maximum Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Hi Everyone I have a feeling that Max has entered 'teenager-hood'. His hormones are DEFINITELY getting the better of him at the moment! Trouble is, he's only 20 weeks old and I'm thinking it's a bit early for all this to be happening. Here's what's been going on in the past week or so: - I have a friend staying with me at the moment, who has been taking him for walks during the day while I'm at work. He rang me a couple of days ago and proudly announced that Max had cocked his leg next to a tree for the first time, rather than weeing with all 4 feet on the ground. My limited dog knowledge tells me that's marking, not just peeing. - Max has a big, stuffed bear that he loves. He's always 'humped' it nightly *LOL*, but he's now getting erections (and worse, but I'll spare you the details) while he's doing it. He also gets them sometimes when I play 'rougher' games with him, or when he's excited to see me. (God, there are SO many one liners in there...I never thought I'd be embarrassed to talk about pet sexuality!) - Yesterday, my houseguest didn't close the baby gate properly and Max shot through and pissed on my guest's bed (it's one of those Aerobeds on the floor). Max isn't allowed down that end of the house, so I can only assume he was territory marking. I've always had my pets desexed early - usually 10-12 weeks - without any problems over the past nearly 40 years. But the vet I'm taking Max to won't do it before 6 months. I've been a bit nervous about this from the start because in my experience pets tend to mature sexually well prior to 6 months, but because Max is the first puppy I've been entirely responsible for, I'm listening to the vet on matters medical. So, Max isn't due to be 'de-balled' for another almost 2 months! I don't know if I can cope with a sometime adolescent dog who starts pissing on my furniture etc.!! He's been really good with his toilet training (we live in a large apartment), but I know that territory marking has nothing to do with needing to pee/poo. I'm thinking of ringing the vet and begging him to 'snip' Max early, but I'd appreciate any advice. Things are fine at the moment, but I don't want it to escalate into a pissing war at my place. I have a huge Maine Coon cat who is also rather territorial - he never marks, but that's because he hasn't had to. But since I got Max, he's become a little insecure and although he doesn't actually pee outside the litter tray, he does roll all over Max's used puppy pads to try and get his own scent on there. Charming, I know... Max also hasn't lost any baby teeth as yet. Well, not that I can see. He's obviously teething, because he goes bananas with his chewy toys, pigs ears etc. and when I looked at his gums last night, they seemed slightly inflamed. I've read a few threads about teething on here, but because I committed the cardinal sin of buying Max from a pet shop (yeah, I know, major brain fart), I can't ask the breeder (aka puppy farmer) what's normal in his litter. When should I start being concerned about dental issues? Thank you in advance - this website is absolutely AWESOME and I'm learning SO much about dogs in general! Cheers Annie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Are you still using puppy pads? I would get rid of them as it's just telling him it is OK to pee in your house. Just teach him to go outside. I also have a couple of pups the same age, they have already lost several teeth. The male is also cocking his leg sometimes while outside. I have had pups as young as 7 - 8 weeks old do this, so don't be getting all stressed about it! Just make sure you have cleaned the area with appropriate cleaners to remove all smell (that would attract him back). The hormones will soon settle down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximum Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 Are you still using puppy pads? I would get rid of them as it's just telling him it is OK to pee in your house. Just teach him to go outside.I also have a couple of pups the same age, they have already lost several teeth. The male is also cocking his leg sometimes while outside. I have had pups as young as 7 - 8 weeks old do this, so don't be getting all stressed about it! Just make sure you have cleaned the area with appropriate cleaners to remove all smell (that would attract him back). The hormones will soon settle down. Can't get rid of the puppy pads, we live in an apartment. I've managed to 'break' Max from peeing anywhere but the laundry, which has puppy pads covering most of the floor. There's really no other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest belgian.blue Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 What breed is Max? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximum Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 What breed is Max? *hangs head* Cross breed - poodle/maltese. And he extremely clever - picks things up VERY quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelpie_Pup Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 What breed is Max? *hangs head* Cross breed - poodle/maltese. And he extremely clever - picks things up VERY quickly. Sounds like you're implying cross breeds are incapable of such a thing I don't have anything useful to add I'm sorry, I don't have a male dog! *cringes* at the pet shop comment Ah well, live and learn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rish Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 that post made my day !!!! , Leiht is also Teethng,so im off t by a big bone-ll 3 so they all get 1 (she ate 3 pig ears in 5 minets !) still cant get her to tolit outside ,and she started to having firm bowel movements,but now again the runs (try picking that up with tolit paper !) so if she is still runny bu saturday,i will take a sample to the vets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rish Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 that post made my day !!!! ,Leiht is also Teethng,so im off t by a big bone-ll 3 so they all get 1 (she ate 3 pig ears in 5 minets !) still cant get her to tolit outside ,and she started to having firm bowel movements,but now again the runs (try picking that up with tolit paper !) so if she is still runny bu saturday,i will take a sample to the vets (keyboard is broken BTW-i use Vineger to deoderitize all smells,works well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximum Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 What breed is Max? *hangs head* Cross breed - poodle/maltese. And he extremely clever - picks things up VERY quickly. Sounds like you're implying cross breeds are incapable of such a thing I don't have anything useful to add I'm sorry, I don't have a male dog! *cringes* at the pet shop comment Ah well, live and learn! I'm still horrified at myself that I bought from a pet shop. I own three pure bred cats and I learned all about kitten/puppy farms back when I bought them 11 years ago. I had even been corresponding with 3 different breeders when I decided to get a dog, finding out about the three different breeds I was considering! But one day, on my way to buy kitty litter, I walked past the window of the pet shop and there was Max...I had a brain fart and fell madly in love with him! I grew up in the area where the pet shop is and have known the owners for many years and know what their practices are for animals they sell. Everything larger than a bird or guinea pig is taken home by staff members every night, on a rotation basis, never left in cages until they are sold. The puppies are very well socialised, toilet training commenced etc. Anyway, there's no excuse for buying a pet shop animal and I know it. End of story. I'm just SO lucky that Max is healthy (according to my vet) and that he has a GREAT temperament. Loves absolutely everyone he meets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 (edited) Maximum: Max also hasn't lost any baby teeth as yet. Well, not that I can see. He's obviously teething, because he goes bananas with his chewy toys, pigs ears etc. and when I looked at his gums last night, they seemed slightly inflamed. I've read a few threads about teething on here, but because I committed the cardinal sin of buying Max from a pet shop (yeah, I know, major brain fart), I can't ask the breeder (aka puppy farmer) what's normal in his litter. When should I start being concerned about dental issues? Have a good look at the teeth between his upper canines? There should be 6 little incisors there? Are there only 4 and are they all the same size? Incisor teeth are usually the first to be replaced and between 4-5 months is the usual start time. He may also be replacing molars as well with the big adult canines around the last to arrive. He may be teething already but if not, he's bound to start soon. And yes, a lot of chewing can be expected. Edited February 4, 2009 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poodlefan Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 (edited) Maximum: Max also hasn't lost any baby teeth as yet. Well, not that I can see. He's obviously teething, because he goes bananas with his chewy toys, pigs ears etc. and when I looked at his gums last night, they seemed slightly inflamed. I've read a few threads about teething on here, but because I committed the cardinal sin of buying Max from a pet shop (yeah, I know, major brain fart), I can't ask the breeder (aka puppy farmer) what's normal in his litter. When should I start being concerned about dental issues? Have a good look at the teeth between his upper canines? There should be 6 little incisors there? Are there 6 and are they all the same size? Incisor teeth are usually the first to be replaced and between 4-5 months is the usual start time. He may also be replacing molars as well with the big adult canines around the last to arrive. He may be teething already but if not, he's bound to start soon. And yes, a lot of chewing can be expected. Edited February 4, 2009 by poodlefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximum Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 that post made my day !!!! ,Leiht is also Teethng,so im off t by a big bone-ll 3 so they all get 1 (she ate 3 pig ears in 5 minets !) still cant get her to tolit outside ,and she started to having firm bowel movements,but now again the runs (try picking that up with tolit paper !) so if she is still runny bu saturday,i will take a sample to the vets I hear ya - Max had a reaction to a worming tablet a couple of weeks ago and I spent almost 7 days cleaning up runny poo. Living in an apartment with a dog with the runs is a nightmare. I'm lucky that 90% of the time, he made it to his puppy pads or the balcony to do it. But I went through a 30 pack of puppy pads in one week and I had to almost chisel the stuff off the balcony after it dried! *LOL* Ewwwwwww! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximum Posted February 4, 2009 Author Share Posted February 4, 2009 Have a good look at the teeth between his upper canines? There should be 6 little incisors there? Are there 6 and are they all the same size?Incisor teeth are usually the first to be replaced and between 4-5 months is the usual start time. He may also be replacing molars as well with the big adult canines around the last to arrive. He may be teething already but if not, he's bound to start soon. And yes, a lot of chewing can be expected. Thank you - I'll have a look tonight. I've noticed that he has some adult teeth coming through (molars, I suspect) into a previously empty part of the gums, somewhere between the canines and back molars. He's been a big chewer since day one and I've bought him loads of chew toys, which I rotate on a regular basis. Plus pigs ears and other chewy things. Actually, that's another question - I bought him a new Kong the other day and it absolutely STINKS to high heaven. An awful new rubber smell. I rinsed and rinsed, then eventually ended up running it through the dishwasher. Did absolutely NOTHING to get rid of the smell. I haven't given it to Max yet, as he was given some other new toys the day I bought the Kong. Do you think the smell will bother him and has anyone else had a problem with this? Most plastic chew toys have some smell when new, but nothing that can't be washed off and certainly nothing like this Kong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini_M Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hi Maximum, Our breeder said to ask our vet to pull Milo's remaining baby teeth at the time of desexing, all her poodles get this done. Our vet also said that he usually does this. Maybe Max being part poodle needs this as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Max has a big, stuffed bear that he loves. He's always 'humped' it nightly *LOL*, but he's now getting erections (and worse, but I'll spare you the details) while he's doing it. He also gets them sometimes when I play 'rougher' games with him, or when he's excited to see me. (God, there are SO many one liners in there...I never thought I'd be embarrassed to talk about pet sexuality!) Oh no.. my boy does this too! He is 20 weeks old and it's been going on for close to a month now. Only 'humps' his big stuffed dragon at night after tea then looks between his legs and chases his own bits I've also noticed that he gets an erection over anything midly exciting ie. new bone/new toy/the cat.... My breeder said to just ignore him and not let him become too fixated on it or allow him to 'hump' to get attention. He is also teething but lost his first baby tooth at about 11 weeks, right now he is in the process of losing his canines and particularly naughty (not top mention he has the runs ) Actually, that's another question - I bought him a new Kong the other day and it absolutely STINKS to high heaven. An awful new rubber smell. I rinsed and rinsed, then eventually ended up running it through the dishwasher. Did absolutely NOTHING to get rid of the smell. I've had Kongs that stink too seems to go away after a few washes and a week or so 'airing' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximum Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hi Maximum,Our breeder said to ask our vet to pull Milo's remaining baby teeth at the time of desexing, all her poodles get this done. Our vet also said that he usually does this. Maybe Max being part poodle needs this as well? G'day, Mini_M You're probably right. I guess it just depends upon what happens in the next few weeks and when I get him 'snipped'. God, it sounds so dreadful - I have really bad teeth problems myself and since I was a child, I've had approximately 19 teeth extracted. (Sounds like I have no teeth - I grew a partial second set of adult teeth as a child and had to have them pulled.) I can't imagine inflicting that on my puppy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximum Posted February 5, 2009 Author Share Posted February 5, 2009 Oh no.. my boy does this too! He is 20 weeks old and it's been going on for close to a month now. Only 'humps' his big stuffed dragon at night after tea then looks between his legs and chases his own bits I've also noticed that he gets an erection over anything midly exciting ie. new bone/new toy/the cat.... My breeder said to just ignore him and not let him become too fixated on it or allow him to 'hump' to get attention. He is also teething but lost his first baby tooth at about 11 weeks, right now he is in the process of losing his canines and particularly naughty (not top mention he has the runs ) Actually, that's another question - I bought him a new Kong the other day and it absolutely STINKS to high heaven. An awful new rubber smell. I rinsed and rinsed, then eventually ended up running it through the dishwasher. Did absolutely NOTHING to get rid of the smell. I've had Kongs that stink too seems to go away after a few washes and a week or so 'airing' Hi, SecretKei I'm absolutely giggling my arse off at this conversation! Heaven forbid that at 38, I'd actually be able to discuss dog 'stiffies' without cracking up... Max sounds EXACTLY like your boy - he does the bear humping right after tea, too. Drags his bear from wherever it is to somewhere I can't see him, because I laugh my head off at him and he HATES it! Then he'll reappear about 10 minutes later, looking between his legs and appearing to be very perplexed over the whole thing. First time it happened, he had the most hilarious look of shock on his face and wouldn't raise his tummy from the carpet until it went away!!! I couldn't stop laughing! Yes, he 'cracks a fat' over just about everything these days too. *sigh* I see males are all alike, no matter what the species...*hehehehe*!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm glad the Kong will lose it's Pong...*hehehe* I couldn't resist that! I've been dying to leave it for Max one morning when I go to work, but I don't want to do this until I can't detect an odour from it. I don't want Max to smell it and get turned off Kongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoremIpsum Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 that post made my day !!!! ,Leiht is also Teethng,so im off t by a big bone-ll 3 so they all get 1 (she ate 3 pig ears in 5 minets !) still cant get her to tolit outside ,and she started to having firm bowel movements,but now again the runs (try picking that up with tolit paper !) so if she is still runny bu saturday,i will take a sample to the vets Three pigs ears is too much for a pup, and probably why she got the runs! They are high in fat and a treat rather than food — better to give her one a couple of times a week when you want to keep her occupied for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Fox Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 Hi, SecretKeiI'm absolutely giggling my arse off at this conversation! Heaven forbid that at 38, I'd actually be able to discuss dog 'stiffies' without cracking up... Max sounds EXACTLY like your boy - he does the bear humping right after tea, too. Drags his bear from wherever it is to somewhere I can't see him, because I laugh my head off at him and he HATES it! Then he'll reappear about 10 minutes later, looking between his legs and appearing to be very perplexed over the whole thing. First time it happened, he had the most hilarious look of shock on his face and wouldn't raise his tummy from the carpet until it went away!!! I couldn't stop laughing! Yes, he 'cracks a fat' over just about everything these days too. *sigh* I see males are all alike, no matter what the species...*hehehehe*!!!!!!!!!!!! Let's hope they grow out of it Kei is just FASCINATED by what's going on down there... I guess most men are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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