Superloin For Dogs

[Carls]

Hi there,

I found an older link that hadn't been updated since 2014, so I was wondering if anyone had any further info on how they have found Superloin for dogs to be.

I am currently considering this for my 14 month old male Stafford. He has recently started to try to mate with my 6.5yro desexed male. Its not a dominance thing, its a sexual thing. He does the whole flirty dance, ears up, tail up, leaping around like a nufty. My older boy is so laid back that he put up with it for a bit, but now things are getting very snarly. I don't want the situation to get out of hand, but I also don't want to desex my younger male as I show him and I also want him to continue to develop to full maturity. He is also generally being a bit of a nutter, full of his own self importance. While I understand male dogs can be like that, his overambitious behaviour is affecting the other two dogs nerves too, with my bitch having a melt down every time the two boys have a bit of a shouting match.

Since its been over 12 months since anything has been written on the old thread, I'm wondering what people's experience is now, 12 months on. I am not overly worried about breeding with my male, I don't have a bitch to breed him with, or a program and I figure there are enough breeders out there with breeding programs and good stock, so I probably don't need to breed with him...

Anyway, any feedback gratefully received.

Thanks!

[Carls]

http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/201823-for-those-that-have-used-the-suprelorin-implant/page__st__150

The old thread...

[sas]

I've implanted 2 dogs and the only difference (as expected) is they no longer react to bitches in season.

[FHRP]

Carls, have you had your older boy checked for a UTI or possible other health reason why your young male is finding him attractive? Are any other entire male boys attracted to him?

Firstly I'd be trying to control his behaviour through training, but I also appreciate that some desexed boys smell lovely to some entire boys. I have had a couple of dogs given the suprelorin injection (as you may have read in the other thread :)) and it did stop sexual interest in other dogs, including towards a few desexed male dogs they previously found irresistable! It didn't change their temperament in any other way.

Be aware that there is a high chance that your boys testicles will shrink considerably and although I know of dogs shown while on suprelorin, I would have been worried that a judge would be concerned about the peanut size of my boys Also, Suprelorin suppresses the reproductive endocrine system by preventing the production of pituitary hormones and testosterone and I would be hesitant to do this in a dog not yet fully physically mature. Same as I am with castration.

Even though my own dog has sired 5 good sized litters after being on suprelorin, I would still collect a dog before them implant if there was any chance I might want to use him at stud in the future.

[Dogsfevr]

I wouldn't use it on a showdog it does shrink there testes & judges are paying more attention to this now as they should do .

I doubt it will stop what you want anyway .

[Carls]

Thanks for the advice. Much appreciated. My first experience with an entire male! I think I'd take a bitch in season any day over an entire male! LOL!

That being said I do love my boy.

So many things to consider.

Cheers everyone :)

[Carls]

Carls, have you had your older boy checked for a UTI or possible other health reason why your young male is finding him attractive? Are any other entire male boys attracted to him?

Firstly I'd be trying to control his behaviour through training, but I also appreciate that some desexed boys smell lovely to some entire boys. I have had a couple of dogs given the suprelorin injection (as you may have read in the other thread :)) and it did stop sexual interest in other dogs, including towards a few desexed male dogs they previously found irresistable! It didn't change their temperament in any other way.

Be aware that there is a high chance that your boys testicles will shrink considerably and although I know of dogs shown while on suprelorin, I would have been worried that a judge would be concerned about the peanut size of my boys Also, Suprelorin suppresses the reproductive endocrine system by preventing the production of pituitary hormones and testosterone and I would be hesitant to do this in a dog not yet fully physically mature. Same as I am with castration.

Even though my own dog has sired 5 good sized litters after being on suprelorin, I would still collect a dog before them implant if there was any chance I might want to use him at stud in the future.

No, I haven't had George checked for a UTI... would there be other symptoms? He doesnt have any issues with urinating. sometimes there is a little bit of discharge on his you-know-what but its not massive amounts or anything thats made me concerned...

Some other entire males lurve him, while others dont seem to care less...

Edited July 28, 2015 by Carls

[FHRP]

Frequent need to urinate is probably one of the most typical signs of UTI, but it is possible they don't show any obvious signs. It may be unlikely but I like to rule out medical reasons first.

Personaly I would first have your older boy vet checked and then if that's all good, I'd look at behaviour modification with the young dog. You probably need to engage a good trainer. If that's not working, or it's too hard to deal with you can consider castration, either chemical or surgical. If he's surgically castrated you can show him as a neuter! Be aware that any type of castration may not be the magic fix though, behaviours can become learned, so training is always the best start IMO.