Lollipup Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Can someone please post the link to the sick border collie puppy thread? I want the link to post as part of my reply to this post on a FB page: expressions of interest: thinking of breeding my wheaton border collie with either another wheaton or a chocolate would anyone be interested in pups? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgieB Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) http://www.dolforums...der-collie-pup/ ETA: Might want to find something on the risks of mating two red BCs resulting in double merles too Edited November 24, 2012 by GeorgieB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipup Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) Thank you! I will look up the red to red mating issue too. ETA I'm not sure where to look for a good link on that? Edited November 24, 2012 by Lollipup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancinbcs Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 It would also be handy if they actually knew that the dogs are in fact red not wheaten. :banghead: Oh and that the most likely outcome of red to choc is black :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipup Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 This was my reply, trying to be nice: Please make sure you get both parents testes for hips, elbows, CEA, CL & TNS. These are all common border collie heridary diseases which are not necessarily seen in the parents and some are fatal. I would hate for you to breed affected puppies who will break their new owners' hearts due a fatal disease. Breeding for colour is often the way these diseases are produced. The corect term for the colour you are referring to is red, not wheaten. I own one who came from a registered breeder and he developed elbow dysplasia at 4 months of age. I would not wish anyone to go through what we have been through with him. Please think about the decision to breed carefully - if its a hobby you really wish to pursue, contact a registered ethical breeder who performs all health tests and have them mentor you. Have a read of this thread, it shows the heart break that happens when border collies are not health tested. http://www.dolforums.com.au/topic/238882-sick-border-collie-pup/ There are also a lot of expressions of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgieB Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 on being nice, I've just posted the same thread to a friend of mine too. It's hard to get the information out if you just throw it at them like they are the devil incarnate particularly when they are such nice people :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipup Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 corrected my reply to say tested, not testes :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgieB Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) Haha I didn't even notice that I don't know of a good link for the Red to Red thing either http://www.bryningbo...-Collie-Colours this is all I can find and its a lot of information and might be a bit overwhelming. The ee Red issue is only briefly mentioned. and only mentions breeding Red to Merle.. not Red to Red, which has exactly the same issue. Edited November 24, 2012 by GeorgieB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipup Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 Haha I didn't even notice that I don't know of a good link for the Red to Red thing either http://www.bryningbo...-Collie-Colours this is all I can find and its a lot of information and might be a bit overwhelming. The ee Red issue is only briefly mentioned. and only mentions breeding Red to Merle.. not Red to Red, which has exactly the same issue. Thanks. I mentioned the issue in a following post and also mentioned that if they mate red to choc they will most likely get black. I won't put a link unless they ask, they will most likely attack me now anyway. Hopefully it will make them think although this was a following post by them, someone asked, are you a registered breeder and then they wrote this: We had a litter last year and sold black and whites for 300 for male and 350 for female but these will be chocolate and Wheaton and possibly tri colour so will be more, I'm not registered as yet but am thinking I might but I can still sell them as purebreds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgieB Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I wonder if they think a chocolate tri is a choc BC with red points from the Red parent. Misunderstanding colour genetics would be cute if it wasn't so worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipup Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 I know, like a friend of mine who bred her dark brown mare to a black stallion and got a chestnut foal and just couldn't understand how that happened, they wanted a dark foal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simply Grand Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) Lovely attitude and clearly a good understanding of colour genetics *eye roll* Your post is good Lollipup, hopefully even if it doesn't get through to the "breeder" it might to some of the others who read it. Edited November 24, 2012 by Simply Grand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollipup Posted November 24, 2012 Author Share Posted November 24, 2012 Lovely attitude and clearly a good understanding of colour genetics *eye roll* Your post is good Lollipup, hopefully even if it doesn't get through to the "breeder" it might to some of the others who read it. Hopefully it influences the prospective buyers, they have had 3 put their hand up for a pup so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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