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Daisy walks on a loose leash even when scenting. My sibe doesn't mind a sniff or two or three but it is nothing like Daisys scent drive! Lol.

Daisy walks on a loose leash even when scenting. My sibe doesn't mind a sniff or two or three but it is nothing like Daisys scent drive! Lol.

Besides how boring would it be for a scent hound to not be allowed to scent on a casual walk unless I said ok. If I didn't mind having a dog who likes to put her nose to the ground I wouldn't own a scent hound. LOL.

BB I understand being stricter with dogs who are pushier or more dominant or a dog you are having problems with but Nekhbets post was referring to dogs in general. She said if you don't have your dog by your side you have little or not control at all, I was simply pointing out IMO that is not always the case. If I want 110% focus and precision I will call my dog into heel position. I have no desire to have her walk like that all the time.

LOL Rubystar, Daisy can be quite vocal so a woof of frustration is not uncommon for her

I just don't see how dogs being in front of you mean you have no or little control, I can think of plenty of instances where working dogs need to be in front - sled dogs, tracking/SAR dogs, police dogs, PP dogs would all work in front of the handler at some stage but the handler still has control.

My dogs don't walk far in front of me, and they stop when I stop, look to me for direction, respond if I call them into heel position or ask them to 'look'. I have no desire to be so strict on my walks that they must walk precisely by my side the entire time, and owning a scent hound, putting her nose down for a sniff is a default instinct - who cares if she sniffs when she's a on walk, as long as she is not pulling and listens to me when I ask her to? My dogs aren't stupid, they are able to remain responsive whilst walking a little bit in front of me.

Oh God that's devastating Run free TBCSITW and Jed's other much loved doggies

I don't care where my dogs walk as long as they aren't pulling. I don't mind if they sniff (I do own a scent hound after all) but I also expect that when I give a command (i.e. look or heel) that they will comply. I also don't like excessive marking and when I stop or say wait or hold the leash tight I expect them to stop and wait for my ok to continue.

Wow thanks for all the comments everyone! I feel much better today I agree it is quite old fashioned thinking, it is a clicker based class so you think they would be more open minded but obviously not. There are lots of areas I know I need to improve on but I KNOW Daisy loves doing SD and she is good at it and it definitely does not confuse her and I know way too many excellent triallers who start teaching UD type exercises from early on to worry that I'm going to stuff my dog up. Seita we should organise another training session soon!

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You'll just have to move to Brissy

I love to get constructive criticism and advice (god knows we need it) but I also know the method of training we do works really well for Daisy and for that reason I am quite confident with the method we use. I am used to people not understanding why I do x y and z because the method I use is not something that everyone understands or would use themselves but the thing that through me tonight was being told off for something that I know so many people do! (teaching more "advanced" exercises than the level you are trialling at).

LOL yeah I guess so hehe. I don't know I just felt like a terrible dog owner who couldn't do anything right and was ruining my dog... I know we are far from perfect but I felt really proud of how she was working and we just got looked at like we were total crap. I know I am being really sensitive but it made me feel bad because Daisy was working her little heart out and got every single article right too

Thanks guys It wasn't even really about a method, just the fact I was teaching an exercise that was higher up than CCD! Grrrrrr.... anyway, I made a mistake and learnt from it and won't be participating in the class EVER again

Ugh what a crappy night at training. Daisy was working quite well but the people I usually train with couldn't make it so I decided to jump into a little casual trialling class that is run on the grounds. Never again I was excited to get feedback from other people but all I got was negative remark after negative remark even when I tried to explain the reasons I do things (i.e. I had my treat pouch on because I didn't have big enough pockets in my pants, Daisy can work with or without the treat pouch there it does not make a difference to her at all). We did not get a single piece of encouragement or positive comment. Everyone broke off to do their own thing and I got Daisy's articles out to give them a go. She was working really well and one of the ladies in the class came over and said "You shouldn't be doing that. That is an exercise from a higher level and you are just confusing her!" I explained we have been doing SD for months now and Daisy never gets confused, in fact it's improved our training as doing different things makes it exciting for her. She argued with me and kept telling me I was basically stuffing up my own dog, and that if I was trialling and another dog was doing the exercise in another ring she would run off to do it (WTF). Trying to end the conversation I said that obviously the people I train with and talk to do things differently, and she said "well then why do you come here?" I said I don't know what you mean? She said that if I don't like the way they train I shouldn't bother coming Considering this was my first time in the class I had no idea "how" they trained, I thought it was just a casual trialling class and I was totally minding my own business when everyone was off doing their own thing. She then went off to where a group of other people were standing and told them what I was doing and THEN went and told the instructor! Who did give me some constructive advice on my handling but again... lots of negative things but not one remotely positive comment. I felt like a little kid getting in trouble and they made me feel totally crap about my dog. I tried to be light hearted and friendly but I ended up leaving early, I am a bit sensitive at the moment and just felt like crying, and I knew I was making it a crappy session for Daisy. Ugh sorry to vent just had to get that all off my chest!! Will never make the mistake of joining in that class ever again!

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Carole Bryant is an accredited Tellington TTouch practitioner (Companion Animals); an Australian Traditional Medicine Society (ATMS) accredited Naturopath who works with people, pets and livestock; a Dogs NSW qualified dog obedience instructor and Behavioural Dog Trainer (Delta Society CGC Instructor). She breeds German Shepherd Dogs under her Tristania prefix and competes with her dogs in Obedience, Tracking, Agility, Jumpers, Herding and Endurance competitions, and occasionally shows her dogs. Carole has a special interest in using natural therapies to improve behaviour and performance in animals.

Posting on behalf of a friend who is organising this Caboolture Sports Dog Obedience Club Presents Introduction to Tellington TTouch - a workshop with Tellington TTouch practitioner Carole Bryant Where: Caboolture Dog Sports Club, Devine Court, Morayfield Time: Saturday 25th September 1-5pm & Sunday 26th September at 9-1pm Cost: $35.00 per person (limited spaces available) Please bring a chair. To book your place, please pay by cheque or money order to Caboolture Sports Dog Obedience Club PO Box 491 Morayfield Qld 4506 Or contact Jane on (07) 5496 4121 - [email protected] Afternoon and morning refreshments provided

Hesapandabear nic wasn't referring to you.

Just caught the end of the channel ten news story - they are still saying the dogs are with the RSPCA. They showed some of the dogs they rescued, poor babies

Oh f*** Jed my heart is breaking for you. I am in Brissy, I will make a donation too but any help required with the dogs please let me know. When I read the RSPCA were onto it I too thought that would be the last thing Jed would want, I am happy to help in anyway I can.

Yep it's definitely fun and I thoroughly enjoy training but I get nervous just thinkng about trialling ultimately I will be happy if we get out there and she works well regardless of if we pass or fail ;)

LOL I think I will only be telling a select few the date of my first trial If we do ok then they can come to the next one Keeping in mind one of the three trials I am planning to enter is at our obedience club so it's quite inevitable we will have a bit of an audience