Bilbo Baggins

Can you tell us how many are MRI screening every dog they breed, both parents? The ones I have found that have done some scans, have only done a dog here or there, they were not doing both parents of every breeding. With out doing both parents of every breeding, the breeders can not follow the recommended breeding directives, which have been shown to reduce the number of affected pups. Also is there any movement towards making breeding directives with manditory MRI screeing on both parents of all litters? BTW all breeders that have hips, elbows or shoulder scored all have to be put under to be tested. All breeders that do BEAR testing have to put their dogs under. All breeders who place pups on desexing agreements have these dogs put under to have the surgery. There are countless other examples. I do not think that this is a good excuse for not doing the testing. If the breed also has a real problem with tolerating anaesthesia, then that is another matter that needs to be looked at very closely as it could be realated to other health problems that need to brought to light. I realize other tests require a GA. But because the MRI is very expensive $1200 to $1500 dollars, risk of death and not conclusive you have to weigh up the odds.

It is definitely not as prevalent here as the UK.

I have done it in cats but not dogs. Because usually dogs are only every 6 months and easy to manage where as cats its every 6 weeks.

Congratulations Rebanne. Well done Fern. Gorgeous colours. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Well I got my grandma sorted I pee on the kitchen floor 2 cms from the doggy door. :D :D :D :D :D :D I do this after I have poked my nose outside to check the weather. My silly mum and the other relos all brave the weather but if its raining they go on the veranda. :D :D

Well I checked on Miss Rosie this morning and she is preggers felt 2 big lumps and 1 small. She is not eating again so no point taking photos as she is not fat. 4 weeks today.

BB there is a genetic test that can determine the NBT gene. We have used it on a few of our Tenterfield terriers to show a dog has not been docked. I believe there is a DNA marker.

I can't read the study so cannot answer your question. However as far as I know there are no breeders in Asutralia that are MRI screening all of their breeding dogs. I think the Uk is further ahead with more breeders screening, but it is still optional I believe. As long as Oz does their own study and scans several hundred dogs and gets totally different results which shows it is not a problem over here, that would be great! But until then, I think we can only go on the breed information that has already been obtained. Even if they are off by half and the affected rate is 35% it is still way too high. This is not my breed, but it is my registry and we are now all held to account. Clearly this will come under review soon in OZ and with out any clear plans to address this problem I fear for the future of this breed and the impact it will have on all breeds and breeders in the ANKC. shortstep there are quite a few breeders in NSW doing MRI's. Some Victorian's fly their dog to Sydney and pick up by a local taken in done and put back on a flight and that is cheaper than having it done in Vic. But some dogs have died under the anaesthetic so there are risks.

I think "Hounds Working" has a better ring to it (pardon the pun) :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

WoooHoooo excitement. Hope all goes well.

Welcome to DOL and good luck with your litter.

I dont think that is group 5 Sway Its the NEW group 5. :rofl: :rofl:

Well done :cheer:

:rofl: We had a rescue dog who did have problems and he apparently did arch up to a person in the house. Turns out he was correct she did them over with the kitchen renos. He knew. ;) ;) ;)

No Kirty is not one off and 2 clear parent can give an affected pup. Hopefully DNA will help in eliminating the occurrence.

All about our very own Allerzeit. :laugh: :laugh:

That vid is a cracker. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

No i rang vic dogs today they said you do, quite funny realy i asked what could be used and she said bank account or maybe birth certificate but neither would have a address on it anyway even if she had one I think its to do with the recent changes . Im sure ill work it out ty all for your help Send her a letter. :laugh:

It is held on the Showground/Dog ground....so look for the Showground and you have it !! Going to Conference. :D

britt3 there is a lot in there or they are big. :eek:

Same fence that was written about last time.

Oh yes EF they are still around you can smell the dogs coming.

All this would have been resolved if years ago the Australia card had been brought in. I think the protesters have something to hide.

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Oh gawd, yes! I remember last year being in gumboots and WHITE pants (yay for showing black dogs). Surprisingly I managed to keep from getting totally covered in mud It's the first time in 15 years that we won't be at the Wang show, I feel all nostalgic now I won't miss being up at sparrow fart to help cook breakfast though Allerzeit that was a lovely breakfast. :eat: I recall trying to find a dryish spot in the carpark so I could get out and not get wet feet, no gumboots. :laugh: Must rectify that shortfall in my wardrobe. ;) ;) At least BBJ found a dry spot for the gazebo.