Pjrt

Other breeds you might want to look at are 

Eurasier 

Norwegian Elkhound

Swedish Valhund

Someone else mentioned above but for whatever reason, the Norwegian Buhund was the first that sprang to mind too..

There could be something wrong with your blade but don’t discount your clipper either. You blade might be dull and needs sharpening, may be damaged, or needs to be re tensioned etc. or the blade drive on your Clipper May need replacing. 

Can I suggest you join a FB group called GEM(Groomers Equipment Maintenance)

Ask this question there and you will get great professional advice from an awesome congregation of industry sharpening and equipment maintenance professionals.

If you are in VIc please look up Ian Parsons at Feather Edge Sharpening, for excellent service and sharpening work and advice. 

Edited to add, you said you only recently got the Clipper, so you probably have new blades to. Unfortunately it’s a real issue that brand new blades often come out of the factory blunt or mis aligned. So it’s not inconceivable that your brand new blades need to be sharpened and serviced to get the best out of them. 

Id seek the advice of a professional. 

Hi all

im after any feedback regarding prams for dogs. It’s not something I ever thought I’d be considering, but I’m in the market for one.

i currently have a middle aged small dog. I like to go for a good long walk most days but my small dog conks out usually about 20 to 30 mins from the finish line. Where we like to walk is a recreational area away from home that’s one way in way way out sort of thing. So I was thinking maybe to push a pram until he’s done, and push him the rest so I can go a bit further. And handy when it’s warm, and handy to take cargo such as water and bowl, which we currently usually leave at the car, which again limits our range.

Also, if the puppy gods are on my side, I’ll be getting a very large breed very active breed puppy sometime probably a bit later in the year, so will want to extend well beyond the walking range of my small dog. Getting small dog used to a pram now will also mean it’s easy to introduce walks with the pram from day one with large puppy. 

Ok, so I’m after a heavy duty all terrain kind of thing. I’m prepared to pay whatever to get something that suits the task and will see us through almost daily use for several years......

Thanks 

And I think you can tag as well @shel   

I live just a couple of hundred metres from where the towns firework display goes off. It’s seriously like being in a war zone even inside, so I’ve arranged to drop Tits out at my old property a few kms from town for a sleepover with my ex. He’ll be asleep by 9 o’clock and Tits will snore his way through it tucked up on the bed.

me on the other hand will have to suffer through the warefare of the fireworks and the general rambunctious frivolity on the river, on the riverbank, in the caravan park etc etc. The town is inundated with tourists.

But the thing I truly struggle with is hearing hundreds and hundreds of galahs, cockatoos, corellas, swamphens, and various other birds and wildlife, screeching and screaming in fear of their lives flying around like crazed things. 

I really effing detest fireworks. 

Is this the dog we generally refer to as Thai Ridgeback, or is this a different type?

they are beautiful 

The thing that jumps off the page at me is that in a push to end “cruel & barbaric” puppy farms, it fully allows transparent commercial breeders to flourish in broad daylight.....ie; big shiny puppy farms. It further normalises the large scale wholesale breeding facility as the way forward in dog breeding. And that is a very sad thing imo. Once dog breeding is allowed to be an industry, we’re on a very slippery slope. 

I recently has a similar experience on the reserve across the road. It is an offlead area but the laws of effective control still dictate. 

I wrote an email to the council. I’ve been told this is the best way to make things formal and for records and follow up. 

Thought I’d share as an example. I tried to explain things in the order they happened and in a factual manner without too much emotional embellishment. 

On the afternoon of Wednesday November 22nd at approx 5.15pm I was walking my small dog on the riverbank bird reserve on Purnong Rd, just adjacent to the end of the caravan park. 
I walked first in the direction of the jetty and passed a couple eating takeaway on the grass. I kept my dog under effective control at a respectable distance. I then passed a group of 4 Black and Tan kelpie type dogs swimming it the river, accompanied by a man and woman on the bank. As we passed 2 of the dogs rushed over to us. They bounced around and got us wet and frightened my small dog a little with minor chasing etc. I kept my dog at my side under effective control and moved on. The 2 kelpie dogs returned to the man and woman and jumped back in the river. I continued on up to the jetty before turning around to head home. As we approached the area where the 4 dogs were swimming, the man had pulled his Ute up on the roadway next to the reserve and was attempting to get all 4 dogs to recall from the river where the dogs were, still with the lady. We held back around 50 metres to wait until the 4 dogs were clear of the park. 2 of the dogs went directly to the Ute and jumped on the back. 2 failed to recall. One raced about 50 metres in the opposite direction to where the couple was still sitting on the grass eating take away food. The dog failed to recall to the woman and the couple were forced to stand up with their food while the dog bounced around and shook water all over them. While this was happening the other dog still on the reserve spotted me and my dog and made a beeline for us. In an attempt to protect my dog I got down on my knees to protect him and yelled loudly “No” and “stop” at the dog coming towards us. It failed to recall and started menacing my dog, by which time it was joined by the dog who had been harassing the couple with the food. I also yelled at the second dog as it sped towards us. I was fairly confident the dogs were not actually savage, but my dog was not to know that as 2 dogs 8 times his size bounced around and menaced him. The man at the Ute with their other 2 dogs made it quite clear what he thought of me yelling at his loose out of control dogs and kept yelling at me that they were friendly, I tried to make it clear to him that this was not the point and that his 2 out of control dogs had managed to upset 3 other park users and my small dog, who remained by my side under control at all times. At no time did I strike out or attempt to strike away these dogs. I yelled at them and I yelled at their owners. At no time did they produce anything that looked like a lead, and lost control of 2 of the dogs on 2 occasions. Once the dogs finally recalled to the Ute parked on the roadway, the man once again yelled at me for yelling at his unleashed uncontrolled dogs. At this point I yelled back at him that it’s not good enough to stand 50 metres away and yell at people that your dogs are friendly, as they bounce around and menace people and other dogs. At which point they drove off with all 4 dogs unrestrained on the back of the Ute. As he drove off one was actually standing on the top of a silver toolbox on the side of the tray of the Ute well above the roof level! 
These 4 dogs all reside at 00 xyz Rd. I’m not exactly sure how they are allowed to have 4 of them in a residential yard. 

I’m not sure if or what can be done about this. As you can see, we all live fairly close to each other. This is not the first time I’ve seen them out and about not under particularly effective control. 
If my dog had of taken fright at these dogs rushing towards us on the park  and lost his nerve and bolted, the result may not have been as good. And who could have blamed him. He doesn’t know if these dogs are friendly, despite their owners yelling it repeatedly across the park! 
I probably would not have taken the time to submit this complaint if it hadn’t been for the attitude of the owner, chastising me, for attempting to ward of his dog by yelling loudly at them! 
And for the possibility of running into them again. I should not have to change where I walk my dog, which is directly across the road from where we live. 

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And I have two council supplied bag stations along our daily walk so I top up a couple of extra from them most days too

13 minutes ago, Snoopy2446 said:

Hello. I put up a post today about Lovan for my dog - he stresses from thunderstorms and fireworks, loud noises etc and I stress about him but after reading your post,  why don't you try that? Apparently its supposed to aid with dogs that have anxiety issues etc. My dog is practically a zombie at the moment........ I think Lovan might help. Please forgive my ignorance but what is PTS?

 

PTS = Put to sleep

The breeds in development requires a breed standard to be drawn up, and an open stud book of dogs most similar to that standard. Generations of dogs are bred from this foundation stock. The standard may be amended, and the stud book open for some time. At some point, the progeny will be deemed acceptable to the standard. And from there on it’s up to breeders to breed from the progeny to produce dogs as close as possible to the written standard. 

Like all breeds, yes, cross breeds and breed types, will be used as foundation stock. These dogs have pedigrees (for example, Banksia Park Molly x ACA Fred)  just not what we accept as pure breed pedigrees. During the process of a breed in development, appointed judges inspect the dogs put forward as foundation stock, and the progeny, and after a certain number of generations, and under the strict judgement of judges appointed by the ANKC, the progeny will get full registration and a pedigree under the new breed name. 

Its a long and exhausting process that turns randomly bred stock, into a recognisable, standardised, predictable breed. 

It’s not for the faint hearted, but for those truly dedicated to turning a randomly bred type, into an officially recognised breed. 

There will  always be randomly bred dogs with blended labels. Recognising breeds in development won’t put an end to that. What it will do is give potential buyers an option to choose a predictable, recognisable standardised animal with a breed name, a written standard, pedigree papers, bred by truly dedicate s breeders with their breed at the centre of their ideals. Breeders that will be limited by the umbrella of the ANKC. 

Oh I agree there are so many types of oodly mutts and I’d guess the majority of breeders don’t even think about themselves as ever being ‘like those show dogs’ , but there are a few pockets of breeders in there amongst them that are making sounds about standardisation and pedigree registry. If the KC looked at helping those that want it, maybe just maybe, with time, others would come on board too. I see more benfit especially for animal welfare, but also for the buyer, in having the willing ones come and join the pedigree fold.

What I mean is in the instance of a few of these oodle types, there is a push from within their circle to work towards becoming recognised breeds. The Kennel Club would not be accepting cross breeds, they would be accepting a breed in development with all the scrutiny and stringent guidelines that brings, and after quite a lengthy and well established process, out comes a standardised recognised breed at the other end, with all the benefits that brings in adhering to the kennel clubs codes of pracrice, and ensure buyers are best informed and receive a health tested animal bred with the best of intentions. 

Sadly the kennel clubs, or perhaps moreover, their members,  seem to shun these people wanting to step up to the breeds in development program

An example of this is the type that was once  widely  known as ‘toy fox terrier’, went through the breeds in development process, and out the other end came the fully recognised breed Tenterfield Terrier. 

Think about oother Australian Breeds. They were developed since Australia was born, and are relatively modern breeds, that we developed and then recognised. I don’t see what the issue is developing more. 

These oodle types are wildly popular with the public and I think the kennel club is just dumb to turn their back on this potential for new interest in the pedigree dog arena. 

Eta..... so we have a situation where the oodle can be pushed through as breed in development and held to the same breeding ethics and standards as other pedigree dogs, or we can alienate their breeders to the fringes where the dogs will be mass produced in puppy factories industry style. I know which route would be infinitely better option for people and dogs.

Hey moosmum I know I’ve told you before but I for one appreciate the effort you go to to try to break through and explain this. 

I guess if if I could say it in a short post in layman’s terms, I’d say that history tells us what happens to institutions who don’t adapt to contemporary conditions and embrace change, and that in my opinion, the kennel clubs have nothing to lose by embracing these dogs from the fringes, but a lot to lose if they don’t.

I think one of the biggest issue hindering rescue is that rescue for the most part is viewed, and somewhat views itself, as some sort of bleeding heart charity. 

Successful business models & professional management practices need to be adopted & adhered to, despite how unpalatable that seems to people. 

Less heart, more head, I believe is what pets actually need in the long run. 

http://wixxyleaks.com/howl-pet-industry-lobbyist-caught-out-lying/

18 minutes ago, karen15 said:

it just shows people aren't interested in stopping puppy farming. Boutique dogs - give me a break. Expensive mongrels. The subsequent article says the business plans to invite breeders to visit the facility to give them training and show them a benchmark level of care - for want of a better summary. You have to be kidding me.

The problem is that regular Jill and John pet buyer going in to Kellyville or other pet stores supplied by the puppy farms are, quite truthfully told, that these puppies come from ‘registered breeders’. Knowing no better, Jill and John can’t distinguish between the types of registered breeder on offer these days. They walk away with a puppy from a registered breeder, a facility that meets all the requirement, standards and licensing and ‘ registration’  and is completely lawful. 

Powerlegs hit hit the nail with this post. No body is interested in fighting the good fight. Because moral rarely trumps legal.

its ironic that the “war on puppy farms” has just led to, ummm, .....puppy farms.

2 hours ago, Powerlegs said:

Nobody with the authority is interested in closing places that don't break the POCTAA and local council bylaws.  So if you build a nice shiny facility within the welfare recommendations/Acts you are free to keep and breed as many as your permit allows without anything to stop you. 
It was inevitable given the grotty places are being closed/raided, the industry still needs livestock to sell. 

There’s one word in there that should disturb pet lovers & ethical dog breeders everywhere...... INDUSTRY. Slowly but surely they eroding the public’s perspective to believe that dog breeding should be an Industry.  Not about actual sentient beings anymore, just an industry treated like any other industry. 
Don’t let dog breeding turn into an industry, only to find later we need to lobby for ‘improvements to industry standards’ etc, like we do with other farmed animals......HOW ABOUT WE JUST DONT LET DOG BREEDING BECOME A FARMING INDUSTRY IN THE FIRST PLACE!

I cannot for the life of me understand why me fellow dog groomers still support the PIAA through membership, attending trade shows and entering competitions. I’ve begged them to try to really understand what the PIAA stand for in regards to dog breeding. My groomer friends universally decry puppy farming, but then go and compete at a PIAA event. 

Im trying to walk the talk, and from now on I’m even going to be asking my suppliers if they are members. 

1 hour ago, shel said:

"Major donor, Supporter and Bequest assistance"

Is his new title. Also, he's the CEO's brother.

 

 

Oh ffs what is it with animal orgs feathering their own nests with vested interests. Puppyfarm Pet Industry Assoc Of Australia springs to mind 

It it really grinds my gears. 

6 hours ago, Mjosa said:

About two months ago another of my grandsons and his partner adopted this beautiful Kelpie from the RSPCA, his name is Walt and he is travelling Australia in a motorhome with them, they were lucky to get him, as when they visited the RSPCA to look at dogs they took the wrong turn to go out and ended up where the dogs that were not ready for adoption, needing vet work done, and spotted him, this poor boy had been very badly treated by his former owner and had been at the pound for three months, the three of them are just so lucky because of the wrong turn taken to get out of the pound that day.

Wow that’s almost the exact thing that helped me get Tits by chance from the RSPCA at Lonsdale earlier this year. It’s almost 2 hrs drive for me so I was getting there as often as I could. They will not hold a dog that you’ve looked at online, they will only hold once you have seen the dog in person, which I guess is fair enough, but makes things hard when you see a potential match online and 2 hrs later they’re gone every time. So I went this day and saw all the usual suspects, Staffy mix, working dog mix, a sprinkling of nondescript Med to large mixes, and a couple of ‘foxies’ of course no small fluffies. So I stopped a staff member and asked we’re these the only dogs and what I was looking for. She says, actually there is a little guy out the back that must be due up the front soon, paged for a staff member to bring him up, and although I had to wait 2 weeks for him, I was able to have first hold on him, as I’d actually met him. If I’d never spoken up I might still be looking. Tits has fitted in beyond my expectations, he’s a true treasure. He was chipped so I know his birthday. He turned 7 this week. 

I want a companion for him now and come up against all mannner of roadblocks trying to get the right dog out of rescue, even looking nationally. 

The first thing I would do is consult your vet. Especially to check for ear infection, foreign body in ear, dental examination for any infection or abscess or broken teeth, and check for anything like muscle wastage around the head area. Any of these things could contribute to a change of earset in an adult dog. Even things like a grass seed abscess in the mouth, face, or even the eye pocket. 

Even a nasty bump to the head might cause it, but I’d get a thorough examination inside and out around the head, mouth & ears. 

Bloody snakes. I don’t even want to talk about the loss and heartbreak they’ve caused me & my dogs.

Tonight walking our regular walk across the road we spotted a 4 ft brown on the grass slither into the reeds when it felt us coming. What can I do. Nowhere is truly safe around here. I’ve seen at least 3 in & around my yard in the last couple of years.  A few months ago a snake catcher removed a snake from the footpath in the Main Street! 

Tits turns 7 today. He was microchipped so I know he was born 10/10/10. 

47 minutes ago, kamuzz said:

Why is chopping them out bad?

Chopping them out isn't really so bad for the coat, it's only hair, it usually grows back in pretty well........but us groomers see so many home groomed dogs with all manner of injury from owners trying to chop knots out. Often owners don't keep the skin taught so the skin bunches up into the cutting instrument, or they pull the knot up and don't realise they've pulled the skin up with it, resulting in a particularly nasty wound....and often the owner doesn't understand how easy it is to cut fine areas like armpits, flanks, ears etc. 

Im not into excessive dematting which can really upset a dog and cause brush burns or injuries from blades de matting tools/ rakes  

If the coat is really matted up the most humane course is to clip the hair off at the level of new growth underneath  the matting, best done by an experienced groomer if the owner doesn't have quality tools/clippers or the experience to use them safely

honestly over the years I have seen some heartbreaking injuries inflicted by loving owners with the best of intentions