Andisa

My babies are now 11 weeks old, one girl in a show home with a close friend and 2 boys here (for now). I have been running on 2 boys but have chosen my first pick (as expected) and have since got a little too close with Indi who will be desexed this week and in his new home soon after.

Introducing - Andisa Buzz Lightyear :D (pic taken at 9 1/2 weeks old)

This is my little hopeful...fingers crossed he turns out ok :D Photo taken at 9 1/2 weeks old.

Pretty sure we have all heard about Rottweilers being 70 - 80 kg but put on the scales they would not even come close to it - just BS.

Some people have a firm grip on something but it's not reality.

Thanks for the replies, I had 2 males and 1 female pugs desexed yesterday and keeping them quiet has been a bit of a challenge. The boys are fine but I worry about the girl - she is the most feral in the litter and is very full on. They were so close to being toilet trained and desexing has been a set back . The girl is almost back on track but the 2 boys are not using the piddle pads as good as what they were. Hope they settle back down too.

2 pups were 2.1kg and the other was 2.3kg, they are nice chunky babies :D .

I found the velcro too hard on the pug pups, they would be better for a longer neck puppy that is fluffy or older pups. I used nail polish for the first week or 2 and made up crosgrain ribbon collars secured with resin snaps that I use for making baby nappies. They were perfect for the pugs.

As per title, those who have desexed puppies at 8 weeks old.

How do you manage the puppies after they have had their surgery?

Are they toilet trained (or training) before they leave - if so has the surgery changed anything?

How soon after the surgery do they leave for their new homes?

Anything to watch out for other than keeping them calm (yeah right...they are puppies) and clean.

Give Jane another call, she is a wealth of information and will help you with any questions.

I give goats milk or lactose free milk to the bitch during and after whelping. Lactose free carnation milk is also ok. Have never given calcium syrup.

There is also studies done that if the bitch is on a good quality diet and is healthy, the old method of dosing them up on calcium is not needed

Lets not forget that the bitches don't read the books. My other girls did not need any extra calcium however Charli did, day 2 we were off to the vet she was going flat, she was on calcium for a few weeks after whelping. I gave her calcium between pups but didn't expect to keep using it.

She produced heaps of milk for her 6 pups and could have easily fed a lot more.

I feed them naturally and will give them calcium in several natural forms but this time I needed the sandoz and glad I had it on hand.

Chicken - Pretty sure Dr Bob deals with several Rotties, Abby will be fine with him or if you don't mind the drive we go to Koo Wee Rup on Rossiter Rd (next to the railway line) - Jamie is fantastic and has seen all my dogs.

Sorry that your old clinic was careless not to update their files, this sort of thing seems to be pretty common - you would think it would be a high priority to make sure reminders do not get sent for deceased pets...

eta: Milo (small fluffy dog) recently had cruciate surgery there to repair a botched up job done at another clinic in Feb last year, his owners are thrilled with Dr Bob and will be staying with him.

I have often thought about getting a vest printed with "If you don't grab your friggen dog - I will" for my Rotties...I am so over selfish owners who refuse to use a bloody dog lead and take control of their own dogs while walking. How would they like it if I let my dogs off too?

For some reason I always thought breeders were required to have secure areas to provide necessary management to keep entire dogs - especially for when bitches come in season. If not, maybe I just assumed it was so .

My dogs are also house dogs and run together, the boy lets me know well in advance when a girl is due in season. Being house dogs it also means I see the first sign of a drop of blood on the floor and know when they start bleeding but the obvious swelling of the vagina and the males head shoved up her twat is usually a dead give away before the blood starts.

Hi DOLers,

Two days ago my 11month old dog developed a hot spot which has spread to 5 hot spots in different areas. I've been trying to treat it myself(mainly with an apple cider vinegar spray) because I want to avoid him taking antibiotics or having to use a steroid cream.. I've noticed in the past few days he has also been going to poo at night which is unusual because he usually only goes in the morning. Tonight he went twice and the second time it was diarrhea . Any idea if the hot spots and diarrhea are linked? I'm thinking maybe its the pumpkin I introduced recently to try and bulk up his stool. (he has been on a half BARF half kibble diet for around 3 months now). He is otherwise his usually bouncy self while of course his owner here is abit down thinking what could it be...will probably head off to the vets if it doesn't improve soon.

Highlighted the bits that stands out the most to me - since the hot spots are spreading at a rapid rate you have no choice now than going to a vet and get it treated asap. It's not about what you want to avoid but what the dog needs to treat the hot spots before infection becomes far more serious.

While you are there ask about the diet and diarrhea and get that sorted out too. Go today - this time of year is a bugger with a sick dog and it will be more expensive tomorrow. I would not be wasting any more time in this heat with a dog who has the runs - I would be very concerned about dehydration.

after seeing literally thousands of terrified dogs slip-sliding around the backs of utes and cab chassis vehicles at 100 km/hour plus on country roads and highways alike.

Really? That's amazing. I dont think I've even seen thousands of dogs being walked let alone slip sliding around on utes. You must live in Canine Central.

after seeing literally thousands of terrified dogs slip-sliding around the backs of utes and cab chassis vehicles at 100 km/hour plus on country roads and highways alike. I've seen parked vehicles with hung dogs (yep, dead because they couldn't quite reach the ground when they jumped over the side), I've seen dogs dragged along while the vehicle was moving (yep, dead because they couldn't scramble back onto the tray when they fell or jumped off the side), I've seen dogs hit by vehicles because they've come off the back, and I've lost count of how many I've almost hit for the same reason.

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sounds an awfully high proportion of dogs in utes ..and accidents!

Glad I am not the only one who smells BS.."literally thousands"..

Pretty sure most of us would have only seen a minority of dogs not secured correctly on the back of utes NOT including working dogs while working as they are required to jump on/off as necessary and during this time the vehicle is driven accordingly - not hooning.

Having grown up on a farm we value our dogs far too much to risk stupidity, unfortunately there will always be a minority who feel superior to think their training skills are greater than most or just don't give a shit - an injured or dead dog is the only way some people will learn.

Cages are becoming more popular and not just for the piggers either, have seen plenty of work utes with heavy duty cages, I'm in the Outer Suburbs and see heaps of HD cages set up for dogs and tools - safety all round.

You must live in cowboy country to have witnessed that many accidents involving dogs on utes

I've lived all over NSW, the ACT, Vic, Qld and the NT...and I do a lot of driving.

Meanwhile, up front in the DUAL CAB, is just the driver...plenty of room for the dog/s to travel but they're stuck on the back like a status symbol.

I have a dual cab ute, but I also lack air conditioning.

I prefer having my girl ride out back so she has some breeze.

Plus on the way back from an event, like a sled race it's much easier to hose the tray and crate off than it is to remove the stink and mud from my seats.

So not having to clean the interior of your vehicle takes priority over your dog?

Um, I'm pretty sure Esky also said that she feels her dog is better off in the back since her car has no air con. And besides, I think you are the last person that should be berating others about how they care for their dogs.

Pardon? Why would you say "I think you are the last person that should be berating others about how they care for their dogs."?

And I'm not berating anyone; I was asking a legitimate question.

Do you realise how hot the tray on a ute can become? It would still be cooler in the cab without air conditioning compared to the tray when the vehicle has been in the sun all day.

just highlighted the bit that you neglected to read or overlooked which would give you an idea of when the dogs are traveling on the back of the ute...sled dogs race in winter..

Chicken - when we lost Jasmine and had her cremated almost 8 yrs ago she came back in a lovely wooden box. I was going to scatter her ashes but James wouldn't let me. I kept her box beside the couch for the first couple of months where she used to lay at night then beside the PC. James took her and keeps her in his room saying when he dies she is to be buried with him.

Place her where ever it gives you comfort.

Even in so much pain today and unable to walk, she was happy in my arms. She looked up at my face and tried so hard to reach up and lick my face, something she knows is a no no. I lowered my face to hers and let her lick my nose.

Buried my face in under her ear and then she was gone.

It doesn't feel like home anymore. Abby is miserable, she just sat by me all night last night looking up at me.

I am so sorry Chicken, just don't know what to say. We thought it would the heart murmur in the end but the accident was just one of those things, reading through your first post brought tears in my eyes again. Rest easy Fern, you were one special little girl who was much loved and will be very missed. Hugs to you and Abby

I was referring to the great little dogs with the right owners comment do keep up.

I'm not responding to you anymore because you seem hell bent trying to fault my every sentence and ive better things to do with my time then pick fights on the interwebs.

Wrong again, you would know if I was. If you are worried about people commenting after something you write then perhaps you need to reconsider what advice you are giving on a public forum - especially where potential aggression is concerned. This also may come as a shock to you - but there are a lot of more experience dog people on DOL than what you are and can offer better advice not excuses such as "1 word - Pomeranian".

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Great little dogs with the right owners sadly 4 years later this dog is back to bring its old self, training was too hard for them

You could say that about a lot of Dogs, almost every breed.

They are highly intelligent and respond well/thrive off any training. Some people just shouldn't own dogs as your case sounded.

No - you are wrong....dogs are not a "one size fits all" so people need to do better research as to what type of dog (not what breed) they are capable of handling.

I have a Liberty twin tank I bought from Liberty Int over 10yr ago and it has been fantastic.

Oh, it's ok, the dog is only 12 months old - I can wait for the next thread...won't be barking at guests.

I'm pretty sure the housemate was the trigger to this behaviour (as would I if someone abused me).

I honestly doubt it. This is quite common behaviour from dominant dogs and abuse is rarely the trigger.

As I said, stop looking for excuses. Frankly if I seriously thought a dog was going to take a piece out of me, I'd be swinging a foot too.

No dog breed is unique MM. Poms are a spitz breed and have a lot of behaviours in common with other spitzs.

You'd kick a dog? That's lovely.

Does that mean you would just stand there and let a dog attack you?

Why can't they be spoilt and have boundaries?

Mine are spoilt but don't get away with things. The eldest has been to the groomer numerous times, spent the night at the vets and happily goes to others houses without a problem but at home she's a bit of an alert dog.

I urge you to read up on a Poms personality. I would never let my dog be aggressive to people, I have a baby niece and nephew we see regularly, I wouldn't jeopardize this behaviour.

I don't need to read up on them but thanks any way and for what it's worth, the only dog that I have never been able to finish grooming was a very spoiled Pom who was raised like a cat, never even had a collar on it let alone been walked...was a real eye opener for me. BUT that dog was not a small true Pom like I see at the dog shows who are real little gems.

There is nothing wrong with spoiling them a little bit but don't be blind to what can happen.

I used to have a tiny 3.5kg Maltese who was the sweetest little creature and was spoiled rotten but he was not a dominant dog so was never a threat. Spoiling a dominant dog is asking for problems, not saying yours are but I have seen more than my share of nasty buggers.

Do what you like with your own dogs as you will anyway - but don't come back in here saying that you are having issues which were easily avoidable with proper leadership. And it was you who said "1 word - Pomeranian"

Probably we're big softies to the cutest dog ever :laugh:

And that can be the worst thing you can ever do for small dogs. As mentioned already - would you accept that type of behavior from a large breed dog?

So long as my dog doesnt hurt or bother anyone, what's the problem in how my dog is?

It will be your problem if it hurts someone else due to miss management.

I have always had small dogs as well as large dog and I honestly believe the worst thing that owners do is allow small dogs to get away with so much simply because they are cute and small.

The worst dogs that I have groomed in over 10 yrs of dog grooming are small spoiled dogs who are allowed to get away with everything...they are not happy dogs - they are insecure. I would love to see you handling the small dog I did yesterday, thankfully the owner does not wear blinkers when it comes to this dog, she got him from the pound and loves him but is fully aware he is a danger...at only 5kg.

Probably we're big softies to the cutest dog ever :laugh:

And that can be the worst thing you can ever do for small dogs. As mentioned already - would you accept that type of behavior from a large breed dog?

1 word

Pomeranian

No - 3 words...Lack of leadership...