rmcneill Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Hello, my name is Rhiann. Two and a half weeks ago i got my first AMSTAFF. She is currently 10 wks, and was just under 8 wks when i got her. We also have another APBT who is a incomplete male. So the issue is she is really not learning anything or doing what she is told! She STILL cryes most of the night, i have her in a crate in the lounge so she can see Dozer(apbt) when she sleeps, she is still weeing inside even if she has been out for ages she will come in and wee! I havent slept in weeks and she go nuts at about 6.30am every single morning so thats when i get up. Im running out of ideas, i take her out for a wee in the middle of the night and she just wants to fluff around, so i put her back to bed only to continue screaming ahhh what do i do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mummytodakota Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Hello, my name is Rhiann.Two and a half weeks ago i got my first AMSTAFF. She is currently 10 wks, and was just under 8 wks when i got her. We also have another APBT who is a incomplete male. So the issue is she is really not learning anything or doing what she is told! She STILL cryes most of the night, i have her in a crate in the lounge so she can see Dozer(apbt) when she sleeps, she is still weeing inside even if she has been out for ages she will come in and wee! I havent slept in weeks and she go nuts at about 6.30am every single morning so thats when i get up. Im running out of ideas, i take her out for a wee in the middle of the night and she just wants to fluff around, so i put her back to bed only to continue screaming ahhh what do i do? I feel your pain! I got my first english staffy 3 weeks ago & were having the exact same problems! Only she refuses to go in her crate, the neighbours think im killing her when i put her in there. She also goes crazy at around 5.30am & that means im up for the day as well. I dont know what to suggest because were in the exact same situation here, but i'm very interested in the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcneill Posted May 8, 2008 Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 I feel your pain! I got my first english staffy 3 weeks ago & were having the exact same problems! Only she refuses to go in her crate, the neighbours think im killing her when i put her in there. She also goes crazy at around 5.30am & that means im up for the day as well. I dont know what to suggest because were in the exact same situation here, but i'm very interested in the replies. O my god, im so relevied its not just me!, the whinging is sooo loud it actually give you a masive head ache, i felt that i had to go and talk to the neighbour to explain that it was a new puppy and i apologized to them, they were really good about it, but now its gone on for so long!! i just wonder if she will ever stop! she goes in the crate when i go to work nearly every day for a few hours! i have no idea whats wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macka Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 she goes in the crate when i go to work nearly every day for a few hours! i have no idea whats wrong That's what's wrong! She goes in the crate when you leave her, so she associates the crate with being left alone. Plus, seperation anxiety is common for a pup of that age. Start building up positive associations with the crate. Feed her her dinner in there. Give her a special treat that she only gets when in the crate. Put her in there while you are still with her and don't let her out until she settles. When she settles, praise. You will get there, she's only a baby still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcneill Posted May 8, 2008 Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 she goes in the crate when i go to work nearly every day for a few hours! i have no idea whats wrong That's what's wrong! She goes in the crate when you leave her, so she associates the crate with being left alone. Plus, seperation anxiety is common for a pup of that age. Start building up positive associations with the crate. Feed her her dinner in there. Give her a special treat that she only gets when in the crate. Put her in there while you are still with her and don't let her out until she settles. When she settles, praise. You will get there, she's only a baby still. Ok thanks macka, i will try that i have a kong toy that i havent used yet, should i maybe fill that and give it to her when i go to work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmolo Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Definitely start building a positive association with the crate. Does he have toys etc in there? Do you put him in there at other times apart from over night and when you're not home? Have you ever let him out of the crate while he's been crying? How big is the crate you have him in? Would strongly suggest you attend a quality puppy school for socialisation purposes and also to cover some of these problems!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmcneill Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 Does he have toys etc in there? Do you put him in there at other times apart from over night and when you're not home? Have you ever let him out of the crate while he's been crying? How big is the crate you have him in? She has toys, and a tug o war toy tied to the side, i never let her out if shes crying but i havent put her in the crate when i have been here though i will try that maybe with her kong toy. The crate is a 42inch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jibba Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I have your dogs sister, and this is definately a family trait, my girl does the same thing, and simple i dont use the crate until she is trained more, then i can control th eproblem, to be honest i think you are asking a lot of a small puppy. My girl does do lots of wee's but so do all puppies, mine goes to the door and goes out if i am quick enough, they do grow out of this, and i am finding that they are extremely stubborn, and you just have to be more stubborn. The othe rnight my girl went out at 4am to the toilet, when i called her she came half way and sat with her back to me, so simple i closed the door and went back to bed, she now runs when called to come inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rysup Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 Amstaff puppies are STUBBORN mules.......they need to learn the rules very early and very quickly. Many may not agree with my methods, but when all our Amstaffs first came home I was very tough on the crying at night thing, it only took two nights and they were over it. As for the toileting, they are babies and I would never expect a baby at that age to have much bladder control. I try to paper train them, so they at least go on newspaper, and gradually you move that outside and then take it away altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sas Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 (edited) I personaly feel you are expecting too much from a 10 week old puppy. I would also bring the crate into the bedtroom, make sure the puppy toilets before going in it and get up once or twice throughout the night until you create good toileting habbits. In regards to the whining in the crate, puppy is only doing that for a reason.....can I guess that you go out to her to either comfort her or tell her to shut up? Complete ignorance of the puppy when it needs to go to sleep. Puppy may wake up in the night and whine and that is your cue to take puppy out to toilet, that's why I personaly feel it's important to have the crate in the bedroom so you can hear the whine. And when you do toileting stops overnight, you simply take the puppy outside and give the toileting command which they will come to understand in time - no playing or interaction at toilet time except when puppy goes toilet then you can praise, puppy goes straight back in its' crate and igored again. The more toileting mistakes you allow to occur the longer it will take for puppy to understand what is expected of it. Puppies do wake up early - get used to it LOL As they get older and more settled they tend to sleep longer. In our personal experience our puppy cried for 2 nights and was up and down in the crate throughout the night for the first week. He always let us know when he needed to toilet whilst in the crate and never toileted in the crate. That brings me to another school of thought...a crate should only be big enough for the dog to stand up and turn around that way it is less likely that a puppy will toilet in its' crate. Our dog was sleeping through the night at 11 weeks. Edited May 14, 2008 by sas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amstaffchick Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 (edited) I just recieved an email from this puppies owner yesterday to say she was doing well and spent the night with no poo or wee in her crate lol, they have their first private puppy lesson tonight so hopefully all goes well.... Amstaffs will work you out in about 3 minutes flat! Ppl need to be VERY consistant and forceful with their training, i agree with Rysup you must be tough! I dont believe getting up to a crying puppy is the way to go Sas i believe that encourages the pup to cry, you have just taught the pup when it cries you will come....Also a small crate with no where to poo and wee is not acceptable for a young pup as that will only FORCE the pup to sleep in its own crap.....A bed up one end with her scent blanket and a teddy and some newspaper down the other... If a pup is put somewhere where he/she is safe and warm then i tell ppl to ignore the crying and within a couple of nights you will be sleeping through the night as will your puppy...Worry about toilet training after you have the sleeping sorted, puppies will poo and wee at night... thats life guys. Edited May 14, 2008 by amstaffchick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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