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  1. Snake aversion training

    It probably depends an awful lot on the climate of your area, the available food sources, the abundance of predators, the species that inhabit your area, and so on and so forth. I live on the outer edge of an outer suburb that backs onto bush that basically stretches all the way to the east coast of Tasmania. There are plenty of small streams and rivers to attract frogs and other small animals that a snake might eat. The climate is temperate (so snakes may go into torpor, depending on how cold the winter is), all three Tasmanian species can be found, but there are abundant birds of prey and large gulls (brown falcon, pacific gulls and kelp gulls, are the most frequent I see). I've lived in the same house for the last 12 years and have never seen a single snake in our yard. Or at the lake we occasionally visit. Or down near the river. Nada. Maybe exceptionally good luck, maybe local predators apply enough pressure that the joe blake populations never get high enough to increase the odds of us seeing any. Pers's situation is different. And yours will likely be different from both of ours. It's a matter of assessing your personal risk and managing from there. Personally, given my dogs are sighthounds and prefer to spend their days lolling on the couch in my absence anyway, I believe it's safer for them to be inside. Snakes are not our concern so much, but if my dogs are safely stowed in my house, I know there's no chance of a gate being "accidentally" opened or a straying dog getting into my yard, or my dogs chasing down and scoring themselves a neighbour's cat or inclement weather causing them discomfort or even harm. In 12 years of keeping my dogs inside, the following accidents/catastrophes have happened: a few wee stains on the carpet. The millions of inside hours clocked up by unattended pets, wherein absolutely nothing of note happens, do not make interesting news stories
  2. Greyhounds

    Possibly Ruthless? https://www.ruthlessleather.com/product-category/dogs/sighthound-collars/
  3. Snake aversion training

    This assumes the dog doesn't associate the shock collar with the unpleasant stimuli, rather than the snake. And if the dog ever tests that out, in a real life situation, they'll quickly discover that attacking snakes does not make their neck hurt. Yes, it's possible to just have the dog wear the shock collar for several weeks beforehand to lessen the risk of the dog making the correct association, but as I've pointed out, also very possible for the dog to push boundaries and discover those painful boundaries are gone. In my opinion, it's giving owners a false sense of security. Personally, I would never recommend it to the people who adopt from me- I'd suggest working on the best recall possible (if they insist on offleash walks, which I also wouldn't recommend for greys) and close supervision in areas where snakes might be. It's not a quick or easy solution but it's kinder to the dog and undoubtedly safer.
  4. Snake aversion training

    That's sad, but it doesn't change the fact that aversion training may do more harm than good. It's no different to the people who claim they can "re-train" greyhounds not to chase- the dog will still do exactly what its nature compels it to do, it'll now just be done outside of human oversight. And as I mentioned above, that's far more dangerous, especially in states with multiple snake species where identification for antivenin may be necessary. If your dog is sneaking off to chase snakes, you may not even know it's happened, until it's already too late for treatment. If snakes concern you that much, keep your dogs inside when you aren't home. That way, they're safe from snakes, safe from wandering dogs or any other predator, and as an added bonus, safe from people.
  5. Snake aversion training

    It's pretty common down here, and we only have three species of snake, all of which are treated with the same antivenin. The trouble, as Selkie mentions, is that many use just aversive techniques and you're more likely to end up with a dog who will sneakily go after snakes, which is potentially much more dangerous.
  6. Vet warns of Greyhound Adoption Risk

    You do realise that they continue to exist when they aren't on the track? And that they have to be handled, trained, moved around, and accept very close contact from strangers, on a regular basis? Until the invention of the mechanical lure, they were coursing and hunting dogs, and lived beside people, just like any other breed of dog. In terms of temperament, in my experience (from actually rescuing them), they are very stable, gentle dogs who thrive on human company. They bond closely with their people but are still polite and friendly with strangers. As I've said before, as long as owners understand sighthound prey drive, greyhounds make amazing pets. If you prefer retrievers, good for you- other people appreciate different types of temperaments. As for whomever you were referring to with the wastage comment.. it's really not that simple. The industry has many problems, and they absolutely need to be addressed. But equally, if the sport goes, the breed goes with it. Over three hundred years of recorded pedigrees, foundations that were built on fitness rather than looks, all the things that breeding for function brought to the breed, will be lost forever. And as much as I dislike the industry as it stands, I also don't want to see a breed that I love, simply cease to be. There could be a sensible middle ground but as long as people refuse to hear the side and doggedly cling to either extreme, it won't happen.
  7. Vet warns of Greyhound Adoption Risk

    There's a Doler on here who had a boy with rather bad corns (Benny the greyhound) but I forget what her Dol name is. If his thread is still around, in rescue section, you should be able to find her name. I've only ever seen fairly minor ones, and they were good with just softening with vaseline on a regular basis. As my vet said (and I'm sure most others would), there's no point surgically removing them because they only come back. That said, if they're bad enough to cause lameness, something has to be done. Whether that's removal under GA, hulling or filing them with a dremel ()
  8. Vet warns of Greyhound Adoption Risk

    Handling ears for any reason.. something I dread. Ear branding of puppies while they're wide awake, and during a critical socialisation period, is setting the dog up for issues. One of my greys would SCREECH if you touched his ear leathers, even if you were just gently touching. I was concerned enough to take him to our vet (who also got screeched at ) and his ears were clean, healthy and very normal. Since him, I've had many others who weren't keen on having their ears touched, yet NEVER seen that issue in unbranded greys (which I've had several of).
  9. Greyhounds

    If you want something decent, Etsy is probably the best place to look. Although.. I've bought some nice leather greyhound collars before through Ebay, there were a couple of UK sellers who did really interesting ones. One was collars embossed with pictures of birds or animals.. and for the life of me, can't find that seller now. The other was leather collars with a silver greyhound head.. thing*. Personally though.. I wouldn't walk a grey on a flat leather collar. They're great for special occasions but even if you have it done up absurdly tight, your grey might still be able to back out of it. Martingale collars are a safer option. Or skip the collar entirely and go with a Webmaster harness, and that way, you can put a pretty decorative/tag collar on them, and it doesn't need to be especially strong. We switched to the Webmasters a few years ago and they're great, absolutely escape-proof, in my experience. They also have a handle on the back, which is useful for hanging onto a grey if a cat shoots past and greyhound decides it's dinner time :| *Like this thing, except on a plain black collar. Can't seem to find the seller for that, either. I'm super helpful
  10. Vet warns of Greyhound Adoption Risk

    Maybe pet breeders down here are worse but it all looks comparable to me. There was stuff I don't agree with- such as the culling out of very young pups with health issues or from the odd oopsy litter, even though they could have been good pets- but the fact is, euthanising unfit/unsuitable puppies is not exactly unknown in the show world either (white boxers come to mind). From what I saw, living conditions were much of a muchness (comparable, if not better than the conditions at the breeder we purchased our last pet dog from), socialisation as a whole was definitely lacking but pups were at least kept together, so social skills with other large dogs are generally great. Most breeders that I know of down here, feed out a raw puppy mince, no one cuts off dew claws off puppies (which some registered breeders do themselves, even those toes attached by bone) and overall.. it's average care. It's certainly not ideal (very far from it, especially with regards to socialisation) but compared to the conditions you see companion bred puppies living in down here, it's no worse.
  11. interesting article

    What an absurd question. Did you read and understand what I wrote? I try to be patient with you, asal, but christ, you make it hard.
  12. Vet warns of Greyhound Adoption Risk

    I can't see what major issues there would be with rearing, it's no better or worse than how many pet breeders (registered or otherwise) raise dogs.
  13. interesting article

    Ah, the old "People these days, no respect, etc., etc., etc." These days, it's socially unacceptable to spit on someone, to beat them within an inch of their life, to murder them because they've annoyed you, to use certain language, to toilet in front of other people, to say racist/sexist things, to break any one of the tens of thousands of unspoken social rules. Being a human is literally the hardest it's ever been. And the slightest infraction can become viral news in a matter of minutes. People are not "worse" now than they were at any point in time. It's a fallacy that gets trotted out to justify any number of (ironically) shitty things, such as capital punishment or beating children. Hitting a child who bullies other children will not cure that child of the problem. We know better than that now. We understand that behaviour must serve the individual some purpose, and that if we discover this purpose, we can resolve the problem, without more violence. Hitting someone does not cure them of anything. Period. Same applied to animals. Clearly, you're okay with the idea of corporal punishment and as I said, you're welcome to your views. However, I absolutely disagree with you and to be honest, I find your views to be outdated and unscientific. Old ways are not necessarily better ways. And in the case of behaviour modification, definitely not the better way. Having said that, if you have studies that confirm the "natural" way is better, please feel free to link them, I'd be very interested to read any sort of evidence for your claims.
  14. Training a greyhound not to chase

    In Australia, the VAST majority of pet greyhounds come from the racing industry. And from what I've seen, there is a difference in drive between the two groups. One group is bred to look a certain way, the other is bred to chase through a brick wall. You select for drive, you get more drive. Plenty of ex racing dogs make great pets, but some have prey drive so high that an "average" home is unlikely to be suitable, unless the new owners are willing to do a lot of learning, very quickly. As for the difference between chasing and hunting.. They were bred to chase down and kill animals, for hunting purposes. They're not a retriever or a pointer or a tracker- they chase down the prey and they kill it. Or attempt to turn it, which at high speeds, could result in death anyway. And that's not an attack on the breed, I absolutely love greys and have owned ex racers for over a decade, but I see no need to pretend that their prey drive is not high. I have seen that prey drive in action and it is not something to be downplayed. Your experience seems to be in showbred dogs and I can guarantee you, they're not the same thing. I don't think you can truly appreciate the levels of drive involved until you've been on the other end of the leash to a higher drive greyhound. The intensity of that drive can be confronting. And the consequences for underestimating it could be devastating.
  15. interesting article

    It's that general brand of crap. CM used to do a lot of it for anxious/fearful dogs and it was horrible to watch. I can still remember one in particular, a Great Dane who was scared of slippery floors, and he just dragged this dog down a long hallway and everything about that dog's demeanour was terrible fear. Right up until the dog shut down, anyway. Its eyes were fixed, its posture/gait were stiff/sluggish and it just went wherever he dragged it. And CM proclaimed it a great success. Distressing to watch and even more so, to know that people would copy his methods and cause harm to their own pets I'm quite.. uncomfortable around fish (I won't say scared, but the thought of touching one makes me want to panic-vomit up my intestines) and if someone forced me to put my hand in a fish tank- as a shitty, god-awful teacher did to me a few years back- it sure as hell won't help my anxiety around fish. And after being made to do something I clearly communicated that I didn't want to do, I was left with zero respect or trust for that teacher. Negative outcomes for everyone. And forcing dogs to confront things they aren't comfortable with, same thing. I want my dogs to trust me- to trust that I won't ever drop them in the deep end, and to trust that I'll listen when they communicate with me. I managed to teach a greyhound to get into the bath by himself (which was a pretty big deal for him) and that was just trust. He trusted that I'd abide by certain rules (like not getting his ears or face wet, or not using cool or cold water) and once we'd established that trust, life became so much easier. Trust is a huge part of bonding, and you can't form trust if you're hurting or scaring someone. As for an apocalypse.. my dogs would be doomed. I think they'd immediately die of horror once they discovered that chickens do not naturally come in a "kiev" variety
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