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He is appealing the decision but he will lose. There is no chance the council will allow him to continue as he pleases with his track record. By the way another strange point is the dog doesn't only try to attack other dogs, horses (police for example) cows, possums etc are all in the same boat.

He will have to take him to professional treatment if not im certain in the future he will be put down as there will be more issues. I didn't know him when he took him on the boot camp, he might of had a job back then and had more money but now he is on the pensions, and it will probably take him time to save money. But i think he wont take him for any help unless the courts order him to as he believes his dog is not dangerous.

It is a customer of mineswho has been coming to my shop for a good 8 months every single day. So i know his dogs very well and all his daily issues. Im not one to tell him what do do, i advise him nicely but its not my job to tell him how to handle his dogs and what to do. I knew issues would happen and the council will get involved and they will sort him out.

Maybe it has to do with his heavy choker he wears or the vet more likely is clueless. I haven't taken my sisters dog off the lead at the vet but her collar weighs nothing. His dog has been reported a couple of times to his local council for dog fights but because it never bit a human or killed a animal it was just classifed a nuisance. The council advised him though that was his last chance/warning and any other issues would make him a dangerous dog. Which is where he is at now. The 2 councils must have talked to each other.

Strange they took him off the lead. The council where the incident happened advised the owner the scales should not be in waiting room and only in the treatment room and they where going to talk to the vet about that as they where not happy. If you need to take your dog off the lead for whatever reason to weight the dog that would make sense if you don't then the waiting room is fine.

He is not the smartest guy and im sure the bootcamp team didn't explain to easy enough what needs to be done. The scales believe it or not where in the waiting room, how can a vet have scales in the waiting room? My vet i go to actually has the scale in the waiting room also surely that is not aloud by the council. To me the vet is to be part blamed to as they were passed over responsibility when he handed them the leash. They needed to take him off the leash to get his proper weight. Im sure the vet knows he is an aggressive dog as they treat him. Anyhow when he walks his dog into the vet he has it on a muzzle now still at the end of the day the boxer died.

I didn't think it has nothing to do with the breed either but the people at the boot camp seemed to think he cant be fixed and said its his breed. They are obviously clueless. I am seeing it from the poor ladies view. I can't imaging taking your dog to a vet, having it get into a serious fight and dying. I would be devastated. Anyhow i got him the info through someone i know of the Australian version of the dog whisperer. He will need to save some money as he is a pensioner, i think he charges around $300 per 30 mins but gaurantes to fix your dog or you don't pay anything. But the handler will also need to be sorted out (training) as he doesn't always think like a normal logical person would. Don't get me wrong he is a nice guy and loves his dogs but how can you enjoy a dog which you can never let him off the leash anywhere even a park?

Before i start i have to say that i do not agree with the way this person handles his dogs and i don't agree with his dogs behaviour. One of my customers who comes past my shop owns a couple of dogs. The one i'm talking about is a Bull Mastiff cross Bull Arab registered as a Bullmastiff Cross for obvious reasons. He got the dog at 9 months old, before that it lived on a farm as a pig hunting dog. Anyhow he had no issues with the dog at first, could leave it off the lead, he would play with other dogs all was well. At 1 year old he was attacked and he never was the same after that. When he sees dogs now 9/10 (mostly males) he wants to attack, and to be honest i think its to kill. Basically to me its like attack first ask questions later attitude. The owner knows this, understands this and never ever takes him off the lead. Whenever this dog sees a skateboarder he goes into attack mode, chest out barking loud goes for the ankles to take the person down. HE obviusly stops him from reaching the person. When his other pets bark also he attacks them as there in his way, for a few seconds to put them in there place i suppose. An issue i see here is he gets angry at the skateboarders for riding illegally on the footpath and says nothing to his dog, that aggressive behaviour from him to me rubs off on his dog. I think he is not the Alpha his dog is. He has taken the dog to a boot camp for 1 week, cost him $1500 and was told never to let him off the leash. The next day after the boot camp he got into a fight with a dog near his house which he doesn't like. The issue is when he gets into a fight ( been a couple) he really hurts the other dog, he is very very strong. Just the other month he took his dog to the vet to get his pupp vaccinated, The vet took him off the leash to weight him, no dogs where in there that time. A lady went to walk in with her big boxer he screamed no dont come in as he knew his dog will attack. It did took him around couple of minutes to get his dog off the boxer. Unfortunately the boxer after a few operations died a month or so later due to health issues, it got a common sickness which can easily be cured (foget which one) but i think it couldn't recover due to the complications from the fight. His dog is now classified a dangerous dog and even though i know his dog and he loves humans (unless there riding a skateboard) he is not in control when other dogs or skateboarders are around. Any other time he looks like the most calm innocent dog you have ever seen. The conditions given to him (which he will fight and lose in my opinion) are very strict. Here are some off the top of my head: 1) Can only handle him and no other dog (he has 3) 2) Has to be desexed 3) Has to always be on a leash and have strong leash, chains, collars etc (his on a 4mm choker at all times) 4) Has to be on a muzzle at all times when leaving his propery 5) has to sleep in a cage in the yard ( but he sleeps in his bedroom so not sure how that will work) He has no issues having him on a muzzle the hole time but doesn't want it to be classified dangerous as he thinks its not dangerous. The man in his 50s is a pensioner and also doesn't think like you and me. For example his dog peed on some asian tourists in the city (in front of there hotel) on there suitcase and them and he blamed them for standing on a corner and what can the dog to. I personally think his dogs issues is purely down to his attitude and the way he doesn't keep his dogs in line. i haven't told him this i will leave the council to deal with him i dont want any problems. Do you think that breed dog can be a good dog and can he trained to be a well behaved dog or cant that breed be trusted ever? Anyhow i thought i would share this as it is interesting topic to talk about but very sad that a dog passed away.

Thanks for all this info it really helps me. Ye i do understand there a strong dog. Ive been spending time every day with my friends dogs. He has an Amstaff (to be honest it think there is some pitbull in her she has shark like teeth) She is 6 months old. And his slightly larger dog Bullmastiff cross Bull Arab (3 years old). That dog is very strong and to be honest very aggressive, half those issues is the handler himself but that is another issue/topic. I got him to watch Dog whisperer hopefully he will get some tips there to help him control his dog. I saw a fair few breeders bredding blues that i thought in due time i would find a top blue pupp, but after talking to a few people and some advice on here i wont restrict myself to just a blue color. Blue Fawn is pretty nice also actually. I actually never new the color names of the Amstaffs this might seem like a really stupid question but why is the blue fawn like a light goldy brown color and not close to a blue color? This color is blue mixed with fawn (goldy color)? ANyhow when choosing a pup now i will go for: Cleared healthy parents (proven to me), Cleared healthy pupps + Pedigree Bread for temperament not huge size from a breeder who loves there job color Im also not restricting myself to state as delivary is not price these days.

A couple of breeders i have talked tell me similar things. There lines are carefully selected, health checked and bread for good temperament. It sounds very good but since i im not an expert in this i am taking the breeders word. Apart from advice from breeders and other dog owners is there anything i can do make sure they are the real deal and not just telling you what you want to hear?

If you read this whole thread the breeders and longer term owners have indicated what you need to check for and ask about. All I can really offer is to do your homework.. Research, research and then research some more.. Thanks for the reply. As the breeders are far away it is hard to tell through photos. I did read the info on the front page but would love to know if people know top tier breeders which i will then study. But i must of missed some information in this thread i will read all the thread and hopefully some of that information will help me in my quest. I dont rush buy i like learning and getting advice from people with knowledge to eventually make the right choice. After all, this is a friend for life.

Hey there new to this forum so please take it easy on me. Im a dog lover but im new to the game. We currently have a small dog (3 years old) and im now really confident with dogs. Been playing around with my friends American Staffy and i have really grown fond of them. They are a beautiful dog. I'm looking into getting one. But i'm afraid i'm clueless in what questions to ask. I know the basics to buy off registered breeders(with paperwork) and have paper work also confirming there healthy. But what kind of paperwork should i be asking for to prove the dog is high quality or champion quality? What should i be looking for in this paperwork? What else do i need to be asking? What should i be looking at to get a top tier quality pup? I'm looking into the blue color, i'm really into this color and i dont see many around. My choice will not be affected by price, just quality.