GeorgesFamily

I find this a fascinating topic. I love dogs, and have always had them. The trouble for me is that I have occasionally had dogs that had difficulty socialising. (I'm a sucker for a face in a pound.) Having people with different ideas on "acceptable" dog behaviour come and visit drives me nuts, so it's easier to keep the dogs separate. My exBIL used to always bring his dog to visit, and never seemed to notice that when he did, I'd be locking the cats in my bedroom and having to lock up my own dog. He regarded my dog's issues as my problem, not his, whereas I regarded their own home as the one place my animals shouldn't have to worry about a stranger. One cat was so neurotic over the strange dog we'd have diarrhoea for 24hrs afterwards. Not pleasant in a longhaired cat. My own brother has recently bought himself a SWF. He did at least ask permission for her to visit, and I allowed it. Same deal, I had to lock up this generation of cats, and my own dogs. The dog is adorable, but after they left I discovered the present she'd left me behind the coach. It intrigues me that people who own animals don't recognise that their own pet may cause problems in other people's homes. I don't take my dogs to other people's homes unless they are invited.

If you do a Google search for the title, this is the first result http://members.chello.nl/~r.beijerinck/Sagawebsite/saga.htm Is this not the right book? Is it no longer available?

Comments withdrawn. The product I used was in Victoria, and these guys don't appear to be selling there. The logo looks very similar, though... sorry.

I was admiring yours. I love the brindles. I'll have to stay later and introduce myself properly next time.

Yes, that's us! We were near the exit, and he does look a bit wolfhoundish. I think he's gorgeous, but I could be a bit biased.

Hmm I need to work out how to put up an avatar. George looks like a hairy brindle greyhound. We think there is a bit of wolfhound in there. On his first run we thought he had the idea - he did take off in the direction of the lure, then he just hooned around abit. On his second run, he ran in the opposite direction. Oh, well. I did see a lovely Pharoah Hound! And Tollers And Collies And Greyhounds And a VERY VERY keen Dalmation. When's the next one?

We were there, but didn't know anyone. George had no clue at all, but enjoyed the run. I was just happy that he was calm and cheerful - it was his first doggie outing since we tried to go to obedience club. Lots of lovely friendly people. It was a great way to spend an afternoon.

This is a cat story, but I think it's applicable. I had an elderly cat with a thyroid condition, she was a nervous cat and being given medication stressed her terribly. We discussed other treatment, but the vet advised against it. We sadly made the decision to stop treatment and to have her put down when we felt it was appropriate. When the time came to put her down we rang the clinic and asked for the vet to make a house call, so she wouldn't have the additional stress of travelling. The receptionist refused and insisted we bring her in as the vet may be able to 'do something'. We took her in and listened to the scathing remarks about having ceased the medication, and the list of reasons why she would need to be PTS. I've never been back. He (and you) may not have approved of our choices, but we did what we felt was best under the circumstances. We didn't need the aditional guilt trip, and Tash certainly deserved an easier end.

I wondered about cock fighting spurs as well. Then I wondered whether the © spurs that have sharpened or fully-fixed rowels; (d) spurs that are reasonably capable of penetrating the skin of the animal on which they are intended to be used. could be interpreted as those as well. It's all in the interpretation! As far as I can tell in WA the regulations you are concerned about would be Animal Welfare (General) Regulations 2003 and the Dog Regulations 1976 I've just wasted a whole afternoon reading court cases. Some of them were very funny - like the vet that gelded an expensive Warmblood colt by accident. OOPS!

I don't know enough to comment on this discussion, but I'm not bad at research. So for Ricey this is the WA list of prescribed devices. http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/wa/cons...2003292/s3.html ANIMAL WELFARE (GENERAL) REGULATIONS 2003 - REG 3 “Inhumane devices” prescribed (s. 19(2)(b)) 3 . “Inhumane devices” prescribed (s. 19(2)(b)) For the purposes of section 19(2)(b) of the Act, the following devices are prescribed as inhumane — (a) a device, other than an electric fence, that is designed or modified to deliver an electric shock to an animal; (b) jawed traps; © spurs that have sharpened or fully-fixed rowels; (d) spurs that are reasonably capable of penetrating the skin of the animal on which they are intended to be used. Further in the regulations it says that using electrical devices such as 'invisible fences' may be defensible if used in accordance with the relevant code of conduct. Electric training collar activated by the animal or a person in the course of training an animal Training of animals Dogs Must be used in accordance with the generally accepted method of usage for the type of collar. Electrical device known as the “invisible fence” Containment and training of animals Dogs Must be used in accordance with the generally accepted method of usage for the type of “invisible fence”. On the subject of applying for a permit to import - you would usually need to show a good reason why you should be allowed to import an item on the restricted list. "Because I want one, and I think the rule is wrong" might not cut it I haven't found any list that mentions collars, but I'm still looking.