Bex80

Try and start teaching the puppy to walk into a stack, with a big breed you don't want to have to move every leg. That way you don't have to fiddle too much with legs. I would hold the lead with my right hand and use the left to move the legs I need to. Once the legs are placed how you'd like them, I'd swap and hold the lead in my left hand on top of the head- like the first photo in this profile: http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/profile.asp?dog=35683 Then your right hand is free, so you can use food or a toy to keep your puppy interested, like this picture: http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/profile.asp?dog=37372 Once your puppy has the idea, you may not have to use the bait anymore. But while you are training it will give you the free hand to use food to make it an enjoyable experience. I hope this makes sense and good luck!

Thanks for doing the results love being able to scroll through rather than open each result individually. The Gordon Setter Results for bitches aren't correct on the website (i assume they'll be updated, there was an error with the challenge certificate yesterday) BCC & RUBOB was the bitch Ch Drumdaroch Insatiable (AI) who is owned by M & M Nicol who lives with and handled by our family. Was a fun, but long hot day!!

I thought the Labrador was gorgeous! The way he got around the group ring was impressive (haven't watched BIS yet). I'm not normally a labrador person but he really grabbed me.

English Setter Association of Victoria Mr R Ennis (USA) EST EXHIBIT Ch. Bridgewood Mile High (D) owned by Peter Harper, Darren Bowey and Bev Watt. RUNNER UP TO BIS AND BEST OPPOSITE SEX IN SHOW CH. Eireannmada Corpus Christi (B) owned by Greg Browne and Dee Jones. Reserve Dog CC Gr.Ch. Ballymore Double Impact (IMP NZ) owned by Tracie Edwards. Reserve Bitch CC & BEST INTERMEDIATE IN SHOW Bridgewood Any Time At All owned by Darren Bowey.

Best In Show ISCV 2012 Judge Mrs Sandra Novocin ("Santera" USA) Ch Martinridge Flirtatious (G Browne & B Martin) Runner Up In Show Grand Ch Pendoric Perfect Angel (Hearn & Baker) Dog Challenge Ch Brodruggan Rogue Trader Reserve Dog Challenge Grd Ch Tullane Tempranillo Full results on the ISCV facebook page

Gordon Setter Club Judge Mr R Ennis (USA)- entry 41 DCC & RUBIS- Sup Ch Clanset Hot Shot RDCC- Ch Goango Black Boss (Imp FIN) BCC & BIS- Ch Drumdaroch Insatiable (AI) RBCC- Gd Ch Deveron Dark Skies It was a fantastic trip down to Victoria for us, winning both challenges and even more exciting my 8 year old niece took Emma in for BIS and beat me- she does such a great job! This was the second year in a row that Emma has won BIS at this show. For full results go to the Gordon Setter Club of Victoria facebook page

Cavaliers can and do change for up to 2 years. I'd never keep a Setter puppy with an undershot mouth, they don't ever get better. However we had a Cav bitch that was fine as a baby and then went undershot and it didn't come good until about 18 months. We didn't show our Cav until her mouth righted itself, we had other dogs to show so we left her at home until it came good.

I think you'll find that the problems at Bulla were from entries being sent snail mail that didn't arrive.