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:laugh: oh m-j I can picture this so clearly! So sorry about Boof, he was a lucky dog to have you xx

My favourite Neil moment was when we had both been dumped in a Group lineup and he held his hand out to me and said, "Come, my dear, the dregs shall leave the ring with their heads held high!" and royally escorted me from the ring.

I can just picture him doing that

LOL yes me too!!!

Today the world lost a wonderful man.

Neil Weeks brought the Basset Fauve De Bretagne to Australia but also showed Standard Smooth Dachshund and Whippets. He was a fierce competitor in the ring but a generous and loving man outside of it. Without him I would never have become an exhibitor or a breeder and I'm not the only one to say that. He entrusted me with a Fauve when there were only 7 in the country - at the time I truly didn't recognise the enormity of that gift - a main registered bitch in my own name for the price of a pet. He taught me that you have to trust people, even if they may do the wrong thing in the future, because you never know which "show occasionally" home may turn into a guardian of the breed. But more than anything else he taught me kindness, generosity and forgiveness.

Love you big time Neil.

Only one of my dogs is afraid of storms, my old JRT boy Mac. I owned his half-brother as well and he was also frightened of storms. I used to be worried that Mac's fear would pass to my Fauves but even the ones who have grown up with him as part of their lives ignore storms.

I voted yes but not for the reason you provided.

I currently care for my daughter's Cav and have done for 3 years (fingers crossed he is moving to Melbourne very, very soon as she looked at a pet friendly place today). I live rurally, we have a lot of grass & grass seeds and we were having issues with them. He also has a lot of coat and I simply don't have the time to care for it that she did. It is much simpler for him to be clipped in my house - I wouldn't choose to own a Cavalier myself because of my current time constraints due to the other animals who live with me.

As the topic says - how much do you allow when you own multiple dogs?

I normally allow a few barks before I head out with the hose and tell them to shut-up to avoid neighbour complaints (even though we are semi-rural we still have neighbours and I don't want to disturb them) but I think I'm a bit OTT. What do you personally consider acceptable?

So we are back from the vet and he is on a week's crate rest with anti-inflammatories to see how he goes. He is acting like it is a slipped patella but his patella is perfectly in place. It might be a tear in his cruciate that is not severe enough to stop him weight bearing all the time, it may be simply a muscle strain. She saw what he is doing, we put him out in the backyard and watched him but he is in her words "a weird little dog" :laugh:

I felt it wasn't fair on 3 puppies as I knew I simply wouldn't have the time that I do for two puppies. My daughter is only 8 but she and I work very closely with our dogs and we can work with two, to do three properly in our family requires another person and we didn't have that. I ONLY kept three because I had two litters close together and all three pups were lovely and I couldn't choose.

So is it easily fixed if it is patella luxation? Never had it in one of my own

I haven't fiddled with his knee because he is in pain and I feel mean... :laugh: Poor little guy, he is so good natured and easy going and, even though he does my head in and I can't wait until he moves back to my daughter's house, I really hate to see him in pain as he is always so good.

Will see what the vet says tomorrow.

We live rurally and there isn't a vet open in our area on a weekend unless it is an emergency, which this is not, BUT he will be going tomorrow.

My daughter's Cavalier lives with us and today, out of nowhere, can't walk on his rear right leg at all for times and then can put weight on it, screams in pain when he can't walk on it and is just otherwise not his normal self. He is 7 years old - surely if he had a luxating patella we would have noticed it before this??? Can it just come out of nowhere like this? Obviously another issue is his cruciate and I take it that can just go out of nowhere? He literally was fine until he stood up in his crate this morning when we let him out and started screaming. Nothing at all until that moment, then it settled and we thought he must have slept on it funny or something as he was running around with the other dogs just fine. Then 90 minutes later when he came back inside the same thing, screaming and no weight bearing. This afternoon slight weight bearing but not normal. ETA have left a message to talk to his breeder but she is away.

Well done, that is fabulous :)

Have recently kept three BUT sent one to a friend and kept a boy & girl. They sleep together normally but will happily sleep apart also. If one is left behind it is left with other dogs and vice versa.

So proud of you Gillybob, and Cedro of course. YOu both did great on your first ever show!

I'm no fan of prolonging life for the sake of it but my concern is that many posters in this thread were making a judgement that IN THIS CASE the pup should have been euthed - full stop no questions asked. If it were me making the decision I'd like to think I'd make it in the best interests of the animal and with compassion in mind. I don't feel I have enough information about the animal, its carers, or its prospects for life enjoyment to presume that death is the best outcome for this animal IN THIS CASE. Maybe you all have information beyond this thread that sheds more light in the situation?

As Dyzney said - we are all entitled to our opinions. My opinion is that we shouldn't be so quick to judge about matters of life and death when we don't have all the facts at hand.

For me, who ran a large all-breeds rescue for 6 years and who is now a breeder, euthanising this pup at birth would be based on compassion. I would be very sad to have to pts BUT firmly believe that a dog, designed to walk on 4 legs, having to walk on only two (when they are two front or two rear) is cruel because of the damage that will be caused to the dog's spine and the pain that it would be in as a result. Dogs will wag their tails and look happy when in quite severe pain - the pain MUST be taken into consideration IMO.

I saw a video of a border collie/huntaway in NZ with only two legs. It was a feel good segment at the end of the news. He lost them through accidents on the farm. He had one front and the opposite rear remaining. He could still go up into the hills and round up sheep.

:) that's very different .. he was still able to be independent and to walk/run comfortably ..as a dog ... with his back parallel to the ground . Good for him!

Yep agree, very different.

Yes I must admit that the idea of a registered breeder allowing a dog to be bred from when it is in that physical state is abhorrent. I expect so much more from a registered breeder.

I got 24/25 for the puppies - I gave up as I knew that there was no way I was going to pick the only one I didn't know - could have knocked me over with a feather when I read what it was as I have raised a number of them and it must be about 3 weeks old in the bloody picture!

Oh please, can't I have a cuddle?

Sure can - I love to show them off!

Thanks poocow! Will I see you there, at the Xmas shows in Canberra?

If that is Junior Kennel Club you will see me and my babies

Oooh babies, I'm so finding you so I can get cuddles :D

I shall look forward to it, as will they :laugh:

Do any of the rescues up there have a mum and kittens of a similar age who may take her on? That will be the best possible option. If you were closer I'd say to bring her to me as I have an older desexed female who takes on all baby kittens - once they arrive she starts cleaning them and then develops milk and feeds them. She is awesome.

Yep all the research I did (mainly overseas with Fauve breeders) and consultation with my vet indicated that there was not enough evidence to show that a bitch should be removed due to it. I would have thought it was genetic I would have had more in the litter of 8 as that was a line breeding.

Thanks poocow! Will I see you there, at the Xmas shows in Canberra?

If that is Junior Kennel Club you will see me and my babies

I was given a bitch with an umbilical hernia. Her first litter was born and raised at my house and was born by c-section - one pup had an umbilical hernia. She had a second litter with 7 surviving pups also by c-section, none had an umbilical hernia.

Wow, okay so you're serious. I'm gobsmacked as I wouldn't have ever thought it possible. As it is serious, no I don't think that you could rehome him somewhere where you come and go. It would be incredibly cruel to your dog, not to mention impossible for you AND your friends who will love your dog.

If you must move to a place where he can't go then you will do best by him to rehome him permanently (ie without contact).

I'm sorry that you're in this position.