Alyosha

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I can't imagine how you get anything done at all!! :laugh:

Oooooo! Exciting for both of you! I'll keep lurking in here, reminding myself what I'm in for soon after you guys! :D Can't wait to see both Leo and GSD pups!!

Ooooo! November thread , exciting!!

Alyosha - Borzoi, due 6/11/2013. :crossfingers: :crossfingers:

LOL yep all on my lonesome I am thinking that she is pregnant will know more in a week or so

I dont do ultrasounds to check so it is all wait and see here

Woot!

Sounds promising your end too Jay57.

I don't do routine ultrasounds either. The less stress the better. For the bitch that is, I'm pretty sure I could use a little less stress!!

We need a November thread... I hope...

Yes OC spray can set aggressive dogs right off - which many police have learned the hard way. And few police carry tasers. People can blame the cop all they like - the dog's owner was the one who seriously let him down.

As for the condemnation of the officer for the dog being "shot through the back of the neck" - because the newspaper said so... As we all know that newspapers are a vessel of nothing but absolute truth and integrity...

Same newspaper published a photo of said dead dog, showing the back of it's neck with no visible injury. And despite all the ballistics experts here on dol, a single shot to the back of a dogs neck with a 40cal hollow point round would be highly unlikely to drop it dead in a very clean manner.

Lesson to be learned, don't believe all that you read in papers - do we really need to be reminded of that??

I do find it a bit depressing that the big corporate vet clinic thing seems targeted at making maximum profit, but not necessarily returning that to the staff. I have heard that some of teh big, more corporate style clinics don't necessarily pay too well, despite charging higher prices. I suppose big business is the same anywhere.

I'll jump in first and recommend Sandy Waugh for Bowen in the Sydney area. She's amazing. http://www.animalbowenaustralia.com.au/

I have found that big dogs can gradually just lose the strength to get their frames up from the floor as they really age. So while pain relief etc can make them more comfortable, if the strength is fading it won't actually help them lift up.

If you can encourage him to sleep on something firm but raised it can help - like a low daybed/sofa. But old habits die hard and he will probably still go and lie on the floor...

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Good to hear that the police weren't afraid to be decisive.

I have only had experience of it in goats and they normally present as female externally. I would think early desexing could alleviate many of the issues that surround it in goats.

I think that means they are trained to respond to being attacked, by returning it instead of backing down. He might have just been at a convenient height... Or inconvenient from the suspect's point of view I suppose!!

Maybe he'll learn to keep his fists to himself one day...

http://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/police-dog-bites-suspect-on-penis/2015283/

A MAN who was bitten on the penis after allegedly punching a police dog in the face is in police custody.

Zane Thomas Smith had been on the run for several days after an alleged robbery at Mooloolaba, where he allegedly bashed a woman and stole a motorcycle.

The 23-year-old Peregian Springs man was tracked to a house in Pomona, where a police dog sniffed him out hiding in a hallway cupboard.

The dog bit Smith on the penis, piercing his main blood vessel, after he allegedly punched the dog in the snout.

Smith spent a week at Nambour General Hospital under heavy police guard to repair the puncture wound.

He was taken to Maroochydore Police Station and charged with serious assault, drug possession, unlawful use of a motor vehicle, and two charges of obstructing police on the weekend.

The charges were adjourned to September 23.

A police spokesman said the experienced police dog was under control of the handler during the Pomona incident.

He said the dog responded as it had been trained to respond.

The incident was yesterday subject to an internal police review.

Tralee, under your example, if an intruder attacks me with a bat, do I have to ask them to wait while I find something equivalent? Or can I use whatever force is necessary to save myself from their attack? And, you would hope, therefore reasonable...

I had this hilarious mental image of asking an attacker to wait while I assess what I can use that is equivalent to their weapon. :laugh:

So folks on dol are allowed to criticise a dog and or it's owner if that dog rushes a member here and scares the cr*p out of them? If that was the nature of the thread here I can't imagine half as many people jumping in to blame the poster, the one that was being threatened...

But turn the tables nd imagine it's a cop being threatened by a 60kg dog, and they are suddenly a big sook for being afraid.

The last dog that really rushed me was probably 20kg. And it scared the crap out of me. If I had of been armed I would have shot it. I've only once been seriously rushed by a really big powerful dog (Dane) and it's a moment I will never forget as well.

But maybe any of us that have been truly frightened by a dog are really just in need of a spoonful of concrete...

And Common Law still cover a whole host of things. Because writing every possibility into statute is not necessarily helpful. We talk a whole lot about over-legislation with regard to dog ownership, and how misguided it becomes. So you can see how Common Law is still an important part of our society.

Unfortunately it will probably eventually go the way of it's supporting ideal - common sense.

I can only speak for NSW. But a common misunderstanding there is that trespass is a criminal offence for entering land or property. In NSW, the offence necessitates the request of the property owner for the person to leave that property, and for that person to remain. Without that request and failure to leave there is no offence.

I would think that the right to approach the front door of residences possibly comes under Common Law in most states and is not necessarily in statute.

It is BlackJaq. It just means that they were not sharing any more detail than that with the media.

Don't forget that we're not talking about a power of entry to premises here. To approach a front door does not require a legislated power of entry.

Are you still alone in here Monteba?

Hope your girl is going well.

They were obviously not there on some random drop in. Police are busy, and attend premises according to their work. There is no information in the article about why they were there - but as has been said, police can lawfully attend houses for so many reasons. Things as diverse as a toddler is missing in the neighbourhood, to ask if they heard anything from a neighbouring domestic, to check on the welfare of someone suicidal. The list is endless. They don't just knock on doors to question people about crimes.

I wonder if you can still get those "silent" dog whistles? You know the ones that are supposed to be too high for humans to hear? I haven't heard of them for years. Anyone?

edit to add - der. I should perhaps google first... Seems there are lots around.

They also sometimes stay open, unofficially, for a little while past the date. You can even ring and check with the Sec what day they will accept entries up to.

The difference here being that the police appear to have legitimately approached the property, as they are legally empowered to do. The owners of that property have not asked them to leave. The dog incident has occurred before any human interaction. So the above analogy doesn't compare at all.

Yes to your second. :) The mess is indeed in the inside. But little penetrative power.

I think that will be half your battle SSM - them adjusting to any interruption as they get used to it. My friends I mentioned above used to get great and instant silence if they turned on the floodlights when their Borzoi started up. But not anymore...

And fyi, this article says Vic Police now carry a 40 cal. pistol. That is nothing like a 9 mm, which is what some people have been saying

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-04-29/new-pistol-chosen-for-victoria-police/415184

This is a 40 cal round we are talking, I seriously doubt that dog was shot with a 40 cal hollow point because the head would probably be missing. Where do you people get your information?

From having carried and used a 9mm, 40cal S&W pistol with hollow point rounds as part of standard gear in a former job, and during that job, having used it to euthanase numerous injured animals... and then obviously seeing the results.

Some people don't just pluck information off the internet and take it as gospel, they may actually have life experience.

Where I used to live we had a greyhound family down at the bottom of the hill. Theirs were kennelled in the double garage. Every few nights they would sing at about 2am... And it was a weird, eerie (and loud!) noise. We were several blocks away and it would wake us without fail. But I didn't mind too much as it was just sort of strange and musical. But I used to wonder what their next door neighbours thought...

And when I stay with friends who have a much bigger Borzoi pack than me they usually start up howling at about 4am... They must have the world's best neighbours... It's loud.

Sorry, not much help... :laugh:

I too would try e collars or maybe even citronella.