Bullbreedlover

It was mentioned that the 10 week old puppy had been spayed and was also sick. Had the puppy been at the vets for a few days and had been seen by someone coming into the vet? A customer that may of asked a few questions? Is the health of the puppy life threatening. Do you need to perhaps mention this. I know you said the puppy may or may not still have stitches.

The age of the dog and how the semen is frozen has every thing to do with a successful litter OR NOT.

He may be siring puppies but you have to think about the viability of the semen post thaw.

I would be asking a good repo vet about the ins and outs.

Nowstarin...Do you work for Bayer??????

Your advice through many many previous posts that you have made all point in that direction.

It is the same scenario for all products that contain and active ingredient of Imidicloprid ie all Advantix, Advocate and Advantage and all products that use N methypyrrolidone as the emulsion. Most topical parasiticides are in this category too. ie Frontline, ect

It is an extremely dangerous and stupid practice to save a couple of $ especially in Tick preparations due to the risk of death that can AND DOES result.

It is also a main reason why people who do this are the first to complain of poor performance of products such as persistent flea problems and/or tick attachment. The correct dosing is HIGHLY IMPORTANT.

The practice of splitting doses indicates that the health of their animals is not of paramount importance and ignorance is asking for trouble. Cost cutting in this manner is playing russian roulette with your animals.

I hope this helps save the lives of some canines.

And for those who are planning to breed from their dogs and did not know it methypyrrolidone should NOT be used as it has been identified as a reproductive toxicant.

Nowstarin...you say this immulsion does not mix the active ingredients of the products. If not then why the heck do they use it? It is a solvent!

Methypyrrolidone........solvent

And even though the instructions on Advantix say it is safe for use on pregnant and lactating bitches I would never use it on them.

I havent used a topical insecticide on my dogs for nearly 3 years now. Last summer my two Bullmastiffs had about two fleas each and they were removed with a comb. My Bulldog last summer had zero fleas. Yes we do have ticks in our area. The last time my Bullmastiffs had a couple of brown ticks on them was 4 years ago after a local show. I am vigilant but I know it can happen.

It is the same scenario for all products that contain and active ingredient of Imidicloprid ie all Advantix, Advocate and Advantage and all products that use N methypyrrolidone as the emulsion. Most topical parasiticides are in this category too. ie Frontline, ect

It is an extremely dangerous and stupid practice to save a couple of $ especially in Tick preparations due to the risk of death that can AND DOES result.

It is also a main reason why people who do this are the first to complain of poor performance of products such as persistent flea problems and/or tick attachment. The correct dosing is HIGHLY IMPORTANT.

The practice of splitting doses indicates that the health of their animals is not of paramount importance and ignorance is asking for trouble. Cost cutting in this manner is playing russian roulette with your animals.

I hope this helps save the lives of some canines.

And for those who are planning to breed from their dogs and did not know it methypyrrolidone should NOT be used as it has been identified as a reproductive toxicant.

Nowstarin...you say this immulsion does not mix the active ingredients of the products. If not then why the heck do they use it? It is a solvent!

Methypyrrolidone........solvent

It is the same scenario for all products that contain and active ingredient of Imidicloprid ie all Advantix, Advocate and Advantage and all products that use N methypyrrolidone as the emulsion. Most topical parasiticides are in this category too. ie Frontline, ect

It is an extremely dangerous and stupid practice to save a couple of $ especially in Tick preparations due to the risk of death that can AND DOES result.

It is also a main reason why people who do this are the first to complain of poor performance of products such as persistent flea problems and/or tick attachment. The correct dosing is HIGHLY IMPORTANT.

The practice of splitting doses indicates that the health of their animals is not of paramount importance and ignorance is asking for trouble. Cost cutting in this manner is playing russian roulette with your animals.

I hope this helps save the lives of some canines.

I have heard many times about dogs having ticks attached even though they have been treated correctly or are wearing tick collars. So does that mean there is poor performance on those products???

One thing that bugs me is how these products(and heartworm products) have a weight range yet they say you cant split the product if your dog is on the low side of that range. But it is OK to give your dog the full dose, so they say. ie your dog weighs 47 kilos. The product covers dogs from 45 through to 70kgs. So in effect you are overdosing your 47 kilo dog??????????

Also making the Whelping box floor area sort of lumpy so they have to actually make an effort to move around and not just commando around the box

Making the floor lumpy should help with baby. Also I noticed in the photo that he was splaying his rear feet abit and that his feet were not at a good angle with his hindquarters.

Keep on tucking his back feet underneath him to turn his feet in so he gets up on these more often.

Better late than never

21st July was the last post from you and he only had surgery yesterday

Hope he makes a good recovery and goes on to be pain free.

There should not be any confusion.

Maybe you need to follow more closely.

He is not my dog and there was no money to pay for the surgery.

Under these circumstances, given the restraints I faced, I would say the time taken is conservative.

Perhaps you could find $5000+ for someone else's dog in less time.

Regards

Tralee

Why dont you read my post properly.

I was referring to the time since the dog was finally placed on pain relief and when you last posted in this thread which was the 21st of July until the time you said the dog ACTUALLY had surgery which was yesterday the 17th of August. In your previous posts you already said the money was available.

Better late than never

21st July was the last post from you and he only had surgery yesterday

Hope he makes a good recovery and goes on to be pain free.

Thanks so much for your support. I have my girl booked in tomorrow for her ultrasound, blood work up and first bout of chemo. She is still happy and healthy, to look at her you wouldnt know she is not well. I am happier knowing we can buy her more time, 4-6 weeks is too soon, I cant deal with that, not when I may get atleast another 12 happy healthy months out of her. Nothing compares to losing her, her life is the most important thing here but there is an added sadness. I had planned to breed her this season, she is due in any day now. Obviously that wont be happening. I had planned this mating for years, it was a very special mating and I had Bullmastiff breeders worldwide interested in this litter. Im sad I will not have a son or daughter of hers, something I desperately wanted, she is such a beautiful bitch, I have had great success with her and she means the world to me. The whole situation is just shit. At a time when I am supposed to be excited about new life from my beautiful girl Im devestated that Im losing her and the dream I had, instead. She is only 4 and a half, Life is so cruel

Life is very very cruel sometimes.

Best of luck with her treatment

Lynai have you tried your bitch on Fenugreek? It worked wonders for our girl last year - I was supplementing every feed like you, and after two days of fenugreek tea didn't have to any more.

I bought the seeds from the health food shop, soaked them in boiling water for a while, then when cool mixed with a milk replacer powder. My bitch was guzzling it down - and raised all 12 pups without supplementing once the milk kicked in.

Thats the stuff

:D aawwww...beautiful, I can almost smell the puppy breath !!

fingers crossed now for smooth sailing, thanks for sharing the pics, hopefully milk bar will be full soon.

the more they are on, the more it will flow :)

fifi

Isn't puppy breathe so wonderful?

Lynai there is a supplement that can be given to increase milk supply. I cant remember what it is called though. We have never had to use it.

If her milk supply doesnt come to much and you have to supplement the babies all through then that is what has to be done. There is always something that will challenge us.

Thanks guys but I'm devastated to say it's been confirmed I will speak to the oncologist today and discuss options. Without treatment she has 4-6 weeks left, you would never know she is as happy and active as ever. I just can't believe it.

I am so sorry Kaffy.

When I noticed that Alex's lymph nodes we up I went into denial. It cant be, not Alex. But the vet gave him 3 weeks from when we saw him. I opted not to treat. We put him to sleep just before the three weeks were up. Alex told me it was time.

I was told by a very dear friend of ours with Bullmastiffs that at this stage they are in no pain. Maybe a little later as the nodes expand more and more and swallowing and eating becomes hard.

And then we lost Morgan early this year.

I know it is a hard decision as to whether you treat or not and I wish you the best of luck if you do.

Thinking of you :cry:

Beautiful :)

I know the anguish you are going through.

Best of luck Kaffy

I have tried a lot of remedies for hot spots and had reasonable success with some but my vet recently gave me a tube of Panalog and seriously 1 application stops hot spots in their track. Just trim the hair and put some of this on it and all fixed. Great stuff.

I think we used to use Panalog years and years and years ago(the name rings a bell but I could be way off track) and there was also a powder prep that was a human medication but the vet could prescribe and we could get the med from a chemist. Then they stopped that med. It wasnt cheap. Cant remember what that was called but it was brilliant.

Alot of people and vets recommend the brown listerine to apply.

Ourselves when we have had hot spots on the Bulldogs we have used Athletes foot powder.

In saying that we havent had a case of hot spots with any of our dogs for years. And with NZ's climate it was always a worry. Here in Aus we have never had a case.

Hot spots usually occur with a humidity change(but not always) Wet eczema can be a bugger to get control of for some. We never clipped our dogs but the hair was dead and we just pulled it out in cleaning it up.

Zinc in my opinion is the best form of treatment and in the powder form. Try not to put too much on but yes the main thing is to keep it dry. If you are finding that pus has developed then of course you will need antibiotics as a secondary infection has occured.

So happy you have good news

Best of luck in raising the litter.

Hope them and Mum all do well.

First and foremost

Always be honest in letting them know what has happened and with answering any questions they have.

I am sure you know this already.

I do believe dogs have an after life and once their bodies have departed their souls live on.

I have owned dogs my whole entire life. They have been part of me and explaining to a child that their pet is no longer with us can be a harrowing experience for them and you.

Good luck

My dog was just lying asleep when all of a sudden this 'attack' came on. She wasn't dying as such but it was still quiet worrying. If I had her attention the 'attack' would just stop. It was like she was talking deep breaths (really forceful) in through her nose and out through her mouth. I videoed a part of it. She has since gone back to sleep. It lasted a couple minutes.

I will add the video once its uploaded (taking forever)

Google reverse sneezing :)

Was thinking reverse sneezing but was waiting for the vid.

Dogs will also vomit bile if they need to go to the toilet.

And or too many bones as Sway had said.

And yes dogs stomach acid does change in ph depending on what food you feed them. Feed them a diet which includes alot of bones and they produce different amounts of acid(to break down the bones) to a dog which is fed kibble diet. Another reason why you shouldnt just change a dogs diet from one food to the other suddenly.

Tralee

Is there someone else who can take this dog in and make sure it receives proper medical attention?

Because clearly the poor dog is not and has not got the treatment it deserves.

You said the first trauma happened 11 WEEKS ago. And that the owner had not taken the dog for correct diagnosing and treatment.

You said on the 6th of July that you had taken the dog in and were nursing it to prepare it for surgery.

You said after a vet consult it was mentioned about pain relief but you never took any home to give to the dog.

You said the dog was extremely thin and would not eat and had not been receiving a proper diet but yet you have no idea what that diet was.

You said you didnt like the vet you saw after a previous stuff up yet you took another dog to the same vet and all you can go on about is how the vets work together.

Tralee if there was a problem with paying for the surgery then how about asking the owner for assistance?

If the owner can not help then why are they still owners of this dog?

I can see this thread going the way the other one did with oh woh is me blah blah blah.

The fact is

The poor dog is in pain and has been for weeks while all you can do is prepare it for life on three legs while it recovers from the surgery it hasnt yet had.

So many things and people have failed this dog.

I hope it has a good recovery(when it finally does get surgery) and that it finds a loving home and doesnt go back to the one it had and the one it has now.

(backs away shaking head in utter amazement)

..not being rude.. but a sling is possibly also hurting.

It would not hold the leg/foot in the same manner as his own muscle groups ..

I think a full vet check before surgery is in order ... just in case.

Tralee

Would you like painkillers if you did this kind of injury to yourself?

Do you think it would hurt?

Dogs may be stoic, but they are not bionic.

You might get him some pain killers.

He may thank you for that.

Pers.

In the previous thread I have presented the diagnosis from 'my Vet' who was consulted initially.

Bullb.

They mentioned giving the dog painkillers when we arrived at the Vet, but we eventually went home without any.

OK I will be silly and ask....why did you go home without painkillers?

The dog has had the injury for many weeks.

You have also said that he is very very underweight and very inactive.

And asking whether or not a vet examination for something else would be in order?

Given all the circumstances you have put forward surely a full bloods would be in order.

What has the dog been fed at his owners place?

Its not known what his previous diet was, sorry.

I can ask though.

Gosh. if the dog is severly underweight and even with the injury, if you take on a dog for surgery and recovery then why didnt you ask what the dog was fed to gain a better insight of why he is so underweight.

Poor boy. Hope he recovers well. Sounds like he is going through hell.

All of this could be explained by chronic pain.

Thanks

How should I proceed then?

The dislocation doesn't appear to be painful unless he walks on it.

I keep it in a sling during his rare walks.

Would it be necessary to have a Vet examination for something else before or after the surgery to his right front leg?

Have you ever had a dislocation?

They hurt like buggery ALL the time until its fixed.

Muscles and ligaments are stretched and torn.

Dogs are stoic buggers but my guess is that he is experiencing residual pain.

What would be interesting is to see if pain killers changed his demeanour.

He sounds depressed and pain can do that.

Thanks Haredown Whippets :)

Dogs are indeed stoic.

I didn't decide on painkillers as I elected to keep him off his foot by restricting it in a sling.

His morale is quite good.

If he is suffering in silence, as you suggest, it might explain his very docile temperament.

I might get him some pain killers, and watch him on those.

Thanks again.

Tralee

Would you like painkillers if you did this kind of injury to yourself?

Do you think it would hurt?

Dogs may be stoic, but they are not bionic.

You might get him some pain killers.

He may thank you for that.