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reddog21

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  1. Why is the mouthing issue a problem for you ? Have you had puppies before?

    This sounds about normal for most dogs. What training are you giving them? If you go to the Training forum you will see some helpful training under teh ' NILIF and "'Triangle of Temptation' threads.

    Two puppies will be a handful, what do you want to happen for the future for these dogs and your life together?

  2. I've seen K9 Force demonstrate these collars and I was very impressed.

    I know everybody is after a good deal but I couldn't understand why someone would buy a training device like this through the mail. I would imagine that part of the training would require backup from an accredited expert, even a phone call if necessary.

    I don't think you can learn about these aids from just a book or instruction manual alone.

  3. I am the owner of large dogs. I started training my bitch, who I got at 8 weeks, with an all breeds dog club who used only 'positive rewards'. Training progressed slowly for about 12 months, however, I still didn't have a failsafe stay or recall and she was prone to lurching unexpectedly.

    I tried various collars, check chains, Gentle Leader and Sporn collars and all were either dangerous in as much as they could cause damage to the dog (Gentle leader) downright useless ( Sporn) or needed massive amounts of pressure to get effect ( Check Chain).

    At 18 months I wasn't progressing with my obedience training and took my girl along to a private trainer, K9 Force, who introduced me to the Prong collar. The dog immediately settled into the tool and was walking comfortably beside me in a matter of minutes.

    The Prong allows the dog to choose what is going to happen as far as the amount of correction that will be required and provides guidance for the animal. Since we have been training with the Prong my bitch is enthusiastic to get the collar on, walks at heel and has a stable stay and recall. There is virtually no effort required to guide her and definately no use of high pressure as required with a check chain.

    I took a show dog on who was 18 months old and had been shunted around to different foster homes after his owners divorced. This dog had a bit of fear aggression at first but settled down after a couple of weeks with me. Being a show dog he had no Obedience training but as I require all my dogs to have obedience training I put him straight into a Prong collar.

    This dog was a very trim 50 kg with an attitude that he knew what he wanted. We started simply and, again, within minutes was walking at heel. He was also a very intelligent dog and within weeks we had a steady down stay, sit stay, come, return to heel and stand as well as stand for examination.

    I did have some problems with him lurching at other dogs when out in public when we first started but the Prong enabled me to quickly bring him back to heel even with 50Kgs of dog bouncing at the end of the lead.

    In the 3 years I have been using the Prong I have found them to be gentle, safe and effective. The dogs seem to like them and never shy away and are relaxed and receptive during training.

    Because these training tools are not allowed on Dogs NSW controlled grounds I revert to a Martingale collar on these occasions but I will always use the Prong collar when training.

    I have found that my dogs are far more stable than other big dogs especially when put under pressure of different environments or unexpected challenges and I put this down to the effectiveness and reliability of training with a Prong collar. I take my bitch to pet expos to meet the public and she is happy to shake hands, do tricks and be cuddled by children without any concern and I put this down to her training.

  4. I didn't think this thread would be still going. Craig's name was mentioned to me by a friend and I hadn't heard of him. I now know he is/ was Queensland based.

    JJ under no circumstances would I bring into disrepute the name of any trainer, especially one I have not met or trained under. I was interested in some training he did with the NSW RSPCA on assessments.

    Thanks for the original link.

  5. I must add that I attended the course as well and learned a great deal. Especially from the Trainers point when they are approached by owners with a long list of particular problems and the trainer has to identify the type of behaviour being exhibited and structure a direction for future training of the dog.

    Steve also put a lot of time into the handling day and helped us to understand a lot about the art of dog handling. There was also a very informative session on Ecollars and understanding their use both in behaviour and agility training.

    Thanks to Erny and Jane who gave up their time to talk to us.

    I would urge anyone who wants to understand more about dog behaviour to get onto the mailing list as most courses are booked out within hours of being posted.

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