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Get a trainer to show you how to use one. Can be very effective if used correctly- useless if not!

There are many members here who would disagree with you (after their own personal experience) with regards to a professional behaviourists abilities in resolving aggression issues in conjunction with an owner. No one is suggesting its a cure all and will make the dogs best friends but it can't be any worse than the current escalation that you have on your hands right now. What have you got to lose?

There are plenty of exceptional behaviourists who do not offer guarantees. They don't offer guarantees because (a) dogs are not machines that can be programmed and (b) the behaviourist is not the only input into the dog- the owner significantly influences the behaviour of any dog. What nekhbet said.

What do you mean you've tried separation? Have you seen a behaviourist?

I have 5 dogs and they are all inside dogs for the most part, particularly 2 of them who can't be outside for periods when we aren't home as one has allergies that go nuts if she is on the grass too long and the other has HD and ED which means he shouldn't play and run for too long! They don't get many formal walks as such but they come to lots of places, do lots of little training sessions etc. They are all a bit different with what they like so we cater to that too. They hate going out in awful weather and so do i so we might do something else or they might just spend the day with us lying on the couch.

Although by the definition mentioned we're not a DAB- we had to register as one too for a numbr of councils- they are all different in what they require. Hopefully the 'not for profit' nature of the organisation can help you.

I didn't say anything about giving a pup away- i asked what you were doing differently. You can't do the same thing as with the last pup and expect a different result. Maybe have a look at the tricks in the training forum and start teaching a few- tricks can help to speed a bond along a bit as can some puppy massage.

Looks too specific for a flea allergy to me. Take the dog to a vet to get it checked. Treating conditions incorrectly can do more harm than good.

Just received confirmation that Worksafe Victoria is going to have an Elf collecting around the workplace- thanks Worksafe!!!

Hope he is okay- i have always loved the pics in your signature of your dogs.

What are you doing differently with this puppy vs the last puppy? What did you change before getting this pup to try to ensure the transition was smoother and this pup was a better fit? What sort of activties are you doing to bond with the pup at the moment?

Wow, i didn't realise Shirley Chong used e collars. As Shirley said, for most dogs- the earlier steps will be sufficient.

Buy the DVD Really Reliable Recall.

This Christmas, there will be many dogs and cats without permanent homes in foster care or waiting patiently in animal shelters in Victoria. This year- you have the chance to do something to help- through Project Underdog! Please help us to reach our goals and make Christmas a little brighter for homeless dogs and cats in Victoria. Your contributions will help the following not for profit organisations- these organisations rely 100% on public donations to continue to operate and they need you! Greyhound Safety Net Australian Animal Protection Society/ Keysborough Animal Shelter Beagle Rescue Victoria Pug Rescue and Adoption Victoria Victorian Dog Rescue What can you do to help? A-B-C-D-E - Attend our Christmas Party/ 5th Birthday party on the 28th November from 10am- 1:30pm. This event will be a fundraiser for all of the above mentioned groups- entry is free but there will be a range of activtities, stalls, products and services for you to participate in, including the Underdog Christmas Show, Agility, photos with Santa and more! This event will also be the offical launch of Project Underdog- Christmas Wishing Tree which will run from the 26th November until 23rd December- donations of pet supplies are placed under the tree to be distributed to the above groups- its like the annual Kmart wishing tree, but for dogs and cats! - Become a Project Underdog Elf and take the Wishing Tree concept to your workplace, sporting club, childrens school etc. We need 100 elves to help us, if you would like to become an elf, please download and print the attached information and take to your chosen location. Donations can be collected at the conclusion of the Wishing Tree period. - Can't attend or get to a Wishing Tree location? Email us for a postal or drop off address for your donations- all pet supplies and monetary donations are gratefully accepted. - Donate pet supplies- Place a gift under the Project Underdog Christmas Wishing Trees- locations in PETstock Ormond, PETstock South Melbourne and PETstock Moonee Ponds www.underdogtraining.com.auwith more locations currently being confirmed. Can you donate a raffle prize- product or service? 100% of the proceeds from the raffle will be donated to the not for profit organisations we are supporting and we need your help to provide great prizes! - Email- Forward this information to your network of friends, colleagues and family members. I know everyone gets asked to forward information regularly- if you forward one email this month let it be this one!! Please take advantage of this opportunity to give this year- consider what your dogs and cats have given you in 2010 and use this as your chance to say thank you!! Please contact us for any enquiries or questions. We hope to have you all on board as our Project Underdog Elves this year. Kind Regards Tamara Jackman and Stuart Mulholland

We have now started to email out all of the Elf information- if you do not receive an email by the end of the week and would like one, please email [email protected] or pm me through DOL. If anyone is willing to donate prizes for a raffle, that would also be fantastic.

Clover he is gorgeous- i saw him last week and he looks like a spunk. Having seen the pups, my guess is Koolie too.

What Aidan said

Are there any photographers (doesn't need to be professional) who would be willing to do some photography at a dog related fundraising event on Sunday 28th November from 10am-1:30pm? All the photographers i know are booked and we're getting desperate!! Please pm or email [email protected] if you can help.

I think we also need to remember that each person is different- what one person finds easy and not in any way a challenge will be extremely difficult to another person. Some dog to dog socialisation at class can be counter productive for some people, particularly with young or inexperienced dogs as it is then very hard for them to get their attention again. The people are learning new skills just as much as the dogs so its important to make it as easy as possible to start with. Some people just don't like obedience and therefore if its not fun for them its not fun for the dog and so the cycle continues! Remember also that some people have had information covered (like manners, dog park rules) in earlier levels of training so then if that is covered- they will be bored too. It is a balancing act in a group class and therein lies one advantage of private training! I completely agree that agility and some other activities are great for bonding, more exciting etc- but the dogs have to be under some form of control before they can participate in such things.

Are there any photographers available on the 28th November for a dog related fundraising event? I have asked all the ones i know and they are all booked so getting a bit desperate!!!

You MUST get a behaviourist. I was chatting to a friend and my OH the other day (we all work with dogs in this way) and we all agreed that every case of issues between dogs that we have seen has been left too long and would have been alot easier to resolve if we had been called out earlier. Don't wait for a fight between the dogs. Whereabouts are you located?

Yes- but find an obedience class that ISN'T boring!!! In saying that- there are also owners who make obedience classes boring through total lack of motivation despite an instructors best efforts.

I don't particularly care what the supposed purpose was- i can't think of any explanation that would in any way justify that kind of abuse.

There is NO excuse for that. Even what he was trying to do he wasn't doing well. Huski do you think you should put a warning in the topic title- some people may not want to watch it.

We will have another Wishing tree location in Melbourne's CBD- more details to come! All the Elf information should be finalised tomorrow so please don't forget to let me know if you can help.