Maddy

Ohh I don't know Cordelia? I think there is enough documentation to prove the existance of God and souls in animals.

Erm.. there is?

I guess that depends very much on what you consider to be evidence and what exactly your beliefs are. Personally, I don't believe anything has a soul but that doesn't mean things can't be valued still for what they do have. You don't have to believe in the christian god (or any god, really) to treat animals with the same respect you'd show your fellow man.

Of course, if you mean "soul" in the non-religious sense (ie, a distinct personality, the ability to feel and understand what happens around it, etc), almost every type of animal could be said to have a soul.

If you believe that organic is healthier/better for the environment/whatever, I guess it's easier to justify the added expense.

Personally, I wouldn't pay extra for organic dogfood nor do I eat organic, myself.

Hi,if you are a responsible dog owner, your dog will be on lead except in off lead areas, it doesn't matter where you live.

On private property? On a lead no longer than a metre? That's not very long...

It was clarified that there was no reference to private property, no?

Either way, not a huge deal. One metre isn't especially long* but it's hardly the sort of draconian dog laws they have to deal with in many places in Queensland.

*I usually walk my dog on a leash that's one metre long and it doesn't cause us any bother. The shorter length makes it easier to reel him in if we're approaching other people (or dogs)- not everyone appreciates dog nose in their crotch as they walk past

Edited to correct typo

From the mini Aussie bulldog site..

For those interested please note there is absolutely no Staffordshire Bull Terrier in these dogs and minimal British Bulldog. By starting with healthy Australian Bulldogs *snip*

From the Aussie Bulldog site..

In forming the breed a mixture of English Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Bullmastiff, Boxer and British Bulldog were used

The bolding and rofls are my own

Never seen it although just from glancing quickly through it, I'm not especially keen on the site- the option to meet with other people with undesexed dogs of a particular gender? Maybe it's just me but that sounds like a cross between RSVP.com and the Petlink "wanted" section

Kiff and Sally have tags from here.

From memory, each tag lists their name and our home phone number on the front and on the rear, "microchipped" and my partner's mobile phone number.

The note about them being microchipped serves two purposes- if they're ever picked up as strays (as unlikely as that is) and they have their collars on, they can be traced back to us in two different ways (the chip contains far more details than we could've fit on a tag) and if someone was ever tempted to steal them, hopefully the fact that they're microchipped would be a little bit of a deterrent (they're both desexed anyway so I can't see how they'd be of any value to anyone else but.. )

Personally, I believe education of the potential owner is far more important than the ages of children concerned. Older children can still be bitten by incorrectly handled dogs.

No offense intended to the OP but if I were you, I'd put off getting a dog until you've put in the time to educate yourself regarding the breed chosen. Once you actually know what the breed is called (and a bit more about usual temperament and behaviour), maybe then you could consider getting one

How rude, who cares about the name its the home that matters.

Im sure the lab will get a lot more love and attention than many large scale breeders and animal collectors I know. Our rescue has placed a WGSD 8 month old pup in to a home with six kids including toddlers. We have a waiting list of over 15 people just in Melbourne, and our rehoming condition with this pup was that he must go to a home with kids.

They are first time GSD owners, and this dog is thriving. A good breeder and rescue will educate, prepare and support their buyers so there is no confusion as to what they are getting and also be available to support their buyers during 'difficult' situations.

Thinking a home is not worthy of getting a pup due to describing a colour of a coat is BS. Most of the average dog owners I know would call a yellow lab gold. Who cares?

Squid, she asked for opinions, I gave mine. That's the point of posting on a forum to ask for opinions, is it not?

If you have a problem with my opinion, that's fine but at least have the courtesy to respond politely and concisely with your rebuttal, rather than just calling me rude (which is a little bit hypocritical, given your reply ).

I happen to disagree with your opinion but you'll note I refrained from insulting you or your opinion.

Personally, I believe education of the potential owner is far more important than the ages of children concerned. Older children can still be bitten by incorrectly handled dogs.

No offense intended to the OP but if I were you, I'd put off getting a dog until you've put in the time to educate yourself regarding the breed chosen. Once you actually know what the breed is called (and a bit more about usual temperament and behaviour), maybe then you could consider getting one

I don't care how sick she was, that's disgusting.

So mental illness now makes someone unworthy of understanding or perhaps even a little bit of compassion?

It's great to see that all the money being spent on educating the public about mental health issues is having such a profound effect

That is just sad. That woman must have had a pretty serious mental health issue to behave like that. It's a tragedy that her children and pets suffered because she couldn't get help.

All she needed to do was to pick up a phone. Change "couldn't" to "wouldn't"

Before jumping in to vilify people, I think it's only fair to at least take the time to really understand what has happened.

Addiction related to gaming is no different from any other addiction- if this woman was suffering from a more familiar condition (drug addiction, compulsive hoarding, etc) I'm sure people wouldn't be jumping in and assuming that she was completely aware and in control of her situation (and most importantly, I don't think people would be blaming her in quite the same way).

I know someone who's addicted to WoW and while some people don't (or can't) believe it's a serious issue, I've watched someone almost literally stop existing in the real world; neglecting his home until it was almost falling down around his ears, neglecting his job until his employment there was terminated, neglecting his personal relationships until he had no one to help or support him and neglecting his own health until he was almost dead.

This story is terrible but hopefully it will highlight exactly how widespread the problem is- it's no longer just Koreans dying after 100+ hour WoW benders in internet cafes.

<3 Troy

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Unimpressed as always. Thank Dog we have the Tassie Dogs Home.

This.

On their far smaller budget, they're doing amazing work. It's a pity the LCC area ended up with the RSPCA operating the area pound, the Dogs' Home of Tas seem to do a far better job of returning or rehoming animals.

This is a good one:

Posted by Rubichi (Baxter, Vic. (near frankston)) on 4-Aug-10 06:15 PM AEST

To reply to this advertisement email [email protected]

I have two dogs needing new homes.

Zeus is a 3yr old shepherd from working lines, fully imported. Has full papers and is a proven breeder. Has obedience training and toilet training. Good with kids, though i'd like to see him go to a house that will either use him for guarding the property with no small animals or to a farm.

Lana is meant to be a Dutch shepherd though she doesn't look the part, her mum is a full dutch but i dont' think her dad was a mal. She's just over a yr old and very laid back and sooky. She will bark at noise and strangers but doesn't have back up to it. She'd suit an active family with no other animals.

Make me an offer on either or both, need to rehome asap. Please note both these dogs have VERY high prey drive, if you can't control them it can turn into aggression.

Also have pups from them, they're not 5wks old yet, will be ready to go after 14th aug. Pups are $500 each, most are brindle.

Email for pics, no time wasters. Only email if you are trully intrested.

Kristina; your selling off dogs with potential agression issues.

You're already bred the bitch who is only just a year old and they are not effectivly controlled.

Congratulations; you're one of the worst breeders I know.

I assume she means that if you can't control the dogs around potential prey items, they could become aggressive towards those prey items. Which is kind of..

Prey drive is already an urge to chase/kill things and to imply otherwise is a little dishonest.

On the off-chance she means that inability to control the dogs may result in aggression directed towards the handler.. if she has sold puppies of this sort to a pet shop, there's really no excusing that.

And for the word about bad words Kristina called us all "morons"

And if you look at my post I said "ARe you the idiot who bred the litter"

I Didn't directly call her an idiot

It wasn't just aimed at you, Shell. If Kristina feels the need to get abusive, it's likey she'll get a visit from the Warning Fairy, herself. Same applies for everyone else.

As far as the issue at hands goes..

I'll admit to being a little curious as to why Kristina hasn't thrown this alleged other breeder under the bus.

I know if I were a registered breeder, clearing my own name would rate a little higher in my priorities than protecting a BYB (or whoever it was).

That's pure speculation, Nekhbet.

I could say that Kristina also enjoys kicking orphans and pushing old people into traffic but that wouldn't make it true. Stick to facts,

no its not - I have it in black and white in front of me. Along with other interesting things from Kristina. I dont make things up.

If you have evidence that Kristina is selling more puppies to pet shops or breeding for this purpose, feel free to post it. If not, I'm afraid I'm going to have assume it is speculation and ignore it

Glad to see at least one person in here with a brain

I just prefer to see evidence before going to all the effort of unpacking my torch and pickfork. It's another symptom of my laziness, really.

On a slightly related note.. The people tossing around the words like "idiot" and what-have-you might want to just bear in mind the forum rule about not attacking other members. Just sayin'

i agree with this HA but we arent going to get the info here methinks

Three sides to every story and all that

Edited to add..

Wow.. 94 reading this. It's a pity it's not really a constructive thread.

That's pure speculation, Nekhbet.

I could say that Kristina also enjoys kicking orphans and pushing old people into traffic but that wouldn't make it true. Stick to facts,

no its not - I have it in black and white in front of me. Along with other interesting things from Kristina. I dont make things up.

If you have evidence that Kristina is selling more puppies to pet shops or breeding for this purpose, feel free to post it. If not, I'm afraid I'm going to have assume it is speculation and ignore it

Glad to see at least one person in here with a brain

I just prefer to see evidence before going to all the effort of unpacking my torch and pickfork. It's another symptom of my laziness, really.

On a slightly related note.. The people tossing around the words like "idiot" and what-have-you might want to just bear in mind the forum rule about not attacking other members. Just sayin'

It has been mentioned many times that the litter was accidental.

uh huh. Along with the other litter they plan to take to the pet stores?

That's pure speculation, Nekhbet.

I could say that Kristina also enjoys kicking orphans and pushing old people into traffic but that wouldn't make it true. Stick to facts, otherwise Troy is going to pull the plug on this thread too.

Edited to add..

Snarkiness?? What's with that?

It's an automatic reaction to percieved drama llama'ing. The percieved llama may not have had dramatic intentions, hence the post got edited.

Where was it mentioned MANY times? Is there other threads?

I wouldn't mind being a llama right now actually

There was a 11 page (well.. it was 11 pages before I got bored with reading it and went to have a nanna nap) thread on this.. either yesterday or the day before.

The original mention of the litter being accidental is still in whichever breed thread.

Either way.. there seem to be claims to a different effect now anyway so.. who knows

That's pure speculation, Nekhbet.

I could say that Kristina also enjoys kicking orphans and pushing old people into traffic but that wouldn't make it true. Stick to facts,

no its not - I have it in black and white in front of me. Along with other interesting things from Kristina. I dont make things up.

If you have evidence that Kristina is selling more puppies to pet shops or breeding for this purpose, feel free to post it. If not, I'm afraid I'm going to have assume it is speculation and ignore it

It has been mentioned many times that the litter was accidental.

uh huh. Along with the other litter they plan to take to the pet stores?

That's pure speculation, Nekhbet.

I could say that Kristina also enjoys kicking orphans and pushing old people into traffic but that wouldn't make it true. Stick to facts, otherwise Troy is going to pull the plug on this thread too.

Edited to add..

Snarkiness?? What's with that?

It's an automatic reaction to percieved drama llama'ing. The percieved llama may not have had dramatic intentions, hence the post got edited.

I am also curious why you bred this litter? For what intention???? I see no need!!

It has been mentioned many times that the litter was accidental.

Edited to remove excessive snarkiness.

Kristina are u actually the idiot who bred those pups????? I am SICK AND TIRED of people breeding for profit, theres no other reason people would breed such a careless cross breed and then throw em in Pets Paradise

While I agree with the sentiment*, comments like this will very likely get the thread deleted.

Edited to add..

* In regards to breeding for profit. As far as who bred these pups or the motivations for the breeding, that's anyone's guess, really.

saying they're a dangerous breed will only harm the breed not help it.

And.. crossing the breed with a working line GSD and then selling them to a pet shop to be on-sold to uneducated consumers is helping the breed?

One moment.. let me just find my surprised face...

(it really needs an Orly owl but.. meh)

Perhaps if the RSPCA focused more on actually addressing welfare issues and less time worrying about making more money, they wouldn't have these embarassing little squabbles coming up so often

Are you a member of Dogzonline? If so, have you checked the members home page to see whether this person's name appears in the list of people suspected of fraudulent activity?

Yes poodlemum have been a member for a few years now ;) I did not even know there was such a list I very rarely go to the home page lol.

Ok after reading some of the responses , I started to feel bad, thinking there was some poor person who would really love a puppy but did not speak good english,So I went back through my deleted emails and found the suspect email and replied.

My response - Hi ....... There are still puppies left in this litter, they are a working breed of dog and not suitable for everyone, If you are interested in purchasing one please call me and tell me a bit more about yourself and what you are expecting out of a puppy, it may be that my puppies are not suitable for your lifestyle.... thanking you Sheree

The reply I got

Thank you very much for the response. I will be happy to buy them.Note that you will not be responsible for shipping and handling. Myshipping company will come to your location for pick up. Kindlyprovide me your name and full address so i can forward it to theshipping company to calculate the cost of pick up for me. Do get backto me as soon as possible.

needless to say it went straight back into the delete bin.

Heh.. I won't say it

(So very, very tempting though)

Is there a registered Dally breeder near Launceston? Does the dog have a registered name and papers? I would personally not call it rescue because it's really not, but it could be considered a good deed for the puppy.

We bought our house from a registered dally breeder (we're in Launceston) and as far as I know, they moved somewhere just out of Launceston so it's possible it's the same woman.

I probably have her contact details somewhere, if SpottyChick wants/needs them.