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Most of these articles make peoples choices more confusing & feeling like Sh*t for making certain choices .
Being a dog person & sadly losing many dogs over the years the reality of what is happening in the moment to a fairytale thought process is worlds apart .
More often than not we havent had the privilege of deciding today is the day to plan .
The last thing i can honestly care about is the other dogs when the one dying infront of me is all that matters  & making its last few breathes the most important 5 mins of my life .
I will never be made to feel guilty for not having every dog say goodbye .
For some younger dogs a dog prior to passing having a massive seizure can change the whole dynamics ,some dogs panic ,some dogs will due to the circle of life want to deal with the seizuring dog .
Dogs systems shutting down having a different odour .No one truly knows the answer .
I can safely say after  many dogs being put down the panic & overwhelming moments of them having no control ,knowing something is wrong ,being often vison impaired & deaf the only thing that matters is my soothing hand strokes 
Our dogs have never suffered by not saying goodbye  & the one thing we learnt many years ago is life goes on & ensuring a dog left behind in its new world does so in the lest overwhelming manner is always our new thought process in that moment 

Dog ownership laws in Sweden are very different to Australia.

Most owners here would meet dog owner law in Sweden or the legal requirements daily 

5 hours ago, Loving my Oldies said:

I know this isn't the point of this thread, but I have just been talking to the rescuer for whom I foster (she has been doing this for over 30 years!!!) because she has just posted on her FB page looking for foster carers for four dogs who are coming from the RSPCA.  The RSPCA (Yagoona) has 180 dogs there at the moment and they are not in air conditioning and it is 31C today and 39C tomorrow.  That is just one place in Sydney; considering all the council facilities there must be hundreds if not a couple of thousand impounded dogs all over the place.    

 

It is such an awful situation.  God knows how many cats and kittens there are in these facilities.  

 

And, yes, I did put my hand up for one of the dogs    because there didn't seem to be enough takers and all I could think of was this dreadful heat.  My a/con is already up and away.

But remember this is the same org that pushed for how dogs are housed & if kennels arent scraped of water correctly after hosing its an its an offense.
The RSPCA has no excuse to not have air conditioned facilities .
And before anyone says BUT 
I own boarding kennels 2 big air cons one small no gov grants or people donating money or leaving money in wills .
You provide what is required .
 

I would suggest you read consumer law just as much as once your a breeder you need to understand the expectations as a breeder selling a product whether cross or pure .
 

most vets dont even hand anything out anymore as people dont want them (yes a nightmare for us boarding kennel owners .
I actually as a kennel owner hate those books finding all the stuff required .
Most do print outs with stickers attached & its easy to just pop into the dog folder especially when many are using the 3 yearly or titer route 

multi dog household & its very simple whomever goes out the others just learn & know there to stay home no drama or overthinking otherwise being a multi dog household would be a nightmare .
Only dogs that get managed here are puppies or the elderly seniors everyone else is brought up with life skills & thats just how life is 

I clip one of as a client regularly, but he has chronic health issues .

A light shape trim of tips wont end the world & clip off doesnt mean disaster BUT if the owner is not brushing weekly to the skin then problems can be created with horrid skin under matter coats,felted so bad the skin will take a beating being brushed out BUT even a matted coat once the layers taken off will still need to be brushed to get the last bit unfelted .
Often using a dryer to dry blow is great at helping move dead coat even some matting whilst being brushed 

The problem is owners dont want to shop around or drive further than 10 mins.
As a Boarding kennel owner i see bill of $200 plus for a vaccination & i just think OMFG why would you pay that crazy price .
We have some with vacc,yearly heartworn injection nearly $500 .
People can make smart choices or pay what they want 

7 hours ago, Mairead said:

A terrier in a cat household, and after owning a sighthound might be too big a change, too full-on.

I declare I am biased in favour of sighthounds. Cat-like in many ways.

I had one who knew the catfood was off limits, but what was wrong with just lying down next to it? And if someone saw you take a mouthful, well you just spit it out and say you had nothing to do with it.

Terriers are no more high drive than a sighthound with the same drive .
Having owned Bedlingtons & Sighthounds i can safely tell you there isnt any difference 
Infact not all terriers are created  to act like what people perceive as a terrier & tell people which is ashame as breeds get given a bad rep by poor info .
Many whippet fanciers also own Bedlingtons due to the similarities 

Given the oodles need brushing & clipping then that will not tick the first box .
The other factor as a groomer who refuses to groom oodles due to nutty owners & there "i dont want my dog to look like a Poodle "even though it looks like a Poodle is something he seriously needs to consider .
If you dont brush it & its knotty well it will look like a Poodle .

If hes happy to go with some hair then consider  bedlington terrier.Awesome dogs a whippet in many ways but the Beddie quirks .

14 hours ago, Loving my Oldies said:

If the vet was a normal vet at a clinic, you'd be right in being "mind blown" at my comment.  I have edited my opening post to give an explanation as to how this behaviourist operates.  She is mostly on the road or out at consults, rarely in the office.   

 

 

 

 

That's how many operate nothing out of the ordinary there.

To still think they could have just popped in is still weird.
You know how she operates & that her day is based on a schedule popping in when your day is time planned is very important .
 

It sounds like the vet may feel the same and has given you the opportunity to opt out .
There is a very small number of VET animal behaviourists in Australia .They are often run off their feet & time is well & truly managed ,the deal with dogs with massive issues & owners who have their own baggage & struggles often meeting their homework requirement .
My friend was one but retired due to the demands of this small workforce area & the insane demands & trauma that came with it .
If this person set up isnt for you then pick one that ticks your box 

To be honest you both have your flaws .Your email was rather "i have no idea of the point really except "
They replied to exactly that they made a mistake & if you have an issue happy to hand over .
It reads like you expect alot from over the phone calls that i gather are free .
At one stage, I said to the assistant that I thought the vet could have popped in for a few minutes when she left the script in my letterbox.  I was told, no, she is too busy.  
I actually find this comment mind blowing 

If you dont like the service you got find another vet behaviorist its a pretty simple solution. 

No guarantee at all the urine smell will change .
Some dogs have strong urine nothing to do with hormones .
As a boarding kennel owner we board plenty of spayed dogs whose urine is strong & stinky .
My entire dogs & even stud dogs come no where near the smell .
Diet can make wee smell strong 

2 boys having a fight she tried to separate .

The dog shot there wasn't a choice .

You read on DOL all the time people asking about a second dog want same sex ,people on here fully support ,the people with knowledge point out management issues and being smart the do gooders come back with you won't have problems,ours got on great yadda yadda without understanding the breeds ,scenarios  & lifestyles people wnat to bring them too.

Small suburban yards ,rarely walked and management can be hard and some people won't accept it .
Sad part is the breed will get blamed & all the do gooders will come out of the wood work often the same ones that also suggest getting 2 same sex.


 

Puppies need to be set up for there new life & what that means BUT people need to als factor if using a pen then your also teaching them to be reliant on humans to let them out etc etc .
Sitting in a pen for hrs is boring .

I work from home & the dogs cope easily as they have the backyard to enjoy & then all the other things schedules just like a non working from home life 

54 minutes ago, asal said:

 

at six weeks any puppies bones and ligaments are so pliable he could have diagnosed the whole litter with a push in the right place

 

 

Yep just like the same vets that say HD because they poked & pulled puppies .

Its worrying that some vets make such bold diagnosis at such an age .

My first question would be is this vet knowledgable enough to diagnose it ??
Why did the vet come to this diagnosis??

As to choices thats only something you can decide 

$500 pups ??

2 hours ago, asal said:

 

 

which is exactly what I tried to do. but unfortunately I now know she is as traumatised if not more than her dog. which I didn't realise she was incapable of understanding how important it was she get him help immediately.   Also she didn't tell me how injured she was from trying to hold him and prevent them dragging him away. She still hasn't taken herself to a doctor.

 

didn't go to another vet or seek the help I told her he needed now to help him immediately.

 

I now know she just did not absorb how important it was, she act immediately. Because she could not see how badly he was bitten because his fur hid all the tooth holes she didn't believe me how injured he had to be underneath, out of her vision.

 

She didn't make the vet appointment until the next day and the throat began to weep. 

 

I did really try to make her understand how important immediate treatment was needed as all bites would become infected.  By the time the tablets the vet gave her began to work he was leaking fluid and pus like a sieve and she finally realised the extent of his injuries and skin began to die. I dont think even that vet did either.

 

she lives far away from me so could only give advice over the phone.

 

I deliberately did not tell her how close he was to being torn apart in front of her or the extent I suspect his injuries probably were as I didn't want to freak her out.   maybe i under played the importance? I dont know. I sure did expect any competent vet would have done a way better job of assessing his damage than that vet ?

 

Sad situation for both & sounds like she needs  help .
Hard when your not close by & trying to be respectful of the language used but it may be time to slightly up the "importance" aspect .
Maybe if she is going to the vet again you may be able to do a phone chat whilst she is there to be the ears ,its atricky one one of not wanting the vet to think she is incompetent to look after but more stressing that she needs a level head to hear what is being said at the moment as it was such a stressful moment .

This dog will be sore even from bruising so even every day patting,touching ,picking up will impact all things 
 

AS this dog is a support dog then there needs to be a very grown up approach to the trauma this dog has gone through & the expectations on the dog at present being  unable to do its job  & that rushing to get a quick fix wont happen & may never happen .
Its trauma is more than just giving it medication especially if the dog is expected to continue its previous life .
Most vets are not qualified to give the moving forward advice that meds & a rehab plan needs .
The owner & those supporting als need to be on the same page of reality & not fantasy 
The antibiotic path is not as cut n dry & vets have so many different legal rules these days .
They may also have opted not to dispense behaviour meds at that moment due to the side effects it can cause & not knowing what is due to the attack & what is med related .
Everyone needs to apply a common sense head not a gun ho vet is an idiot shoulda,woulda,coulda approach .
If the vet cant help moving forward change if the owner is happy with the vet thats their business but the journey off reconditioning needs to be done by people with a smart head & correct non emotional advice ,those helping this person also need to use a non emotional approach in making sure info given is heard correctly or an ear of listening is a good one .
This is a situation regardless life wont be the same & a struggle for both .
Someone needs to advocate for the dog just as much for the human in creating a happy pathway moving forward.


 

We use technyflex powder & had great success.
One dog also gets antinol which i buy direct .
Many who use antinol use it for one dose & use the human lyprinol for the other to make it more viable 

On the topic of exercise it just makes them fitter not drained it means each week they need more exercise to feed the body its an area you wont beat .
Your better off looking at mind games which do make the dog tired ,teaches one on one focus & NILIF (nothing in life is free).
I have large breeds & dont do dog parks & would never do so with anything under 12 months .
Too many life skills go wrong happen there & just one moment of bullying & your up &hit creek for life .
My large breed showdogs are taught other dogs dont exist ,im the high value treat .
My current boy who is bright as anything would happily run around an oval & he would learn no life skills whats ever except free range madness.
Im a big believer in all puppies but large breed teaching mind & body co ordination skills,teaching them focus & body awareness training .So may cheap items can be bought for this & both dogs can enjoy it  .

As for 2 girls yes we dont recommend it but you have them now so Mangement is a must keeping in mind the drama doesnt usually happen until adults when pushing the order happens or poking the bear .
We had 2 best friends who one day turned into world war 3 & had to be separated for life they ticked the box"bitches" bigtime .
What i would be managing in the pup is how to cope with not having to protect its human all the time & the skills to switch off .
The combo throws in alot of different mindsets ,jobs & traits .
The power aspect alone is a big factor when it comes to controlling the leash in adulthood .
I would suggest life skills for one on one outings is way more important than dog park running .
The first 8 months pups are like sponges in learning ,9 months on that brain starts to be independant so for me instilling foundations that make life nice is so much more important than meeting dogs especially in a powerful breed .

I would tend to go more for a Guide dog principal of training especially if your mobility is an issue ,give the pup jobs to do now to ensure the outside world is you only .
So many owners teach higher value of other dogs in there pups first off instead of the reverse .
I go with if my dog doesnt like other dogs i still have 12 plus years out in public & the public manners are more important than a dogpark whether it be sitting in the vet,at a pet friendly cafe or for my dogs Showdogs in public .

15 hours ago, ~Anne~ said:

We will have to agree to disagree. A The legal advice I’ve received over the years have indicated contracts do not stand up in court, especially when unreasonable.
 

In addition, you can’t enforce something which is breaking a law. If in NSW any breeder who does not reassign the microchip is breaking the law. This is an offence which is legislated in parliament. It’s not a guideline, but law. 
 

edited to also add - the breeder in this scenario obviously doesn’t think their contract stands up either otherwise they wouldn’t be threatening to withhold legal paperwork. 
 
 

 

Microchip papers is not pedigree papers all breeders have to follow microchip paper rules thats a given as do rescues in all States .
Change of ownership papers would be referring to the pedigree papers so i think your confused about what the OP has posted so the info your given isnt correct .

We have a 100% follow through on our contract to spay puppies & have legally pursued 1 buyer who learnt quickly lying about there intentions does not make them win either .
Contracts are also based on the fact the item is sold outlining its suitable use .
If the contract states no breeding due to a bad mouth,DNA tests results making it a carrier etc then the contract is fit for purpose outling all this .
If sold as a carrier then paperwork again would clearly outline all this in the sale contract 

Sadly this is why some breeders have chosen to spay /vasectomy prior to sale which is not a path we wish to do .
Thankfully we have retired from breeding so dont have to deal with certain aspects anymore .

The pup we did sell to the contract lawyer did develop a bad mouth after we ran it on & was rehomed based on the contract outling this clearly ,what it wasnt suitable for & due to age spaying to be done at X age for growth.
Contracts do stand providing they are reasonable requirements.

59 minutes ago, Princess Fru Fru said:

Can you try contacting the state body he's registered with and explaining your situation?  I believe members of Dogs West at one stage weren't required to provide papers for dogs to new owners but upon checking their regulations, this has been changed and now the pedigree must be provided.

This is not true .
WA breeders dont have to provide papers .
A process must be clearly defined before sale .
WA breeders can use the Non Transfer agreement form 
I/We, the undersigned, acknowledge that it has been fully explained to me/us that the above dog is registered with Dogs West in the current owners name, and will remain registered in that name in accordance with the following regulation - R11 which states:  THIS AGREEMENT IS TO BE SIGNED BY ALL PARTIES Payment By Credit Card Mastercard Visa Other Total Due $ Card No Expiry date / Cardholders Name Signature 11.1 All applications to transfer a dog must be submitted on the Association's form. A seller shall be responsible to transfer the ownership of a dog, when a dog is disposed. A completed transfer of ownership form to the new owner must be submitted by the seller to the Association within 90 days of change of ownership. Where it is agreed by the parties that the dog is to remain in the registered ownership of the seller, then a Non-Transfer agreement must be submitted by the seller on the approved form within 90 days of change of ownership. 11.2 A dog subject to a Non-Transfer agreement shall not be transferred to any other party while an agreement is in effect. A Non-Transfer Agreement can only be cancelled on written request from all parties

3 hours ago, Rascalmyshadow said:

I thought I’d ask on here about one of our dogs and his pedigree papers, we bought him from a registered breeder (yes I did check she’s legitimate) he was purchased on limited registration and I expected to gets his papers the day we collected him (he was 4 months old) the breeder told us she would send them once she had them, a few months went by and she then told me she hadn’t registered the litter yet (he was around 7 months old at this stage) he’s now 16 months old and we still have no papers, just wondering what I can do to obtain them as I’ve never had this issue before and since we paid quite a bit of money for him I expected to get them.

Im going to say if not done by 7 months there is a reason as late penalty fees start to set in .
I would contact the State body with your issue alternatively if you want to send a pm with prefix i can check ANKC database if registered need date of birth