oakway

Ring around the vets and find out who has an account with Hemopet.

I was told the blood had to be spun down. As I have said before I use a vet that does it all. I just turn up with the dog.

Forgot to say my last test was under a $200 but the dollar was better then.

During the one of the American wars (Independence/civil ?) it was noted that dogs that licked the soldiers wounds were the ones that healed quicker and better.

Sydney Royal Results Page.

http://www.myras.com.au/res/results/ResultsSearch.aspx?Type=All

Thank you for the reply. Does your vet just take the bloods and you send them off? I saw IDEXX has an Aus site so I thought we may now be able to do the complete test here but if not I will look into Jean Dodds. I want every thyroid test possible as its apparently very common in Dobermanns and normal TSH tests/T4 tests dont pick it up.

We are told that the test done at Hemopet is far more extensive. I use a vet in Qld that does everything. I just have to turn up with the dog. :)

We are breeders and we don't have a crystal ball. If we did all the pups we keep would be BIS winners and not the disappointments at 9 nine months or after and have to be placed in forever pet homes. :)

Sorry, not after two years.

I only use Jean Dodd's at Hemopet in the USA. The lab does by far, more intensive tests than the ones done in Aust. I haven't had one Thyroid tested for several years now so maybe things have changed in Aus.

I only use Jean Dodd's at Hemopet in the USA. The lab does by far, more intensive tests than the ones done in Aust. I haven't had one Thyroid tested for several years now so maybe things have changed in Aus.

Mine get fed mince balls from 3 weeks of age and after a few days of this they get added soaked dry food mixed in with their mince. The bitch is removed from the pups at 6 weeks.

This is the standard Australia uses for the Cairn Terrier. This is the standard that is used to judge by. By any chance could you be reading a standard that is used by another country, or just someone's interpretation of the standard.

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The OP is referring to this page: My link, the DOL breed information page.

Thanks for that, I am pretty sure I get the gist of it now.

This is the standard Australia uses for the Cairn Terrier. This is the standard that is used to judge by. By any chance could you be reading a standard that is used by another country, or just someone's interpretation of the standard.

Group 2 (Terriers)

History:

General Appearance:

Agile, alert, of workmanlike, natural appearance. Standing well forward on forepaws. Strong quarters. Deep in rib, very free in movement. Weather-resistant coat.

Characteristics:

Should impress as being active, game and hardy.

Temperament:

Fearless and gay disposition; assertive but not aggressive.

Head And Skull:

Head small, but in proportion to body. Skull broad; a decided indentation between the eyes with a definite stop. Muzzle powerful, jaw strong but not long or heavy. Nose black. Head well furnished.

Eyes:

Wide apart, medium in size, dark hazel. Slightly sunk with shaggy eyebrows.

Ears:

Small, pointed, well carried and erect, not too closely set nor heavily coated.

Mouth:

Large teeth. Jaws strong with perfect, regular and complete scissor bite, i.e. upper teeth closely overlapping lower teeth and set square to the jaws.

Neck:

Well set on, not short .

Forequarters:

Sloping shoulders, medium length of leg, good but not too heavy bone. Forelegs never out at elbow. Legs covered with harsh hair.

Body:

Back level, medium length. Well sprung deep ribs; strong supple loin.

Hindquarters:

Very strong muscular thighs. Good, but not excessive, bend of stifle. Hocks well let down, inclining neither in nor out when viewed from the rear.

Feet:

Forefeet, larger than hind, may be slightly turned out. Pads thick and strong. Thin, narrow or spreading feet and long nails objectionable.

Tail:

Short, balanced, well furnished with hair but not feathery. Neither high nor low set, carried gaily but not turned down towards back.

Gait/Movement:

Very free-flowing stride. Forelegs reaching well forward. Hindlegs giving strong propulsion. Hocks neither too close nor too wide.

Coat:

Very important. Weather-resistant. Must be double-coated, with profuse, harsh, but not coarse, outer coat; undercoat short, soft and close. Open coats objectionable. Slight wave permissible.

Colour:

Cream, wheaten, red, grey or nearly black. Brindling in all these colours acceptable. Not solid black, or white, or black and tan. Dark points, such as ears and muzzle, very typical.

Sizes:

Height: approx. 28-31 cms (11-12 ins) at withers, but in proportion to weight. Weight: ideally 6-7.5 kg (14-16 lbs).

Faults:

Any departure from the foregoing points should be considered a fault and the seriousness with which the fault should be regarded should be in exact proportion to its degree and its effect upon the health and welfare of the dog.

Notes:

Male animals should have two apparently normal testicles fully descended into the scrotum

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It is not necessarily always scent that makes them go to the one spot in many cases it may be habit. If you don't want a use a certain area always take it to the area you want it to use. Good luck.

Why don't you just scoop it up and then straight into the toilet then its all flushed away.

Just an update.. we got the procedure done and it went so well ! We are all much happier now, including my chi who had it done as now we Are not constantly yelling at her If anyone needs details of the vet, just PM me. I highly recommend him !

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Some litters seem more forward than others.

I read an article many moon ago that said puppies open their eyes X amount of days after conception not necessarily after birth.

Do you mean an assistance dog or a therapy dog - big difference in the work they do and how they are trained

Do you need a dog to be with you and hang out with and love you as you love it or do you need a dog that will pick things up for you turn on light switches ,take your washing out of the machine etc ?

I think that's what I was trying to say earlier. :)

What do you actually want the dog to assist you with ?.

Depending on what your needs are it may depict the breed you will need.

Why not do this if you are concerned about the dog not traveling well. Before you leave for the boat drop your dog off at your favourite shippers to be flown to Tasmania the next day. The dog is only crated for a few hours and takes the stress out it for both of you.

I use what suits the dogs coat best not what I would like to. :) It can take many brands to find out what suits best.

A little off topic maybe //but why are whelping boxes rectangular , when dogs are curved?

working sheepdog bitches whelp usually in clean sand , where they dig a hollow . Puppies will always roll to the centre , and there are rarely squashed ones , or ones who cannot access the bitch's warmth/milk .

Yes your quite right about having a circular one and also concave. Only problem as far as I am aware they have to be imported and at great expense. They also come with in built heating.

I think the cheaper option is, as previously suggested, a clam shell pool and then buy a heat pad. I prefer to have one section warm and part of it not heated so they can crawl off the heat if they want to. If I ever breed another litter this is what I think I will go for.

sounds a good plan ... I was thinking of something like a papasan Chair - you remember ? those cane half sphere things - gorgeous to sit in - impossible to get out of ? LOL

aaah yes those were the days, when we were young and lithe and slim...........and we still couldn't get out of the damn things! :laugh:

LOL!! That's it!

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A little off topic maybe //but why are whelping boxes rectangular , when dogs are curved?

working sheepdog bitches whelp usually in clean sand , where they dig a hollow . Puppies will always roll to the centre , and there are rarely squashed ones , or ones who cannot access the bitch's warmth/milk .

Yes your quite right about having a circular one and also concave. Only problem as far as I am aware they have to be imported and at great expense. They also come with in built heating.

thanks, I had to go out today and I didn't dare leave them unattended, even though I've rolled blankets up and put them behind the rails. My friend came down to puppy sit, I dont think she minded though, the puppies got plenty of cuddles.

That's about all you can do. I'm afraid it may be a couple of rough weeks for you. All the best for the litter and you.

Oakway I know that Scourban is pink but so is the Peptosyl that I get from my vet.

Scourban is too drastic for young puppies that is why he prescribes Peptosyl which as I said before is also pink.

My Peptosyl was white but came from the chemist not the vet. I was just concerned that you may have been given scourban instead of Peptosyl.

Which chemist sells Peptopsyl? I asked chemist & they don't sell any ant acid medication with Bismuth Salicylate in it.....

The vet didn't have it he told me to go to the chemist and get it. ????? was a few years back now. But I kept it in the fridge for a couple of years. I never had any further use for it so I threw it out.

I won't use a whelping box without them. :)

It depends on what type of rails you have fitted. Round rails I find the pups stick their head through and get caught when older and now I use the solid rails with no problems. Also depends where the rails are positioned for the individual breed.

Now I am not being critical here, but why was the bitch not up on her feet and investigating the crying ? I only ask because the slightest noise and my bitches are up on their feet investigating. Could the bitch be tired after whelping and be in such a deep sleep that she didn't wake. Hope you have solved the problem because no breeder wants this sort of problem.

You'd have to ask her this question. Both times she was awake. With the most recent mishap she actually did try to move but as she did she was pressing on the puppys neck even more. It was just lucky I was there and able to push her head down and release the pup.

My whippet Penny was the same though, she'd be laying on a puppy and it was squealing and she'd just lay there. I was the one who'd have to rescue it. You're lucky your girls are more responsive.

Just wishing you all the best and looks as though you will have to be ever vigilant with her. Looks as though you may be in for a bit of a rough few weeks.