Damchi

[mita]

http://www.himalayanlanguages.org/files/driem/pdfs/2008D'amchi.pdf

Hmm, 'old style' longer snouted tibbies I've heard of before, so maybe they are around in tibbie lines.

Now that's interesting, because I've heard a knowledgeable breeder refer to one of my tibbie girls, as closer to the 'old style'.

She's a purebred & an Aus Ch but doesn't have the more snubbed snout like the other tibbie girls here. And, while not being over-big (like Zou Chai), she's bigger (& longer) than the more 'toy' like others. She's the one that strangers guessing her breed, have jokingly said, looks like a shrunk golden retriever. Whereas strangers guess 'some kind of peke' for the other girls.

Marion, you might be right. There was likely interchange, anyway, between the Damchi & the Tibetan Spaniel, so genetic associations might well be in some of the lines ...

[Marion 01]

How far back can you find your girls ancestors Mita, would be really interesting to see what is in her background as far back as it goes. There is also an old type in the Lhasa Apsos too, and there is a breeder in NSW who specialises in the old type ones, and they also differ in the length of their

muzzle as opposed to more recent types. So all in all the Tibbies and the Damchi could very well be one and the same breed, depending on where they were dispersed to, and how they were bred.. There were differing sizes in the early Tibetan Terriers, because the big ones 21"/22" went with the farmers and their yaks as herders ( which is basically what a TT is, not a terrier at all) the middlesized ones were kept as family guard dogs, and the smaller types went to the monastries to live with the monks.

[mita]

The head of a Damci pictured on a Bhutanese stamp. Note the slightly longer muzzle. Click to enlarge.

Now the head of my Tibetan Spaniel girl (p/b & Aus Ch) that breeder said was a bit like the 'old type'.. Note the bit similar muzzle.

Last a p/b Tibbie boy from the same kennels as my girl. Note the subtle difference with his muzzle. He has the same kind of look my other p/b tibs have had. Click enlarge:

None of those, of course, show body size.

Edited December 26, 2013 by mita

[Marion 01]

Quite a difference between yours and the bottom one. I like the ones with the longer muzzle.