Cody

John certainly won't be punished. He's a much loved croc and it's generally accepted that if you hope in an enclosure with a dangerous animal you stand a chance of getting hurt. I always said I was happy to assist in those shows and I'd be OK doing a show with venomous snakes but I drew the line at presented the croc show.

Information from the inside word is that he has gone for surgery but it's still just a stitches job, it's surgery to put things together nicely as I understand it, functionality is still good. :) (Plus clean things out I imagine, croc have some nasty germs in their mouths)

Like I mentioned earlier, they stated on their facebook page yesterday that he was having surgery today. So it's public knowledge.

I'm reading the bolded comment as "it's still just a stitches job HOWEVER it's surgery to put things back together nicely etc., The 'however' is my word meaning the surgery is not as straight forward as just needing stitches. I may be way off track but that's what I took kelpiecuddles comments to mean.

Maybe kelpiecuddles will come back to clarify.

First, OP said they talked to a family friend who said it was just stitches, but the zoo's statement clearly said surgery. Then OP says inside information is surgery. It's not inside information if it's public knowledge.

John certainly won't be punished. He's a much loved croc and it's generally accepted that if you hope in an enclosure with a dangerous animal you stand a chance of getting hurt. I always said I was happy to assist in those shows and I'd be OK doing a show with venomous snakes but I drew the line at presented the croc show.

Information from the inside word is that he has gone for surgery but it's still just a stitches job, it's surgery to put things together nicely as I understand it, functionality is still good. :) (Plus clean things out I imagine, croc have some nasty germs in their mouths)

Like I mentioned earlier, they stated on their facebook page yesterday that he was having surgery today. So it's public knowledge.

Crocs don't think the same way dogs do. They won't snap at something unless they think it is actually food and it's within grabbing distance. We could demonstrate this by moving a stick around near their face or throwing food around above their heads and they won't even attempt to grab it but if you bounce that bit of food in the direction of their mouth, snap, it's gone. If they try for something once and fail chances are they won't try again for a long while as they will deem it to be a waste of precious energy for no gain, as such they will always go for the easy prey item that they can grab with the least expenditure of energy. In that moment Trent was easy meat(which is what they call it in the show there) and the croc took his opportunity. I've had the smaller female have a shot at me and even she was pretty scary and there was a fence between us(although if I hadn't moved from my position she would have grabbed my arm), Johns got around a meter of length on her. I really feel for Trent, it would have been a terrifying experience.

The worrying thing about this is that croc learn from experiences like this and it makes it more likely to try again next time so they'll have to tread carefully the next few weeks.

ETA: I have spoken to a family friend of his who tells me it's looking like no serious damage, just some stitches, all fingers good and working by the looks.

They stated on their facebook page he's going for surgery today.

Sounds like the behaviourist has been spending too much time watching Cesar Millan.

Just in case anyone is interested in the truth of this matter & not the hysteria relayed in the media:

It was proven in court at no time did either of the dogs attack or make any skin contact with the elderly woman.

Both dogs were accompanied by their owner, in their own front garden when the elderly couple walked past the end of the driveway at the top of the hill, one of the dogs barked, once & was reprimanded by the owner & both dogs immediately sat by the front door of the house.

The path at the end of the driveway was in a chronic state of disrepair & very uneven, the woman lost her footing & fell on to the road where she sustained her injuries, laceration to the head from impact on the road & a broken finger from putting her hand out when she fell.

The owner administered first aid until the ambulance arrived.

The legal technicalities of a dog attack in WA states that even a dog muzzled & on a leash that makes a person feel uncomfortable can be reported & seized whilst an investigation ensues.

In response to the comment about BYB: Let me assure you that these two dogs were most definitely not a result of BYB's, they were a mother & her pup from a very loving family. As far as them being unregistered: both dogs were in fact registered previously in the country town the owners came from, this had expired when they moved from the country, with moving to a new home & both starting new jobs, it was purely an oversight.

The owners are a young career driven couple that were unaware of the Koongamia area when they moved from the country.

The media have been contacted by the legal team representing the owners & were given the "legal" truth of the incident, three media outlets offered an apology but the retraction will never make front page of the West or the leading story on the nightly news.

Whilst I understand the previous comments are based on emotional responses to ill-informed media reports, please be aware that an elderly woman was very badly hurt & the owners have taken full responsibility for the fact that the mere presence of their dogs & one barking caused the woman's injuries & have not shirked their legal consequences.

Perhaps the lesson here is: although it is human nature to form an emotional reaction to a news story, we need to remember that the media have no responsibility to investigate the full facts prior to publication.

Do you have a link to the source of this information?

Where do you live?

And being condescending to a new member is a-ok? Got it.

Perhaps you should refrain from posting considering you seem to be in a bad mood and are not making sense.

I'm in a great mood. Thanks for your concern, though. :)

Hasn't this topic been done to death already?

Given you've only been a member here since the start of the year you may want to be a bit more supportive of topics that you have seen before, you'll see it alot more in the future, if they irritate you just don't click into them.

Who died and made you god?

I don't believe anybody died and made anyone God. Sas was making a valid point. No such thing as a topic being done to death when there are new members joining up all the time and new input becomes available. On the other hand, narky and useless comments such as yours need to stop being done to death.

And being condescending to a new member is a-ok? Got it.

Hasn't this topic been done to death already?

Given you've only been a member here since the start of the year you may want to be a bit more supportive of topics that you have seen before, you'll see it alot more in the future, if they irritate you just don't click into them.

Who died and made you god?

Joke's on them, huh?

Impatiens, I thought the beach pic was a 1940s photo for a second. Great photo! :)

I wish I could find the other article. But that's not what really happened according to onlookers....

Elephants are my favourite animal and reading Lawrence Anthony's books has made me appreciate them more. So this is very upsetting for me.

And that is why Huskies rule.

I was looking after my friends dogs a few years ago and one of them was acting strange and kept scooting along the floor. She had a stick in her bum about 30cm long. The look she gave me when I pulled it out was pure relief/I love you. :laugh:

I have no advice, but Huskies are close to my heart and I am truly, truly so sad that you lost your beloved baby.

He loves going for walks ! :)

Wow. He has other facial expressions. :laugh:

Yes DA... Exactly ! I truly believe that dog could of taken that boys life. He wasn't stuffing about. He meant business.

Yep, I'm pretty sure if that dog wasn't stopped so quickly the child could have died from injuries/blood loss.

Eye-rollingly I saw a comment on line from someone that said

'That dog looks like a Rhodesian Ridgeback, they were bred to hunt lions in Africa. There is no place for these dogs in our society!!'.

Really?!

Well, considering the dog is a Lab x Chow, I''m pretty sure neither of those two breeds were bred for hunting in Africa.

What a amazingly brave kitty I saw this on the news last night & couldn't believe my eye's at fist.

I have not doubt that that cat saved that little boy's life. That dog really meant business & only 8 months old they say. Extremely scary aggression in one so young.

Loved the after video with the very lucky boy sitting on the lounge with his "hero" cat sitting beside him purring his head off. Just beautiful....

I felt uneasy watching the kid pull on the cats leg.

Geez I better watch that again then as i didn't see any leg pulling. Ouch !!!

Just a snippet of the actual video I saw which I can't find now.

What a amazingly brave kitty I saw this on the news last night & couldn't believe my eye's at fist.

I have not doubt that that cat saved that little boy's life. That dog really meant business & only 8 months old they say. Extremely scary aggression in one so young.

Loved the after video with the very lucky boy sitting on the lounge with his "hero" cat sitting beside him purring his head off. Just beautiful....

I felt uneasy watching the kid pull on the cats leg.

Is someone willing to explain why the RSPCA is getting such a bad rap (or so it seems through social media). I've had very little to do with them and was just wondering why it seems so many people have issues.

If there is another thread that has well and truly covered this I more then happy to follow a link.

If you do a search here for rspca, many threads will show up.

Thanks Cody - I feel somewhat stupid for not thinking of that myself.

Hehe. That's ok! :)

Is someone willing to explain why the RSPCA is getting such a bad rap (or so it seems through social media). I've had very little to do with them and was just wondering why it seems so many people have issues.

If there is another thread that has well and truly covered this I more then happy to follow a link.

If you do a search here for rspca, many threads will show up.

I wouldn't donate to the rspca or any religious based charity. But if I was asked to donate to any other animal charity, I would.

Dr. Harry in the early days was a well respected and fondly regarded personality. Sadly he is now an embarrassing out of date celebrity vet who's a little beyond it and has lost the plot.

IMO he sold out to commercialism many years ago. I agree with Leah82 that he is probably being paid for his opinions and is in need of the money.

The sad part is that those who are not dog knowledgeable may believe his ridiculous, inaccurate statements.

Yep agree with everything here.

I think his woollen cap and gotten wet too many times and it's strangling his brain :laugh:

Even though it is a terrible idea, banging saucepan lids is much less cruel than, say, poisoning neighbourhood dogs.