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Nova is well, the ever doting mum

Sadly we lost the two pups were were unsure about last night - a girl and a boy.

So we now have 2 boys born 16th October    2 HUGE boys

17 minutes ago, Monteba said:

 

How did Nova go ?

What a torrid whelping!  4 very large pups, 16 hours.  Pretty certain we will lose at least one of the pups, and another is questionable.  Fortunately, the other two are huge, strong and doing very well

Congratulations on the October babies so far! :D

Nova's currently in 1st stage labour, so hopefully will have some news about her soon :D

No ultrasouding here, but Nova is changing shape, so I'm quite sure she's pregnant

16th October for rottweiler babies, fingers crossed

Thanks so much guys :D

Hi guys

Story is, family member with a 1 year old baby and a kelpie.

We're in Tasmania, and they're in Melbourne so I can't see the situation first hand, but our family members has just messaged me with the following.  I have said that the vet is a very good idea and definitely looking to have a trainer come and assess, and for now to keep them separated.  I have told her that I would post this here to seek advice and please, any recommendations on reputable behavioural trainers in Melbourne that they could contact?

Thanks so much for advice and recommendations

 

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I have a question for both, or one, of you. Indie has progressively gotten worse around the baby now that she is crawling and trying to walk.

 

She tries to pet Indie (with me there) and tries to play with him.

 

Initially I thought I noticed some nervous behaviour from Indie, but OH was pretty dismissive because he trained Indie and thinks that he knows him well enough to think he wouldn't attack anyone.

 

But the more the baby is trying to interact with him the more he is starting to do things like snarling at her and snapping at her.

 

He doesn't move away from her if he is unhappy, he seems to expect her to stay away from him. Which is all well and good generally as I don't let them near each other unless I am there.

Yesterday however, I was sitting with the two of them, I was patting Indie and he was fine, then the baby attempted to join in and he immediately snarled before she had even touched him.

It is quite stressful and I feel as if OH doesn't believe me, but I am extremely reluctant to have Indie inside with the baby now, which is probably going to further contribute to his jealousy of her.

 

I am at a loss of what to do, we introduced them the way professionals recommend and we don't let the baby play with him in a rough manner or at all for that matter.

 

I have booked him into a vet to see if he is in any pain or anything that may be causing him to be more agitated, but I genuinely believe it is behavioural and that he thinks he is in charge.

My question is, should we be investing in a trainer to come and work with us and Indie and see if we can resolve the problem? And if so, can you guys recommend someone in melbourne for us?

 

Or is it something that generally isn't fixable, and should we be looking to completely separate the two? My worry about this though is that further separating them will make the problem worse, and that the already lessened time we spend with Indie will be even less.

Some good advice here, so no need to repeat what others have already said

I would ask, though, that you have a read of this topic: 

Please find out if the breeder has, or is, testing the sire and dam for this condition so that you have some idea of the chances of your pup being a carrier (or, heaven forbid, affected).  It's unlikely that the sire and dam were tested before the litter was conceived, as this has really only come to light since the beginning of the year, but there is no reason why they shouldn't be testing now to find out what the status of the sire and dam are.

Also, if you have any intention whatsoever of breeding, then PLEASE test your pup to find out their JLPP status.

Thanks for posting this Meg!

Lot's of work going on in the rottweiler world at the moment to make people aware and to get everyone testing their dogs.  Please spread to work to anyone who you may talk to that is looking for a rottweiler puppy that they must ensure that the parents of pups that they're looking at have been, or are in the process of being, tested (there are some expected litters out there that were conceived before this all fully came to light, so parents are in the process of being tested at the moment).

The video above is heartbreaking to watch, but very important to see.  I can't imagine the heartbreak experienced by the breeder and puppy buyers in this, and any other, instances.  This breeder has been amazing in working with vets and scientists to work out what happened to her pups and it bring it to light.  I just can't fully express my respect for the lengths that she has gone to in terms of time, heartache and expense.

We have swabbed Nova in preparation for breeding her mid year, waiting on those swabs to get back to the OFA and for results to be received, and will be testing Luna when we do her other health tests in a few months time.

If it's anything besides an apple you can plug a usb cable into it and your computer and use it like an external drive or send it over via Bluetooth once again only if it's not an apple.

You can do the same thing for an iPhone, provided you only want to access photos and videos taken with the phone camera - just plug into the computer using the USB cord, access the phone as an external drive and from there access all photos and videos in the library :) That's how I get all of my photos off of my phone.

Can't access anything else, like music, etc - only photos and videos.

From things that I hear, some vets seem to just jump to a Hip Dysplasia conclusion with large breed puppies like Rotty's and scream quick, we must do JPS!

Have you spoken to your breeder as a first port of call? Can they recommend a vet you can take your pup to for a second opinion.

I would absolutely insist on x-raying and examination of those x-rays by a specialist before considering surgery. I would also consider taking your pup to a greyhound chiro/muscle man and possibly a Bowen Therapist for examination.

I have a bitch here who has very good hips, x-rayed and scored. While taking her in for vaccinations a couple of years ago the vet manipulated her back legs and declared that she was dysplastic in her left hip...

I keep hearing stories of vets pushing for JPL on rottweiler puppies without due cause, and it really concerns me. Not saying without doubt that there isn't a cause in your case, it just concerns me how often I hear of vets jumping to that option, and I would certainly look into it further before going down that path, particularly if your pup is from a registered breeder and health tested lines.

ETA: Sorry have read the rest of the thread now and I see that you have spoken to your breeder :)

I also absolutely agree with not desexing him yet, he needs those hormones to grow properly, so you are correct in your desire to leave him to mature first.

Also - good on you for doing extra research and asking for more opinions!

Finally - as a rottweiler breeder, I have to say.... Photos???? Puppy Photos??? Why are there no photos?? :p

I have vague recollections of it being something to do with the cold encouraging faster and thicker fleece regrowth - but that could be totally my imagination!

We have shedding sheep, so shearing isn't something we have to worry about, thank goodness.

Back when we had woolly sheep we would try to shear around a month or 6 weeks before lambing, so that might be something to do with it for some producers too?

These days, we have shedding sheep and we also don't start lambing until mid September - but we have our main pasture growth around 6 weeks later than most other areas, so mid September works better for us.

I get the impression that the OP is just talking about visiting the puppy for the first time, not taking it home yet :)

I was thinking Rottweiler too, until I read the bit about the OP wanting the dog to not make a sport of hunting the possums at night.....

Lol yes, but there aren't many dogs generally that won't be stimulated by possums at night!

was just going to say that. Even mine go nuts at the possums.

This is all of our dogs, replacing "squirrel" with "possum" :laugh:

I was thinking Rottweiler too, until I read the bit about the OP wanting the dog to not make a sport of hunting the possums at night.....

I still giggle to myself every time I think of it! Classic grumpy Trafford vs clueless handler! He was such a funny man, very much one of a kind :)

Such sad news

Such a talented photographer, with a brilliant eye for making his subjects look their best. A very sad loss

The ANKC website has a listing of Australian judges :)

http://ankc.org.au/

Loved it! Nervous or not, you did a great job, and Seven was outstanding, of course :D

I almost squealed when I saw her beg! Nova has a begging twin yay!! :D

Glad you guys are all enjoying the pics. I am very happy to continue updating if you guys aren't sick of seeing them yet :D

Yeah, so gonna happen! LOL!

You know there would be a riot if you stopped posting photos, yes? :D

Gosh, they grow so quick! Just the change in size in the photos of the puppies with Seven, doing so well! :D

Yay! They're here!

Well done everyone, and good girl Seven <3

Sad about little angel baby

11 pups - 6 girls, 5 boys :D

I'm definitely going double figures with that belly :)

Might have to spam with photos when they arrive :D

Might? MIGHT??

Can we just correct that quote please?

Will definitely post multitudes of cute photos when they arrive :D

See, that's better! :D

On a serious note, best of luck for a lovely smooth whelping, and really looking forward to seeing the babies :) xx

I've never seen anyone try and swap dogs around. We were just lucky in our case that the second level cages were still big enough for my rotty girl, who was a smaller girl. Had that not been possible, my next step would have been to approach the staff for advice, and may have ended in her having to stay in our car.

Every other time, we've been lucky enough for there to still be enough large cages for our dogs, but every time there has also still been small dogs in the bottom large cages, when they shouldn't have been in those cages.