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I have tried this trick but Nova seemed never to be able to get it, he understands the idea and tries but i think his build stuffs him up. Cant wait till Darcys older so i can try that on him

Whoops sorry been a bit distracted with exams next week.

Will send it tonight sorry

I train at Berwick Obedience and during the day. I also do a bit at home mainly the weavers and direction following

Ohh my bad, i havent sent payment, will send it tomorrow just had alot of other things on at the moment sorry :rolleyes:

Ohh great!!! Cant wait till they arrive.

Can i have a blue and green? :rolleyes:

Cool thanks cant wait till i get them, the other ones are sooo hard to click at times

Thanks for all the responses.

Both boys are currently on Pro Plan i dont think i will change from this for awhile it just got recommended to me by a lady that does agility and all that but had trouble keeping weight on her dogs

Thanks for that i did a proper search after i started this stupid me, dont like the look of it.

Thanks Natasha

Just wondering if anyone uses it? it has been recommended to me and just wanted to know others opinions of it.

Thanks Natasha

Cool i will be up the back on the slope (hopefully) with a large pen with 2 tollers shouldnt be that hard to find

Cool, thats fine cant wait till i meet you all though

Yes i will have to hehe has your mum decided if you are bringing the bubs to the obedience trial?

Nope why is she moving?

Dogdayz: Where abouts do you train?? Ive always wanted to give tracking a go but never really started cause no place and basically no idea haha

Only just starting. I spent last weekend at a beginners course (KCC) run by Hastings Dog Club (who are fairly active in that area). Tracking club also runs one each year but it is held near Ballarat. Am now going to train with an experienced person (who knows collies well) over towards Hastings on Tuesday mornings.

The best way seems to be to find someone who can accomodate you into their training group.

Its an interesting lesson in reading a dogs body language, how it changes as it finds and loses the scent. I handled a cattle dog pup who was fairly calm about it all. Pitied her owner who handled my weim - wasnt ready for the strength/speed that a weim moves when on a mission.

The main problem is travel, trials are generally held at a distance and start at 7am, so you travel early hours and are there all day. Most training is done early morning from what i gather, and out of snake season of course.

Sounds great!!!

Im not going to start tracking till after i get my license as i know my dad is not going to drive me at 7am to somewhere an hour away for only a couple of hours

I will go to the tracking course next year at Ballarat to get me started and then Darcy will be old enough to stay awake for longer then 1 hour

I guess i will just attempt at "training" them until next year.

Thanks Natasha

Dogdayz: Where abouts do you train?? Ive always wanted to give tracking a go but never really started cause no place and basically no idea haha

Thanks NAtasha

Hi,

If you still have enough left i will take 3 of them (i lose heaps around here cause a certain pup steals them)

If it was on the first day, i (think i) saw Slim1 have one

Awesome great photos i can never get good photos of Nova I am having a look at the link now

Yeah i agree i will go again if you come back later on to make sure i am on the right track

Yes i agree it was a great help, ive realised where i went wrong in his training and will be trying all the things you told us

Thanks heaps!!!

Natasha

Hello Everyone

I am glad to see that Myszka has posted K9 Forces web pages. I recently attended a clinic with Steve and I went knowing nothing about "e-collars". I came away with a great understanding of them and how they work.

I tried these collars on myself and waited for this big zap and laughed when I finally felt something, a small pulsating tingle. As Steve says, " it is like tapping them on the shoulder to say, 'are you listening to me'."

In the wrong hands these collars can be a nasty piece of equipment but so can any piece of training equipment. How many dogs have been presented to vets with neck problem because of check chains, halties or even soft collars for that matter. I have seen 2 dogs that have hung themselves to death by trying to scale a fence and having their soft collar get caught. Personally I would prefer the gentle tingle of an e-collar than a jerk of a check chain on my neck.

I believe we should be informed on what training methods we use with our animals and this is a great place to source some of that information but please don't come here and preach cause what works for some may not work for others and in the end we all love our animals.

MEGAN. Yes that poor dog may have been the victim of a malfunctioning collar and yes, his injuries were terrible, but how many animals are presented in vet surgeries all over Australia with injuries that are far worse after being hit or killed by cars after they have escaped.

AFTON. You asked for people on this forum to give their opinions, their opinions have been given freely and informatively it is up to you what you do with this information that you asked for.

We could argue the pros and cons of e-collars and containments systems till we are blue in the face and still people will disagree with each other, that is just how the world is.

:rolleyes:

Good Post

I went to the Melbourne seminar today (which was fabulous by the way thanks)

and it certainly got rid of any doubts about all the types of collars.

I also tried the e-collar on my arm and i got to a level 5 before i felt anything it was just a slight tingle which i was very surprised at and if needed i would use one of those on my boy because i now know it doesnt hurt as much as i first thought

Haha cool, dont worry about us we are no competition i dont think unless he changes his attitude at the moment :rolleyes:

Im not sure about Finn i dont see him that much last time at the Expo time before that was the Royal so yeah

You can still meet my two though haha

Haha yes i have entered Nova in the Berwick Obedience trials in Encouragement for both trials im really scared haha hope to see you there i might be bringing Darcy to get him used to the atmosphere so i will see you there!!!

Haha Finn is Novas full brother (littermate) and it definately sounds like they have the enthusiastic attitude in common

CONGRATS!!!!!

Cant wait till we compete against you haha and be very afraid Tollers are addictive and get on great with Borders

Spart: They are gorgeous more piccies hehehe

^I agree, i do growl at them when they arent doing the right thing and they quickly correct themselves, Darcy much quicker then Nova. I doubt anyone can train a dog using 100% positive reinforcement and if they did i reckon they would be lying

With Nova i use a clicker and cant use any punishment at all (not that i would anyway) as he will tune straight off and wont listen. I am however working with a GL but can take it off after a few minutes and he wont go too far ahead for the rest.

With Darcy gee he is really sensitive if you so much as raise your voice he will go like no way im not doing it, so he is on clicker and heaps of pats and praise, he is coming along really nicely im proud of him as i tried those training techniques from the attention when heeling thread and he now walks along beside me looking right in my face hehe looks great but it aint working on Nova