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You join the club in general, and the flyball is included within that They teach right from basic basic, so no need to wait Oh and experienced dogs can join up on days other than the 1st of the month, it's only the beginner, never been to obedience dogs that need to join on the first of the month

Yeah they made them look easy! How did the myth busters go with sneaking past the guard dogs?

I think that about Molly, she isn't alpha, she just wants to be, and tries to act it, and Ed is the calm laid back one who is really the alpha He lets her chew on him, cos I know that he is bigger and stronger than her, and if he didn't want her doing it he would have no troubles getting her to stop

Awesome!!!! Thanks Mal!!! That is too cute!!! They did really good too

Yep, exactly like my 2!

Yeah maybe the problem is the instructor!

good point! I haven't starting commands on the move yet

Yeah I do that abit too! lol

Molly is desexed, Eddie isn't as he gets shown Molly goes through stages of doing it to him, silly girl And she seems to only do it when they are near us

Ed goes through stages of it, he's in one now, he's 20 months and he drives me nuts! His latest after being a wonder dog, is bolting from stays or recalls at obed club, seriously annoying me now, he'll be back on a long line if he does it one more time

Oh Sounds like everyones better off with that then!

Oh thats cute! Wish it was the whole show, would love to see how it ends

love the husband, does he like to be a play toy? :rolleyes:

Oh and meant to say, I'd put Molly in a drop instead of the crate but when she is completely revved up I would have to hold her down, and I don't want to do that, she has calmed down alot in the year we've had her, and she's gone from an absolute lunatic, to an over excited hyper dog lol She's getting there

Thats the thing though, Ed just lets her do it, with no reaction whatsoever, sometimes he will walk off with her still trying to hold onto him, and he never reacts to it, it's very weird! Only very very occasionally if she sits there niggling and niggling at him (chewing on his legs, etc, which she will often do with no reaction from him, he just lies there) for ages he will do a warning growl, and she backs off for a sec, but we've normally distracted her by then anyway It's good to see others alternate with theirs, I had always thought that there must be "meant to be" a top dog, but good to see this is the case, as I didn't want to get it wrong and treat one as top and cause issues

Oh and when Molly is completely over the top she'll get time out, but Ed will normally stay out with us, should I maybe put him in his crate too, they are never put in their crates with a growl, it's always a postive put away so he wouldn't feel punished

So how would you deal with a display like Molly trying to mount Ed? Stop and praise, stop and correct? etc They've never had a fight so it's not gotten to an aggression stage Edited for Leos post! Ed will actualy step back to let Molly go through the door first, like he does with us, which I saw for the first time last night In personality Molly is more dominant as a dog, but she is also very over exitiab;e and I think maybe that is why They also play keeping off games with each other, but once they get bored of it, one or the other will just give the toy up to the other They are so interesting to watch

Our 2 are the same age (by 1 day) and have been together since they were 8 months We have had Ed since 8 weeks and Molly came later Until now there's really been no definite dominant dog between them, Molly is pushier, and Ed lets her do whatever she wants within reason, but will put her in her place if pushed to the absolute limit They are generally fine with food, and will take bones off each other with no fights, Molly sometimes gets snappy if Ed walks near her while she is eating out of her bowl, but no real issues (they will let humans take anythign off them, never a problem) Lately Molly has been trying to mount Ed alot, and we think she is trying to be dominant I don't know whether we should be treating one as the top dog, or keep going as we are, alternating who gets fed first etc I have heard that owners should treat the dog that wants to be dominant as the top dog, but I'm not sure Any thoughts? Or anything else I need to explain better It's not a problem as yet, but I don't want it to turn into one

My vids always go out of synch too, it's annoying Leo is so gorgeous!!! And so clever!

WOOOOOOOO!!!!!! Sorry, couldn't help it! Don't be embarassed, you deserve to be having a good time!

Thanks guys, I think sometimes I forget how to go back to the begining! Cosmolo, yep I'll be there!!! I will look out for you, and Ed is in my sig so you'll probably see him, and his bratty cousin Molly! I'm another one who gets my footwork confused sometimes, and can sometimes throw myself off balance (poor Ed)

lol yep, mine are shocking for popping balls! I've been practising a stationary ball recall too, and it's slowly getting there, I guess at least he picked up the turns and the jumps quickly, so I can concentrate on one thing!

I tried it and Ed moves with me if I don't say wait or stay For someone who has always taught stay/wait, how do you let them know you want them to stay without telling them, how do you retrain? Do you just go back without saying anything and take off again, until they get it

Ed is 20 months now and he still doesn't really care much about toys He loves his food though

Yeah I guess there are good and bad, like by saying wait they may anticipate a recall but then if you are asking for different behaviours on a wait they won't know what to anticipate With regards to having a longer time frame, you would only be giving a time frame that the dog had been trained up to either way so I don't thinkit would make too many problems, I guess by timeframe I mean if I say wait, you just have to wait a little while til I tell you something else, but if I say stay you are to stay there for as long as it takes for me to get back I don't know if I'm making sense! ETA extra comments cos I took so long to post that I missed some comments!