D & D

My frienf is bringing his desexed male back into the conformation ring and asked me a question and i don't know the answer but I am sure one on my fellow DOLers with knowledge will know the answer;

Q. If the dog is awarded Best Neuter Dog, then best neuter of breed and then competed for Best Neuter In Group and wins it is the dog awarded any further points other than what it is awarded for Best neuter of Breed?

Thanks

Nope, it's only awarded breed points (even if it goes Neuter in Show)

BIS - Great Dane, bred by DANERANGER

Woot woot :champagne:

Huge congratulations DANERANGER :cheer:

Edit for spellunk

One Belgian Shepherd in one State. Name me the last Leonberger or Pharoah Hound. The Dogzonline point score is keeping the Grand Champions showing. Look at who leads each State and breed. Point score won't keep me showing but a change back in the GC conditions probably will.

There is an import Pharoah Hound in the NT who has won several BIS.

Beat me to it Pappy :D

And she's recently become a Grand Champion!

http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/profile.asp?dog=17013

I got to pick up this little guy today... :D This is Jerry! He is just too gorgeous, and is busy snuggling with the kids on the couch as I type.

I can't wait to get back out there!! Looking forward to his first shows at the end of September

Aww....does this mean I'll have a crush on two of your dogs?

But, I answered one to two for the first two questions and none for the third

So for question 1, just because they show, they should automatically be able to breed a litter? I selected N/A for that question, because it mentioned showing only and not health testing like question 2 did. Had it said showing AND health testing (for relevant breeds), my answer would have been different.

Don't rcall that being an option when I answered.

If you quoted the rest of my post, you would see that I said there are some breeders who health test and show and shouldn't have any litters.

I know of a breeder who health tests and shows. Her line has a GDV problem. She is getting ready to breed from a bitch who had GDV (requiring surgery) at about 12 months of age. The dam of this bitch has D grade hips and could not naturally whelp (2 litters, 2 ceasers (sp??)).

She's ready to put this poor girl through the stress of whelping and raising a litter. IMO this is beyond plain wrong, it shouldn't be allowed.

You should have made the poll public, then we wouldn't have to guess who voted for 15+ litters.

Just a thought I had...

Sadly there are some breeders who show and health test that shouldn't be allowed to have any litters

But, I answered one to two for the first two questions and none for the third

Does he look happy in his new home?

Extremely :D

Congratulations on your new addition.

Can you please give me a link to these lead people, I may be interested :thumbsup:

Me too. I need something strong enough to hold an excited Dane ;)

I brought a concrete barrel look planter (which holds about 25 to 30 litres) from a local garden store ... it came with the hole already plugged otherwise I you can just plug it.

The dogs were destroyed all other water bowls and this works brilliantly ... and it keeps the water cooler in summer.

I've got something similar. It's supposed to be a garden water feature bowl :D

Works great

Is that the front area directly in front of the dog grounds itsmeg? If that is full where else are we able to park? Im guessing it will be pretty full by 2pm :-)

Yep, it's directly out the front.

It doesn't usually fill up completely, and there's traffic guys who will direct you to empty spots.

Are you on today? Today is pretty quiet..............well, as far as shows go :D

Where do we park for the Royal please? I know we are able to drop off our dogs etc and unless we are members are not able to park just to the left so where do we go once dogs have been unloaded please and thankyou :-)

In the general car park out the front of the showgrounds

I would love a mantle great dane in the future and am willing to wait for a correctly marked mantle male from the right breeder but if my research (health, temperament, conformation and registered ethical breeder) points to a fawn when the time comes then I will be happy with a fawn. I would prefer a healthy, good looking dane from a great breeder in the "wrong" colour than have a poorly bred mantle from a dodgy breeder.

I have a Mantle...................want him? :laugh:

You know I'd take him in a heartbeat :D

You know that while I have a heartbeat, there's never a chance of that? :D

I would love a mantle great dane in the future and am willing to wait for a correctly marked mantle male from the right breeder but if my research (health, temperament, conformation and registered ethical breeder) points to a fawn when the time comes then I will be happy with a fawn. I would prefer a healthy, good looking dane from a great breeder in the "wrong" colour than have a poorly bred mantle from a dodgy breeder.

I have a Mantle...................want him? :laugh:

I'm less partial to any particular colour than I used to be. My next Dane will be one bred for health, temperament and conformation, colour will be a long way down the list

Not all of them have it either

I can't see it on my dogs. I can't even see it on Shimmy's profile

ETA: Ooh, Troy's here! Where is it???

Check it now, I turned it on for you to have a look at.

Thanks!! Is easy to spot when it's there :D

Not all of them have it either

I can't see it on my dogs. I can't even see it on Shimmy's profile

ETA: Ooh, Troy's here! Where is it???

I just noticed some profiles on DOL have Facebook like buttons - when did this happen?

I then when and checked my dogs it is on there as well.

Im not sure If I like it or not - what do you think?

You can see it here

I can't see it?

I need a map

It's such a personal thing................there is no 'right time' that suits everyone.

For me, it was when I missed having a dog more than I missed the dog in question.

Oh Gayle, I'm so sorry for you loss

I've often admired your gorgeous boy in your sig and many posts. He'll leave the biggest hole

Run free Benson

Tears for another dog I never had the pleasure to meet.

Tennant Creek, day 2

TCDSS - Ian & Gail Taylor Memorial Show #2 - 9th July 2011

Judge - Mrs Carolyn Butler (NSW)

BIS - Ch Sunspur Zuess CD ET (Jones' English Springer Spaniel)

RUBIS - Ch Mikulov Full Metal Jacket (Herba's Siberian Husky)

BPIS - Montego Prim N Proper (Tennyenhuis' Golden Retriever)

MPIS - Pandanlamo Roly Georgy Porgy (Fabrici's Pug)

PIS - Kobidan Grand Inquisitor (Cattell & Nichols German Shorthaired

Pointer)

JIS - Salphara Casanova Kid - (Sanim's Skye Terrier)

IIS - Ch Mikulov Full Metal Jacket (Herba's Siberian Husky)

NTBIS - Ch Tagetarl Stumpy Sorcerer (Beckett's Australian Stumpy Tailed

Cattle Dog)

ABIS - Ch Sunspur Zuess CD ET (Jones' English Springer Spaniel)

OIS - Ch Cantonam Baharat (Watt & Irlams Saluki)

ONIS - Ch Mikulov Whats Not To Love (Herba's Siberian Husky)

BIG 1 - Ch LNL's Sunni's Roly Poly (imp USA) (Fabrici's Pug)

RUIG 1 - Ch Tunamara Sahje (Flattum's Italian Greyhound)

BIG 2 - Salphara Casanova Kid - (Sanim's Skye Terrier)

RUIG 2 - Tagetarl Aussie JB Shere Khan (Beckett's Australian Terrier)

BIG 3 - Ch Sunspur Zuess CD ET (Jones' English Springer Spaniel)

RUIG 3 - Ch Kobidan Flower Power (Cattell's German Shorthaired Pointer)

BIG 4 - Ch Cantonam Baharat (Watt & Irlams Saluki)

RUIG 4 - Xkaliba Ozzys Legacy (Week's Dachshund Smooth Haired)

BIG 5 - Ch Tagetarl Fire In The Sky (Beckett's Australian Cattle Dog)

RUIG 5 - Kaytenna Just Dance (Hudson's German Shepherd Dog)

BIG 6 - Ch Mikulov Full Metal Jacket (Herba's Siberian Husky)

RUIG 6 - Bravadobe Ride Into The Sun (AI) (Irlam & Watts' Dobermann)

BIG 7 - Ch Kellanz Infinity NBeyond (AI) (Mallyon & Potters British Bulldog)

RUIG 7 - Ch Agenor Quite A beau (Sanim's Tibetan Terrier)

Again, thanks Springy and Mr Springy :thanks:

Wheeeee........got results :D

If there's anything wrong, don't blame me, I'm cutting and pasting

Tennant Creek Show 1

TCDSS - Ian & Gail Taylor Memorial Show #1

Judge - Mr. Lynn Butler (NSW)

BIS - Ch LNL's Sunni's Roly Poly (imp USA) (Fabrici's Pug)

RUBIS - Mikulov Etched In Frost (Herba's Siberian Husky)

BPIS - Myjacks Princess Ariel (Anderson's Jack Russell Terrier)

MPIS - Kellanz Scarlet Savy Showgirl (Mallyon & Potter's British Bulldog)

PIS - Bravadobe Ride Into the Sun (Irlam & Watt's Dobermann)

JIS - Mikulov Etched In Frost (Herba's Siberian Husky)

IIS - Tagetarl Hearts On Fire (Beckett's Australian Cattle Dog)

NTBIS - Dekadance Use Your Illusion (Fidler's Staffordshire Bull Terrier)

ABIS - Ch Sunspur Zuess CD ET (Jones' English Springer Spaniel)

OIS - Ch LNL's Sunni's Roly Poly (imp USA) (Fabrici's Pug)

ONIS - Ch Mikulov Whats Not To Love (Herba's Siberian Husky)

BIG 1 - Ch LNL's Sunni's Roly Poly (imp USA) (Fabrici's Pug)

RUIG 1 - Pandanlamo Pandora (Fabrici's Pug)

BIG 2 - Dekadance Use Your Illusion (Fidler's Staffordshire Bull Terrier)

RUIG 2 - Salphara Casanova Kid - (Sanim's Skye Terrier)

BIG 3 - Ch Sunspur Zuess CD ET (Jones' English Springer Spaniel)

RUIG 3 - Ch Kobidan Flower Power (Cattell's German Shorthaired Pointer)

BIG 4 - Xkaliba Ozzys Legacy (Week's Dachshund Smooth Haired)

RUIG 4 - Ch Wyldchase West Coast Jazz (Noonan's Whippet)

BIG 5 - Tagetarl Hearts On Fire (Beckett's Australian Cattle Dog)

RUIG 5 - Ch Clanheath Twist Of Fate (Marshall's Border Collie)

BIG 6 - Mikulov Etched In Frost (Herba's Siberian Husky)

RUIG 6 - Mikulov Takeover Target (Herba's Siberian Husky)

BIG 7 - Ch Kirada Born To Rock CDX ET ( McKay's Poodle Standard)

RUIG 7 - Ch Kellanz Infinity NBeyond (AI) (Mallyon & Potters British Bulldog)

ETA Thanks Springy....and Mr Springy :D

Hope everyone has arrived safely in Tennant.

Have a great time.............and please let us who are stuck at home know how things went :D

This thread has had some very good replies Thank your for your constructive imput. I opened this thread with a little of my history (as I had a idea that someone would get personal and not stay with the thread) and sure enough it became personal for only a couple of peoples. To those your questions did not warrant an answer. Our chosen sport is quite expensive and requires dedication and you need to be prepared for that if you are serious about breeding/showing dogs.

Of course anyone living in WA, Tasmania, the NT or remote from metro areas and specialty locations should have to haemorrhage financially to attend specialties - where they exist. Otherwise they lack "dedicaton".

I find that patronising in the extreme.

Well said

I just found it extremely rude..............

Yep, another one here with two dogs who sleep on the bed..............they're Great Danes, sometimes I fit, too

If you visit any Dog Shelter you will find many pure breed dogs that have been given up and or mistreated. About 90% of these animals will be PTS.

Do you have any references to back up these statements?

This than would help to improve the breeding and assist new owners in buying puppies of quality. Also it would greatly reduce the small breeders from indiscriminate breeding.

Er, how?

How on earth would making a title harder (or impossibel in some cases) to get reduce breeding?

Dodgy breeders aren't going to change just because their dogs aren't titled.

Maybe some more thinking this plan through is in order?

Yes I have Judged (Speciality Shows). Yes I do show GSDs and show at Speciality Shows Only (because I to Live In The County Where There Are Only a Few Shows a Year).

I have known people who lived in Perth,Darwin, Adelaide and Hobart who travel to Speciality Shows in Sydney and Newcastle so I cant understand the locality being such a handicap.

So, you only show at specialty shows because you live in the country? Seems like you don't want to travel but think that others should?

I've known people from Darwin to travel to their breed specialty shows, too. They did quite well

Personally, I'm not in a position to travel to a specialty show and find somewhat hypocritical of someone to judge me on that when they choose the shows they do because they 'live in the country'.

I see you've chosen not to answer any of my questions, so I've quoted them in case you missed them