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Great the xrays have come back clear,hope the verterbrae is nothing.

Having said that I would now take him to see a Bowen therapist or similar. My boy had some gait issues and just could not hold a stack even if he wanted to - he tried but you could see it was uncomfortable. He also would aframe and drop his wither. After some Bowen he stands completely differently and is up and over his front legs. I do have to get it done from time to time to maintain it.

He may have some soft tissue things going on that xrays cannot pick up and I have to say unless your vet is a chiro or bowen therapist as well they will not look for or find it.

I will be taking him back to Green Dale in a months time so the chiro can have another look at him, I think with the combine efforts of the ciro and vet things will start to look a little more up hill, its day 1 of crating for Gus until we can figure out how to block off those stairs! neighbours are going to LOOOVE me :)

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Went to show training last night and I must praise my show trainer once again because she is bloody brilliant, she has suggested that Gus may very well have a partially ruptured crucial stifle ligament and x-rays obvioulsy will not pick this up, she also made me feel inside his crucial ligaments and one side is significatly bigger then the other so she has told me to see Blair at quakers hill vet cross fingers its not completely torn or ruptured because that will require surgery.... (i'm still struggling to get a decent "stand" photo of him I do apologise)

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You could always try massive doses of vit C.

how much is a massive dose?

I gave a Whippet six 1000 IU tablets twice a day till the condition improved.

You can not overdose so I have been told. They only pee out what they don't use.

Excessive excess can give them diarohea. If they get that, time to reduce the dose a bit.

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What is the calcium % in the Artemis? Can't find it listed for them and it always concerns me when you don't have a full analysis.

Where are you located for the specialist? I can't recommend one in particular, but perhaps others can.

Also when did you first notice he might have a problem? Was it before or after you switched to the Artemis?

Go to the US website, click on the product, then click on Complete Nutritional Analysis, which shows the As Fed levels of Calcium and Phosphorus.

You probably already know this, and I don't mean to sound patronising, but it might be helpful to other posters/visitors to the site... The As Fed levels in the Complete Nutritional Analysis are what you actually get in the bag, while the Guaranteed Analysis is the guaranteed minimum.

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I don't know why the Aussie website doesn't have this option :shrug:

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What is the calcium % in the Artemis? Can't find it listed for them and it always concerns me when you don't have a full analysis.

Where are you located for the specialist? I can't recommend one in particular, but perhaps others can.

Also when did you first notice he might have a problem? Was it before or after you switched to the Artemis?

Go to the US website, click on the product, then click on Complete Nutritional Analysis, which shows the As Fed levels of Calcium and Phosphorus.

You probably already know this, and I don't mean to sound patronising, but it might be helpful to other posters/visitors to the site... The As Fed levels are what you actually get in the bag, while the Guaranteed Analysis is the guaranteed minimum.

ETA:

I don't know why the Aussie website doesn't have this option :shrug:

As you have looked it up, you may want to post the % then? .....

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What is the calcium % in the Artemis? Can't find it listed for them and it always concerns me when you don't have a full analysis.

Where are you located for the specialist? I can't recommend one in particular, but perhaps others can.

Also when did you first notice he might have a problem? Was it before or after you switched to the Artemis?

Go to the US website, click on the product, then click on Complete Nutritional Analysis, which shows the As Fed levels of Calcium and Phosphorus.

You probably already know this, and I don't mean to sound patronising, but it might be helpful to other posters/visitors to the site... The As Fed levels are what you actually get in the bag, while the Guaranteed Analysis is the guaranteed minimum.

ETA:

I don't know why the Aussie website doesn't have this option :shrug:

As you have looked it up, you may want to post the % then? .....

The As Fed Calcium to Phosphorus ratio of the Artemis Medium/Large Breed Puppy dry food is 1.5 : 1.1. I didn't mention this before because I wasn't sure which Artemis product TCM has been feeding Gus (I realise he is 12 months old, but not everyone feeds a puppy-specific food).

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What is the calcium % in the Artemis? Can't find it listed for them and it always concerns me when you don't have a full analysis.

Where are you located for the specialist? I can't recommend one in particular, but perhaps others can.

Also when did you first notice he might have a problem? Was it before or after you switched to the Artemis?

Go to the US website, click on the product, then click on Complete Nutritional Analysis, which shows the As Fed levels of Calcium and Phosphorus.

You probably already know this, and I don't mean to sound patronising, but it might be helpful to other posters/visitors to the site... The As Fed levels are what you actually get in the bag, while the Guaranteed Analysis is the guaranteed minimum.

ETA:

I don't know why the Aussie website doesn't have this option :shrug:

As you have looked it up, you may want to post the % then? .....

The As Fed Calcium to Phosphorus ratio of the Artemis Medium/Large Breed Puppy dry food is 1.5 : 1.1. I didn't mention this before because I wasn't sure which Artemis product TCM has been feeding Gus (I realise he is 12 months old, but not everyone feeds a puppy-specific food).

I dont feed him puppy, he hasnt been on puppy food since 8 months.. he is on adult large

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What is the calcium % in the Artemis? Can't find it listed for them and it always concerns me when you don't have a full analysis.

Where are you located for the specialist? I can't recommend one in particular, but perhaps others can.

Also when did you first notice he might have a problem? Was it before or after you switched to the Artemis?

Go to the US website, click on the product, then click on Complete Nutritional Analysis, which shows the As Fed levels of Calcium and Phosphorus.

You probably already know this, and I don't mean to sound patronising, but it might be helpful to other posters/visitors to the site... The As Fed levels are what you actually get in the bag, while the Guaranteed Analysis is the guaranteed minimum.

ETA:

I don't know why the Aussie website doesn't have this option :shrug:

As you have looked it up, you may want to post the % then? .....

The As Fed Calcium to Phosphorus ratio of the Artemis Medium/Large Breed Puppy dry food is 1.5 : 1.1. I didn't mention this before because I wasn't sure which Artemis product TCM has been feeding Gus (I realise he is 12 months old, but not everyone feeds a puppy-specific food).

I dont feed him puppy, he hasnt been on puppy food since 8 months.. he is on adult large

The As Fed Calcium to Phosphorus ratio of the Artemis Fresh Mix Adult dry food (is this the one you mean?) is 1.5 : 1.0.

Here is a link to the website. Hope this helps :)

http://www.artemiscompany.com/products_detail.asp?product=adult_dog

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A well-known and respected Canine Chiropractor in Victoria feeds and recommends Artemis, so I can't imagine that it would be the food causing the problem, but hey - I'm no expert :)

Here are his details:

Dr Barry Haywood

745 North Rd

Cranbourne South VIC 3977

Phone (03) 5978 5174

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I can imagine Barry having a stern word or two to say about those stairs. The last time I saw him (many years ago), he gave me a telling off because I let my Lab go up and down just two, not very high, back steps :laugh:

He has a gruff bedside manner but he is very popular down here with Greyhound and Labrador breeders.

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I'm in NSW unfortunatly but the stairs are an issue which is why Gus is being crated for a while and he needs to be carried up and down the stairs.....

Yep, I knew you were in NSW :)

Barry might be able to recommend someone good near you.

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