vitamin E Supplement, Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino Acid Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Biotin, Vitamin A Acetate, Calcium Pantothenate Niacin, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (B6), Thiamine Mononitrate (B1), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, DL-Methionine, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex (source of Vitamin K activity), Folic Acid, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Sodium Selenite, Calcium Iodate. FEEDING GUIDELINES DAILY FEEDING INSTRUCTIONS. Divide the recommended serving amount into two meals per day.. In addition to food, always make sure fresh water is available.. Vitamins, minerals and other supplements are not necessary.. When switching foods, adjustment should be gradual. If a loose stool persists beyond three days, consult with your local veterinarian. . Feeding amounts may vary by breed, activity level, temperament and climate.. Pregnant or nursing dogs may need food available at all times.. Double the recommended feeding for puppies up to six months of age. RECOMMENDED FEEDING PORTIONSSTANDARD MEASURING CUPS PER DAY* GRAMS PER DAY Weight Total Daily Amount Weight Total Daily Amount 12 lb or less up to ½ cup - 5kg 20 – 70 g 12 – 25 lb ½ - 1 cup 5 – 10kg 70 – 110g 25 – 50 lb 1 – 2 cups 10 – 15 kg 110 – 150 g 50 – 75 lb 2 – 3 cups 15 – 20 kg 150 – 200 g 75 – 100 lb 3 – 4 cups 20 – 25 kg 200 – 250 g Over 100lb, add 1 cup for each 25 lb of weight. 25 – 30 kg 250 – 300 g 30 – 35 kg 300 – 350 g Over 35 kg, add 110 g for each 10 kg of weight. Best before 18 months from manufacture date.

Just wondering if there is any cat people on the forum who could contact me, l have a 100% Aust made Holistic dog food and l have just added a Holistic cat food to my range and l am wanting some cat breeders to look at the formula and let me know what they think Thanks Sherel

Hi Charles forgot to ask if l can cross post this to other lists l am on ? Thanks Sherel

Hi l checked with Jo at dogs victoria, anyone can attend as long as they RSVP to Jo, they need to know how many are coming so they have a room big enough, Speaking from a recent experince l can highly recommend Charles and his staff and l will definitely not miss the lecture. Sherel

Hi All just hoping some might be able to give me some idea what my girl may have, She has 4 week old puppies (Fit and very healthy) yesterday l noticed a huge lump in her throat it goes more left to right than up and down and is nearly a handful each side and is very firm. its at the top of her throat just under jawline, she has a raised temperature, and has had some diahrea, she is still eating and drinking no problems at all, and is dribbling abit but not all the time more when she sleeps, l called the vet straight away had to see one of the other vets as mine is away for 2 weeks, the vet had a good feel and put two needles into it in different spots and got nothing really out of it except a very small amount (not even enough to go into the syringe) of just blood colour stuff. she put them onto seperate slides and looked at them under the microscope and said there was bacteria in there. So tells me its an Abscess, neither she nor l can find a mark or anything ??? She gave her an antibiotic injection and tablets to start tonight, she said normally they open them up and drain them my concern is if nothing went into the needle whats there to drain ???? l am just no comfortable with the vets diagnoses. Thinking about it last night and about a week ago her voice changed, she is not a barker but does more of a whineing talking voice and the tone of that has changed and now she is talking at all, any ideas would be great Thanks SHerel