Shazzapug

I know a reg breeder who sold the lot...when she got some medically bad news and couldnt leave her husband with such a burden...but the good news is she survived and has now had to start again. :D

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/11/08/289511_news.html

"TWO dogs have died and another is recovering at a Geelong vet clinic after being poisoned in a Whittington backyard on Sunday.

The vet treating the surviving dog believes the poisonings were deliberate.

Dog owner Samantha Blackley yesterday said her husband, Brodie, had returned from work about 10.45am on Sunday to find the family's four-year-old kelpie and five-year-old border collie dead.

Their 10-month-old great dane was convulsing, vomiting and close to death.

"Brodie was yelling, 'The dogs are dead, the dogs are dead'," Ms Blackley said.

Five months pregnant, Mrs Blackley said she helped her husband "wrestle" the 65kg great dane into their car.

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"What a disgusting and cruel thing to do. Dogs that are poisoned suffer a slow and agonizing death. The two breeds (of dog) killed are usually very placid and loving breeds. I hope the animal/s that did this get caught and publicly named and shamed!"

Bill

The dog, Duke, was rushed to vet clinic Best Friends Pet SuperCentre in Fyans St, where he was still receiving treatment, Ms Blackley said.

Vet Robyn Blackwell said it appeared the dogs had ingested "some sort of stimulant", causing them to over-heat and have seizures. Dr Blackwell said she did not want to speculate on the "extremely potent" type of poison that might have been used.

"But we've taken blood samples," Dr Blackwell said.

She said she had seen a lot poisonings in her years as a vet, nearly all of them accidental.

"But not this one," she said. "This was not an accidental one."

Ms Blackley said she was away from her Wilson's Rd home for only an hour or so on Sunday morning, during which time the dogs were poisoned.

Both Bindi, the kelpie, and Buddy, the border collie, weighed about 25kg, she said.

"The only thing which kept Duke alive long enough to get to the vet was his size," Mrs Blackley said.

The poisonings, which had been reported to police, followed an incident a few weeks ago in which the gate to the backyard was opened and the dogs got out, Ms Blackley said.

On that occasion, Buddy had been hit by a car.

A couple of months before that, the family had received an anonymous letter saying the dogs barked too much.

"We took measures to try and address their barking," Mrs Blackley said.

"And after that, we kept asking our neighbours if the dogs were barking too much and they kept reassuring us that they didn't bark any more than other dogs."

Ms Blackley said she had not slept since Sunday and both she and Brodie were broken-hearted.

"Those dogs particularly the border collie were like our children, we loved them," she said. Mr Blackley labelled the person who poisoned the dogs "a cruel, gutless coward".

The family was facing a veterinary bill amounting to thousands of dollars, she said.

Dr Blackwell pleaded with people who had problems with barking dogs to pursue the issue through proper channels, such as councils.

"Poisoning and killing animals isn't the answer," she said.

City of Greater Geelong manager of health and local laws Steve Sodomaco said the reported dog poisonings were now a police matter.

He said the council was liaising with police as they investigated the matter.

Mr Sodomaco said the council deplored the reported poisonings, and said the council's pet-friendly policies were designed to provide a variety of ways in which disputes involving pets could be resolved."

This is missing a bit....from the homepage of the geelong addy site.

Meanwhile, an animal rights advocacy group has announced a $1000 reward for information regarding the poisoning of three dogs at Whittington on Sunday.

A border collie and a kelpie died in the attack, while a great dane required urgent veterinary care.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) Australia has offered the reward, in exchange for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those responsible.

"Animal abusers are cowards," PETA Australia campaigns direction Jason Baker said.

"They take their issues out on the most defenceless beings available to them."

Anyone with information can contact Geelong police on 5225 3100

Shazzapug, I wonder if it was the same secretary that re-addressed my envelope for me and wrote the stupid, snippy note about the kennel name that was nowhere to be seen.

Give me a hint, if it was the same show there was a very obvious diference to other shows.

LOL ok..she prolly been a Miss far too long.

Don't know if you have an Aldi near you, but they have them on special from wednesday i think...

Pet Beds at Aldi

I have no idea of the quality, but am going to get one myself. Most of their stuff is pretty reasonable, and $25 sounds like a good price

Thanks for the link...we going to Aldi Bendigo tommorrow.

Is it a victorian thing then? :D

I had one like that last pic but it was square at the corners and had much shorter legs..had like shade cloth as the bed bit...so yes you can get shorter types Bluefairy but I cant remember the brand of this one. It lasted for ages but then succumbed to the chewing.

My outside beds are the trampoline beds..but the really sturdy pipe not the flimsy frames..these are the ones that you buy the bags to go on them, but I use the white feed bags, they air better etc. These I have found are indestructable with the Pugs lol. And when the bag wears out you just replace it.

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Thanks for that pic...now I know I saw a huge copperhead in our drive the other day...no more off leash in the driveway (700mtrs) for the puggies now.

I would imagine the exhibitor is the person showing the dog, not the person who owns the dog, so one envelope per exhibitor should cover all the dogs that one person is showing even if there are 10 dogs owned by 10 different people but shown by one.

In another thread I suggested stapling everything together before putting it in the envelope so the person opening the envelope know they all belong together, but apparently staples aren't desirable either. Where is that written? I checked the latest gazette and there's nothing in there about not using staples when sending off entries. To my mind, if they are opening the envelope then promptly getting stuff mixed up with other peoples, it stands to reason that having your own things clipped together with a staple means they can't get mixed up.

Addressing the envelope to the owner of the dog then putting your address on it wouldn't work either, especially with rural postal services like ours....the mail is sorted by name and we collect it from the general store. It's not delivered by a postie, and if someone else's name was on it, I'd never receive it. In fact, the most recent one where the show secretary crossed out my name then wrote my last name and the co-owners last name on the envelope (which was originally addressed to me only) meant that I only got the mail the day before the show because it had sat there for days with no one knowing who it belonged to.

I also agree with what you have said...the one I got back had our 2 names with a / between them...but that are the 2 owners of the dogs not the exhibitor being 1, me.

Even though I had signed her entry as "per" blah blah.

So if there arent stead fast rules how can one sec say what you are doing is wrong?

if you are in Victoria the show schedules state;

"in the case of multiple exhibitors, one envelope per exhibitor"

I did this the first few times I entered dogs in other names, and got one envelope sent back with the extras inside it!

Would be great if there was a 'rule' book for these and other such tricky issues. Seems like there are some things which are expected to be common knowledge, and its not nice being in trouble when you just simply didn't know.

Exactly ish...in this instance it isnt 2 exhibitors, it is 1 exhibitor also showing a dog not in their name! A rule book would be good...or a "protocol" thingy.

I have a maiden pug bitch at the moment...one of her 4 puppies was slipping back or not gaining as much as his siblings. We are lucky and I milk dairy goats, so for a few days I topped him up on raw goats milk every day...this then made him a bit stronger to compete and he is now catching back up to his siblings. I have found tho that her front teats have been the bigger easy let down on them than the back teats.

What breed are your babies at 90gms.

If the people coming are just for a pet then there is no way they should be coming when puppies are only 4 weeks. Why are they coming?

You might have to cut the skinny kid sleeves off...so dont pay too much for it.

GayleK - could non-conformation sports like herding be seen as more friendy because more than one dog can gain a pass towards a title on the day? My understanding is that everyone who did well enough (to the standard) can pass. Whereas in conformation - only one dog and one bitch within the breed can come away with Ch points.

Possibly. But that doesn't explain the snippy attitude of others who don't show the same breed, the impatience of club secretaries, the snide remarks you overhear when watching from the sidelines.

It also doesn't explain the rudeness of dog show people to newcomers or onlookers, and although everyone seems to get defensive about it, there's more than a little anecdotal evidence to show that it's rife and it's not limited to any breed in particular.

If you showed up at a herding trial to have a look to see what it's all about, you'd go away knowing more about it, having been welcomed by humans and dogs, you'd be offered a hot drink and a meal if lunch was on and you'd leave there all inspired to have a go at herding.

Once again the good get tarred with the same brush as the bad...way too general a statement.

Having a scroll through this thread and you'd have to wonder why anyone would want to start showing anyway, and why people do it in the first place.

It's not true that all sports are like this......I've been competing in herding trials this year and it's so far from the dog show world that the only common denominator is the dogs. From my first day of training, I found it to be friendly and welcoming and there's no bitchiness in sight. No one cares about who bred who's dogs, or who's at what level......pedigree show dogs compete alongside registered mutts, on equal footing. Herding is something that's taken over some of the weekends I used to show, because the atmosphere at a herding trial, the togetherness of the competitors and the encouragement of the spectators makes you want to go back again.

If ''In my opinion'' decided your herding results your comparison would be valid.

But it doesn't, so it's not.

I was referring to previous comments in this thread that "all sports are the same" when it comes to politics, bitchiness, nasty people etc. They aren't. And there aren't that many other activities where "in my opinion" decides the results. "In my opinion" coupled with no justification for the opinion....ie, no verbal or written critique or point scorecard, makes dog showing in a class of it's own. Even cat shows have judges giving verbal critiques about the cats, to justify their choice of winner.

The fact that it's an activity involving dogs and big, mature, grown up people, competing for *something* makes it a very valid comparison.

But I think it doesnt compare cos one is a beauty contest and the other is an ability race/contest.

I have just done this for the last 10 months... I put the owners name on the entry form, signed with my signature and wrote 'for' in front of their name.

When entering theirs and mine I put both of our names on the front of the SSAE and wrote the reg names of both dogs on the back of the SSAE.

Ok..so if I put both names on the SAE, and sign "for" the other owner...and make a list of the sec's that want seperate SAE. Thanks all.

It is very rare for us to only show dogs that are in our name. What we do is put all names on the envelope.

for example showing 3 dogs

1 owned by J Bloggs

1 owned by J Doe

1 owned by Mr Smith

3 entry forms, 1 cheque account holder Mr Smith

envelope would have all three names on it.

We have occasionally had secretaries complain and state they want a SASE for each exhibitor but on the most part they are happy with the above.

To keep them very happy and make it easier write the exhibitor name and or dogs reg name on the back of the cheque, as the contents of the envelope you send in do get split up through the process.

Thanks JR but the issue the show sec had with my first entry is the fact that there was more than one exhibitor in the same envelope!! I know some show secs are grumpier than others but doing what you said I would still cop a mouth full.

I'm pretty sure you just need to send off an authority to sign form, meaning you can enter on the owners behalf.

I have a dog that is co-owned and I had to get the breeder to sign the authority form and post it to confirm I am allowed to enter shows with just my signature alone and not hers as well.

They are usually available to print out from your states KC website.

Alternatively the breeder can fill out a stack of entry forms with her signature on them but the authority to sign is much easier!

Thankyou Shaar..

Mornington Lodge of course. :D

As the title suggests...what is the right way to enter a dog that is in someone elses name but it lives with you. I copped a mouth full from a show sec recently so I need to know this as the puppy is staying here to be shown. :D The next show I entered her in I have sent her entry in a complete seperate envelope with a SAE.

While I was showing one of my black pugs I used to put one of the kids sun block t shirts on him, you know the sort that is uv protection and they can swim in them. Worked a treat.

I would also be suspect if a breeder wanted a deposit BEFORE the puppy is born...there is absolutely no reason to take any money till the puppies are born.

Got my numbers today.

I breed and milk dairy goats, mainly Saanens....I feed Apple cider vinegar to them when they are pregnant and it makes a much thriftier goat babies :D only a teaspoon with every night feed. Now I had never thought of feeding it to my pregnant Pugs, till now...so I think I will try it with them too.

Just do eet!!