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My dogs have acupuncture and depending on the treatment the electrodes are sometimes attached. My dog walks in stiffly and slowly. She almost prances out!

I had acupuncture at Raffles Hospital in Singapore - they have a Traditional Chinese Medicine centre - and they use the needles with the electrodes attached in some places and just needles in others. All I know is that I went there with my back so bad that I kept getting 'stuck' if I moved even slightly the wrong way. One treatment and I was improved, three more treatments and the pain was gone!

I asked about the electrodes at Raffles. THe doctor told me that prior to using electrodes the practitioner would have sat there twiddling the needles to get the same effect!

Sticking to the pro plan for now, but I got a bag of Canidae to trial inside her toys. Samples of black hawk, eagle pack, Nutro, nutrience and holistic select on the way.

My Borders are all on Nutro, and are thriving on it - we are more than happy with it. It's the best dry food we've used.

The dogs also get meat, chicken carcasses, veggies, sardines, eggs, suitable leftovers.

We avoid dry foods that have 'meal' in them, and in the hotter months we avoid lamb / mutton as the dogs get hotspots when they eat it.

Sticking to the pro plan for now, but I got a bag of Canidae to trial inside her toys. Samples of black hawk, eagle pack, Nutro, nutrience and holistic select on the way.

My Borders are all on Nutro, and are thriving on it - we are more than happy with it. It's the best dry food we've used.

The dogs also get meat, chicken carcasses, veggies, sardines, eggs, suitable leftovers.

We avoid dry foods that have 'meal' in them, and in the hotter months we avoid lamb / mutton as the dogs get hotspots when they eat it.

My sister's husband is keen to get a dog for the family - my sister still needs a little convincing (at least with the timing :laugh: ). I agreed to help them if/when they decide to get one. He is a fairly loud and boisterous personality and they have 3 kids between the ages of 1 and 4 1/2 (who are also quite boisterous! More than my kids!).

As a breeder, I NEVER sell to a home where the mum is not keen! Golden rule for me, and have even said that to my kids' friends' mums when they were being pressured by their OH or the kids.

It's just too big an ask of someone who is probable feeling like she already has her hands more than full. With kids that age, I think it is unfair for her to be pressured this way.

JMHO

Lots of councils give away rolls of poo bags for free - always worth checking!

What is TNS?

Trapped Neutrophil Syndrome

Neutrophils are made in the bone marrow and released into the blood stream to fight infections.

In TNS affected pups the neutrophils aren't released into the blood stream, so the pups have weakened immune systems.

Sometimes the pups look 'ratty', and sometimes they fail to thrive. Sometimes they seem normal until the first or second vaccination.

There is no cure.

Luckily, thanks to the amazing research and dedication of the late Dr Alan Wilton, we have a DNA test, so we can know the status of breeding stock and avoid breeding two carriers together.

I would've smiled too :)

My own dogs have been known to lick our plates after meals and I occasionally give them food off a fork or spoon. This is their house and if people find it so offensive then they are free to leave. I am also guilty of sharing the odd ice block too :)

A dear friend of mine once told me about a dinner guest her OH had brought to their home.

She had two dogs, and after dinner she always let the dogs lick the plates before she put them in the dishwasher.

This dinner guest was not a dog person, and when he saw the dogs licking the plates he was shocked.

My friend noticed his attitude, waited until the dogs had licked the plates clean, held the plates up to the light and said, 'hmm, yep, that's sparkling clean now, good job boys.'

Then she put the plate back in the cupboard! The dinner guest nearly fainted, until the OH gave it away by laughing. :laugh:

Seriously, we have come a long way here and it seems that in NSW dogs will soon be permitted on lead at all outside eateries.

I'd hate to see it go backwards because non doggy people get offended by seeing people feeding their dogs from cutlery that is meant for human use.

Hope he's back to normal very soon.

What kind of dog is yours temperamentfirst? If it's not one of the usual " big nasty dog" breeds the mother may not have cared at all because everyone knows only those nasty bully, rotty, dobermann ect bite. (rolls eyes)

He's a red Border Collie, and does have a very gentle smiley face.

Hi everyone, one of my babies has come back to me on the weekend. She is 12 mths old and has spay incontinence and has been on Propalin for 6 + months . General census when I googled this stuff is quite negative. Her previous vet changed her to Incurin 3 days ago so we are yet to see any change. I am also weaning her off the propalin.

I have a copy of her patient record for last 6 mths so will provide this to my vet to digest before I take her in.

Also diagnosed with ? diabetes which causes her to drink lots. She is also on Minirin but don't think they have had much success. 

Has anyone had success with other Meds or natural therapies? I've read some have had success with Apple Cider Vinegar so we commenced this tonight :) 

Looking forward to reading your valued advice n suggestions 

Thankyou  

It's not a natural therapy as such, but we had a bitch with spay incontinence and the vet put her on Stilbesterol - a hormone - and after a few months we weaned her off it and the incontince did not return until she was 15 years old.

Golly... It's such a shame that kids aren't taught from a young age that throwing sand/rocks/sticks is dangerous?? I mean, not to wrap every kid in cotton wool, but seriously - follow those rules and MOST of the time, everyone should manage to keep their eyeballs.

*steps off soapbox*

Hope your dog is ok. I would've been furious too...too shy to yell at the stupid mother of the brats but man I would've thunk it in my head

Gibbs is fine, the kid was a lousy thrower thank goodness. What a stupid mother to assume my dog would not react badly to her brat!

I know Gibbs so well that I was sure he wouldn't do so, but how would any strang know that?

I told my hubby about it tonight and he was very impressed that I kept my temper!

I have decided that if I see her again I will speak to her about supervising her child if she doesn't like other people being forced to do so!

Wish I had thrown sand at her face tho :laugh:

If it is a choice between a dog's life and a human's life, especially a younger human in your charge, I think there is a clear choice to be made. However, I agree with the subsequent rescuers that he should have returned as soon as possible with appropriate equipment and serious intent to bring the dog back.

From what I read, he only came up with the younger hiker excuse when there was talk of his being charged. He first said it was the storm. And regardless - 3 days and he doesn't go back? And what sort of care did he give her to get her feet cut up?

We were having a lovely time at the beach in the off leash park. Gibbs had a new friend and they were racing in and out of the water - well his friend and another dog were - Gibbs rounded them up from the sand and occasionally forgot and raced into the water. Two little boys were playing on the sand and the other dog's mum and I were careful to keep the dogs away. The kids' mums were sitting at the top of the steps gossiping away and occasionally checking the kids.

First one boy, then the other started throwing sand at the dogs. Then one of them followed the dogs and threw sand at them. The mums paid no attention. After this went on quite a few times, one boy came right up to Gibbs and threw sand at him. I said very nicely, " Please don't throw sand at the dog it might hurt him ". This got mummy's attention and she said "He's my child and I will speak to him."

I felt like saying ' then why haven't you ?" but just explained that while my dog was OK, some dogs could react badly to her son's throwing sand at them. Her response was that she has a dog!

I have raised two kids, and am not an anti kid person, but am definitely over the precious mummy types that seem to be on the increase! When my kids were feral and I missed it for some reason, if another mum spoke to them or told them off, I would apologise if I felt my kid had misbehaved. I now understand why schools are complaining about the kids with precious mums:-)

After six months, a one month break is needed so that the drug doesn't accumulate above a certain level.

I do worry that it stays in the system so is more of a problem if there are side effects, and not that long ago I probably wouldn't have considered using it. But with my older boy having periods of severe back pain which various medications (carprieve, onsior, prednisolone, dexamethasone, tramadol) have been unable to control, there are few options left. I guess the advantage is Trocoxil provides more consistent anti-inflamm and is supposed to stop the breakthrough pain.

Another drug to look at is Robaxin or methocarbamol, which is used for muscle spasms. As we are dealing with arthritis, our vet suggested Trocoxyl. It has been used the UK for at least five years.

Does anyone have experience with the long lasting NSAID Trocoxil for pain relief? From my understanding it is safer than some of the older ones, but of course there may be issues with side effects and the drug staying in the system. Has anyone used it?

Our 13 year old has been on it for 6 months now.

It has been fantastic, far more effective than Rimadyl.

Prior to that we had done a course of Cartrophen injections, which seemed to have little impact, but hopefully will help delay the joint deterioration.

We did bloods first to make sure her liver etc were OK?

On a previous dog we had used the Cartrophen and Rimadyl which didn't make much difference.

I would choose Trocoxyl over Rimadyl because it is making a drastic difference to her life.

She has to have a month's break now, and I am dreading it.

I'm glad to hear it's working for your girl. Did you notice any pain coming through towards the end of each month?

She definitely is a little more stiff at the end of the month, but is still better than my old boy was on Rimadyl or tramol . She has good quality of life on this drug, and it seems that if a dog tolerates it, it works really well with less liver damage than Rimadyl or Metacam.

Does anyone have experience with the long lasting NSAID Trocoxil for pain relief? From my understanding it is safer than some of the older ones, but of course there may be issues with side effects and the drug staying in the system. Has anyone used it?

Our 13 year old has been on it for 6 months now.

It has been fantastic, far more effective than Rimadyl.

Prior to that we had done a course of Cartrophen injections, which seemed to have little impact, but hopefully will help delay the joint deterioration.

We did bloods first to make sure her liver etc were OK?

On a previous dog we had used the Cartrophen and Rimadyl which didn't make much difference.

I would choose Trocoxyl over Rimadyl because it is making a drastic difference to her life.

She has to have a month's break now, and I am dreading it.

If the temperament isn't good, I won't breed from a dog.

If the structure is not good enough, I won't breed from a dog.

For me, a dog must be sound in mind and body:-)

Ehhhh, I need help! I am trying Biscuit on BH, his coat has gone so lovely and he isn't struggling to poo...however, his breath stinks. This happens with every single food I've tried him on except for Eukanuba. Holistic Select, Advance, Nutro, Supercoat, and now BH. He gets this same foul smelling breath on all these foods except for Eukanuba...and I know that in people this type of smelly breath can be linked to problems in the stomach...is this the same for dogs? I understand every dog is different in regards to food, that is why I'm trying to find the right one for Biscuit...but I'm wondering if maybe the right food for him is just Eukanuba...but BH is really good despite the yucky yucky gross breath

One thing we have found really good for bad breath is raw chicken frames.

Don't know why, but it makes a huge difference.

I pay 99c a kilo for them from a normal chicken shop.

I just find it bizarre that things went so wrong and the breeder didn't even call the vet just to see if further action was warranted or at least go in today for a check up (Apologies now if she did). What if the black & stillborn pups were caused by infection which is putting the dam & other pups at risk. With infection every hour counts.

Given it was mid afternoon when the first black tongued pups were born, I would have involved the vet - just not worth taking the risk IMHO.

I am not sure sheridan

I don't know if i can just sit back and watch her breed the death out of these dogs and just go on like nothing has changed.....

so yes I am probly going to have to say yes....

I don't see her waiting until the bitch is 18months + either the accidental foxie litter was the girls first season...she could have aborted it but no kept the litter and needed a c section...

no talking sense into her.... and she abuses me everytime I try so..... she can do it all by herself I dont want a part in it..

I hate caring sometime because it hurts so much

Can you scare her ? Point out that if even one puppy turns out to have a preventable disease she can be sued and lose everything?

Use the AWL proposal for registering ALL breeders and them having the right to seize her dogs as soon as she advertises them if she hasn't paid the breeders registration fee !

I would try and find out where she is getting the pup before anything else - maybe offer to go with her so you can help her make sure it is OK?

Just remembered too that the total lack of lining starting from stomach thru the entire gut meant she suffed from the worst 'heartburn' until the lining regrew.

What you feed them will affect them a lot, and we found that the less work her body had to do re digesting the food, the better.

My voltaren thief had a very sensitive stomach for at least 12 months.

I actually fed her baby food for the first month, as well as all the stomach meds she was on. We used yoghurt with every meal when she was weaning back to normal foods.

Also, and I am sorry I cannot remember what we fed her, but we had to make sure her liver was not overtaxed.

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Hi

My friend has a 7 mth old Lab puppy who is limping and been on anti inflamatories to see if it gets better.

She has been told it may be her cruciate, is she too young for a cruciate injury or is it common in young pups? I had never had it so thought I would ask the experts :D

Thanks

That is very young, and Labs also have a tendency to OCD, so I would definitely investigate further.

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What type of painkillers were they?

I know someone else who had a puppy eat a whole packet of Voltarin and survived. It did strip the lining of the gut and she was very ill but recovered eventually with no after affects.

Damage to the gut lining may potentially lead to a loss of protein through the intestine (aka protein losing enteropathy). The owner may want to get a full blood panel done at least every year to be sure. Unfortunately, the fecal API test, which is a non-invasive test done on a poo sample, isn't available in Australia and a definitive diagnosis has to be done via biopsy.

She is 13 now and apart from arthritis from tigger leaping every day she is in excellent health. We did quite a few blood panels with a new vet - never went back to the old vet.

They both threw up last night and no drugs could be seen in their vomit which is bad because it means they dissolved into their system most likely. They are at the vet for 3 days on fluids.

I've spoken to the vet and really it's a waiting game to see what the blood tests show, they are otherwise both very happy and wagging their tails this morning. But the vet said we wouldn't see any effects straight away, there is still a real danger.

I'll be visiting them later on today and will update again later.

Right now I just feel completely awful, had about 2 hours sleep and really wishing I had pet insurance. Which I don't.

My dog ate a packet of Voltaren as a pup. The new kitten was the culprit as he had decided to play with the bottle and it had ended up on the floor. I came home to pools of vomit. Rang the vet whose wife was the receptionist/nurse. She wouldn't put me onto him and told me it was too late and it had to just 'go through her system til it came out the other end'.

I was not happy so found an excuse to go up there for something the next day and managed to mention it to another vet as she went past. She threw a fit. Gave me all these meds to coat the gut etc. Of course, it was too late. The pills were destroying her entire gut lining and the poor pup was so sad and sick. I took her to the vet and she was put on a drip. The bitch of a wife then rang the next day to complain about the pup crying as she was worried about the neighbours. Meanwhile I was ringing everyone I knew and got onto the wonderful Marilyn Gill. She didn't mince words and told me we'd be very lucky to save her and sent me straight to the specialist vets. After a week she started to recover and is now 13 years old! It took over a year to get her right back to normal, and Her liver has not recovered fully and is extremely small, but it hasn't affected her.

So don't give up because you did everything right and went straight to emergency. They will be able to deal with any problems as they show up, and it sounds like they are already taking preventative action.