Gottalovealab

I haven't visited this site for many a year, but I felt it only necessary to post my sad news here. I don't know how many of the old DOL crew lurk around here, some may remember my boy.

Yesterday, I made the hardest decision of my life and while I knew it was inevitable, didn't make what I had to do any easier.

Yesterday, the sun set on Kobi's life, my friend and constant companion for the past 14 years. The hole that has been left in my heart cannot be described with words and it will take me a long time to come to the realisation he is not here anymore.

He greeted every one he met with a wagging tail and pure happiness, something he did until the very end.

Hi all,

I am the proud owner of an American Pit Bull Terrier (probably) and a dingo/cream kelpie/corgi cross (perhaps). Fortunately, I live in Western Australia and so I can enjoy my dogs without having to worry about some nasty little Nazi ranger with a chip on both shoulders accusing me of owning "dangerous dogs".

Me, I'd think that any "dingo cross" could realistically be registered as a "kelpie cross". The kelpie has a big dose of dingo blood (some would say a majority dose).

How "dingoey" (if that is a word, Esky the husky) does it look? Who gives a rat's arse? If it looks like a dingo, it looks like a sort of kelpie. Therefore it is an Aussie icon dog and no government (state or federal) would have the guts to legislate against it. Not even Tony Abbot would be stupid enough to ban "red dog". OK, I am not too sure about the preceding sentence; Tony has demonstrated serious stupidity on a major scale and on the world wide stage. Tony is currently a bit of an embarrassment for us Aussies. Bring back Julia; at least she had the decency to believe what she said. Tony however is totally false (like all his ministers). Tony makes Clive look like a statesman.

ricey (ducking for cover; the Tony fan club is going to be quite upset). But again, who gives a rat's arse? Not me, and certainly not Clive Palmer or Helen Milne

Also the OP asked if it was illegal to have a dingo in SA and the answer is yes. Regardless of what breed you could pretend it is. So there is always inherent risks of bringing one in.

Oh come on... That's far from helpful.

Thought there is a school of thought that premature desexing of large breed dogs can be very detrimental to their correct growth?

There is.

But there is also the school of thought to do it very early on in puppyhood. People are not always as informed about dogs and puppies as we are.

Nothing to add re HD and ED but if it ends up being these things, contact the breeder to let them know. If they are a reputable breeder, they would be deeply concerned to see it crop up in their lines.

Harsh Clover. Tesslc is on a steep learning curve with this litter (there is a history you may or may not be aware of). She is trying hard to do things right and saying something she's doing is stupid doesn't help anyone.

Regardless of the history, I would still adivse to keep her for a couple of weeks longer. Unless there is a really good reason to be taking them away, it shouldn't be done period.

Steep learning curve is right, but now that you have them you need to do it right, which is keeping them until 8 weeks.

I think time is a huge factor in showing you are a prospect for a show dog. Getting to know people around the breed of your choice and just giving your time to go to shows, just to watch them, shows you are enthusiastic about the whole thing. This also gives you time to develop a little bit of an eye of what you like to see in your breed, especially if you are looking at dog profiles/different types already.

Be prepared to wait!! You don't get a pup overnight. Besides, this gives you more time to understand your breed and the confusing sport that is dog shows :laugh:

As myself as an example, I don't show anymore (haven't the time or money for it at the moment) and haven't been to a show in quite a while, but I have made great friends with most of the lab people in my state ( and some interstate as well). I know that when I eventually go back to it, I won't have trouble with purchasing a prospect. Its the time I took to show I was enthusiastic about the breed that allowed me to in the first place.

It's very nice that the police 'are taking this matter seriously' and that 'a professional standards investigation is ongoing'. They also state the matter is 'subject to an ongoing internal investigation' but what are they actually investigating? How many investigations do they require? They've seen the CCTV footage. They've got the proof they need.

And the other two officers who were seen on the footage to be laughing while the moron was recording the dog in distress and then threw a stick at it. Are they not accomplices to an illegal act? Will they be charged?

This must not be swept under the carpet.

This makes me think this will just be swept under the carpet and a 'don't do that again' slap on the wrist.

I wouldn't be surprised if we don't hear anything from it again, in the hopes people forget about it.

At 4 months of age with the symptoms you describe I wouldn't be too concerned, unless he shows lameness or pain. He still has a lot of growing to do, but if you are worried, take him to the vet for a checkup.

There is no way I would not take a dog back of my own breeding, would do it without a second thought and i would assume ( and know) ethical breeders would do exactly the same.

Thinking breeders can take on rescue dogs that are their breed or 'look like their breed' is unrealistic. They shouldn't be 'expected' to, their own personal circumstances might not warrant it.

To the OP, it sounds like you've had a rough time with it all lately, which in rescue i can understand, but maybe take a step back and realise what is trying to be said.

Edited to add, I think you need to realise that quite a few posts in here are not from breeders and many are of the same opinion. I have not bred a litter, but i can understand where breeders are coming from.

I understand her concern about the ducks, but wow, just stopping in the lane on a highway??

It is illegal to keep Dingoes south of the Dingo fence i believe. I would assume this includes crosses and hybrids as well.

http://www.dogandcatboard.com.au/can-i-own-a-dingo-in-south-australia

It took me a while to find this quote but I think it very relevant with all of the discussion about "type" and what people prefer or like.

It's a good reminder for the novice and the seasoned breeder alike.

There is but ONE standard. “Preferred breed type” is like a flavor of the month, very fleeting! BREEDERS, JUDGES AND EXHIBITORS HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT THEIR BREED STANDARDS

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There is but one breed standard if you judge by 'conformation'. Some people judge their dogs by something other than conformation, eg, performance, temperament, health, movement. Technically, the breed standard covers temperament and movement, but the ring doesn't provide an great forum for evaluation and these things sometimes get put in the 'too hard basket'. Not to judge the judges. I couldn't evaluate 10+ dogs in 5 minutes, as often happens in the ring. And if I were a blind person relying on a Labrador, I would not care if it has strong retrieving instinct or was a good water dog. I might hope it has a 'poor' coat by breed standards so the dog would have better tolerance of heat ... and shed a little less.

With respect to Labradors, I'm happy there's a great variety. I think it's healthy for the breed. The original purpose of the dog -- landed gentry's fetch dog, or before that 'dog that catches fish that have slipped off an unbarbed hook and is also good for some game hunting, pulling carts, etc.' -- is long gone. I love the breed and am happy to see it move into Guide Dog and drug sniffing work. I can see that some of the traits in the original purpose become irrelevant in the new purposes.

It's the carping that bothers me. I get p.o.'d when someone tries to slander a dog as fat when they have no evidence of fat . . . may just be a well boned, heavyset dog with a thick coat.

But this is the thing, regardless of how judges in the ring judge, the breed standard reverts back the original function of the breed. The breed standard may not specifically point out performance, but the way the dog is conformed and thus, the way the breed standard is set out, does. Unfortunately many judges and breeders decide to disregard the standard and go for 'fads'.

It is the responsibility of not just the breeder, but the potential owner as well to understand that. To hope that your Labrador ' has a poor coat by breed standards because I don't want it to shed as much' is silly. Surely you would just go for another breed? It it's true that a blind person wouldn't care, but where the dog comes from ( the breeder) would and that is what keeps the Labrador being a Labrador.

The fact that they are great at drug work and seeing eye and all of those things is because of the gundog traits, again going back the original function of the dog and group itself. They are and were bred to work with the handler.

Oh no, this is so sad

run free Grotty.

Haven't been on here in a long time, but my heart sank when isaw this also. I am sorry to hear Ollie has passed on

My condolences are with you.

hey guys,

I have a room booked at the Gisborne motel for the nights of Fri, Sat, Sun and Mon. I was planning on coming over for the Sunbury shows but are unable to. It is a single room so sleeps one i believe and obviously they allow dogs. This place is booked out well in advance and centered between the two locations that the shows are held. Here is a link to their website: http://www.gisbornemotel.com.au/about.htm

If anyone is interested please shoot me a PM and i can tell you a bit more regarding prices.

Cheers.

Kobi is afraid of different floor surfaces and my vacuum cleaner, thats about it!!

Took him quite a while to get used to my wooden floors here and even longer to get used to the tiles in the bathroom! He walks on them as if he is about fall off them or something ;)

Those pictures were lovely.

Rip Magnus

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I forgot to add my candle burns bright for Jed here at home. I will tak a pic and use it as my avatar tonight.

I don't think anyone has the words for this kind of situation right now.

Showing we are collectively have her and the family in our thoughts with something seems like the right thing to do

It's nice to know the dogs are going to be cared for by someone other than the RSPCA.

Hoping the dog that has run off is Magnus and he is found soon.

I will be putting in a donation tomorrow.

How devastating, i am lost for words.

How horrible.

My breed has only two state-based clubs, and under the old rules can't have a National.

I hope under the new rules we may be able to form a national body one day.

I think there should be no CCs awarded for the breed at an All Breeds Show on the day of their National. I'd love to see no CCs awarded for a breed at an All Breeds Show on the day of any specialty in the country. That way the state-based breed clubs could attract more interstate entries.

CC

I quite like your reasoning for the blanket Australia ban there CC.

The fact that there are Nationals held in your breed means you should be supporting it anyway you can, because it is those that will die off first, before the All Breeds shows.

You say an entry of 14 dogs is missed ( money wise) in an All Breeds show, what about the Speciality?? That could mean the difference between covering costs and not...Or maybe an international judge.

I call it discrimination.

I think that is blowing it WAY out of proportion.

Anyway, i'm voting for Australia Wide.

Why stop people going out and supporting the club of their choice and having a bit of fun, isn't that what Dog Shows should be about, having fun.

Because it is a breed NATIONAL, a show that should showcase the best the country has to offer. I am not having a go at you for not being able to get there, unfortunately some circumstances do mean people can't get to it. In fact i am an example. I recently missed the Lab National because work wouldn't allow me to have it off. It wouldn't phase me in the least (obviously i am supporting it) that the show here on that weekend didn't allow CCs for Labs.

I do have a problem with people thinking they can get an easy ride when Nationals are on ( not necessarily you or anyone else in this debate), i see it too often.

I call it discrimination.

I think that is blowing it WAY out of proportion.

Anyway, i'm voting for Australia Wide.

Over the top...? Having principals? Not at all it's simply about freedom of choice and not being disadvantaged by that choice and not having needless rules, there are far too many as it is, not just in the dog world either

It's rules like this that will discourage the newer show going people who aren't up with all the rules and regulations

Needless rules?? These rules are put in for a reason and a fair one at that IMHO.

I also doubt that this rule discourages newer showies. It's one weekend a year (not even for some breeds). I took the time to read rules and regulations with this sort of thing, why should someone be able to claim ignorance on a matter such as this?