Bsl Victim

[Mrs Rusty Bucket]

Meh, as long as the BITSA results show not a pitbull then I'd be happy with "significant chiuaua".

RIPHERO

Was your dog registered with your local (NSW) council? Microchipped?

Dogs that are not registered with council and microchipped with up to date owner contact details have much shorter life expectancies at the pound than other dogs. However if the dog was registered and microchipped and all that, then the NOI should have happened. And you need to throw the book at the council until they get rid of this dog killing man.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/con...8174/index.html

[RIP HERO]

Meh, as long as the BITSA results show not a pitbull then I'd be happy with "significant chiuaua".

RIPHERO

Was your dog registered with your local (NSW) council? Microchipped?

Dogs that are not registered with council and microchipped with up to date owner contact details have much shorter life expectancies at the pound than other dogs. However if the dog was registered and microchipped and all that, then the NOI should have happened. And you need to throw the book at the council until they get rid of this dog killing man.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/con...8174/index.html

Hey, he was microchipped. The difference is with a microchip a dog is held at the pound for 14 days for owners to claim before they are put up for adoption while no chip means 7 days. This was not the issue here. The problem was the seizure and the breed assessor result....

Edited January 14, 2011 by RIP HERO

[WreckitWhippet]

A breed assessment sougt by anyone other than the owner is NOT valid.

For example if a dog is seized, the ranger cannot simply call in a breed assessor and have them look at the dog in question

For a breed assessment to be valid, the dog must be issued with an NOI ( complete with chip details ) and then the OWNER gets to choose whoever they want from the list available. The breed assessor will then determine the breed or cross and within three days, the results are sent back to council.

If the dog is determined not to be of a restricted breed or cross, the Companion Animals Register is updated with the breed details and the dog is home free.

If the dog is determined to be an RB cross, the owner can then seek a temperament test, again anyone of their choice from the list ( they can travel if they like, to the one they choose or pay for them to come to them )

A ranger can "suspect" a dog to be of a restricted breed or cross, however they do not have the power under the act to be the judge and executioner all in one. That would be a conflict of interest. Rangers are not permitted to be breed assessors or temp testers either, for the purposes of BSL.

ETA: when you choose your breed assessor, you can meet them anywhere in the state at an agreed time and date ( within the 28 days ). You could travel from Bourke to Sydney if you wanted to and the result would still be vaild, providing you stay within the 28 days. The same goes for the temp test.

Breed assessments and TT's should be conducted on neutural territory.

Edited January 14, 2011 by ReadySetGo

[RIP HERO]

A breed assessment sougt by anyone other than the owner is NOT valid.

For example if a dog is seized, the ranger cannot simply call in a breed assessor and have them look at the dog in question

For a breed assessment to be valid, the dog must be issued with an NOI ( complete with chip details ) and then the OWNER gets to choose whoever they want from the list available. The breed assessor will then determine the breed or cross and within three days, the results are sent back to council.

If the dog is determined not to be of a restricted breed or cross, the Companion Animals Register is updated with the breed details and the dog is home free.

If the dog is determined to be an RB cross, the owner can then seek a temperament test, again anyone of their choice from the list ( they can travel if they like, to the one they choose or pay for them to come to them )

A ranger can "suspect" a dog to be of a restricted breed or cross, however they do not have the power under the act to be the judge and executioner all in one. That would be a conflict of interest. Rangers are not permitted to be breed assessors or temp testers either, for the purposes of BSL.

ETA: when you choose your breed assessor, you can meet them anywhere in the state at an agreed time and date ( within the 28 days ). You could travel from Bourke to Sydney if you wanted to and the result would still be vaild, providing you stay within the 28 days. The same goes for the temp test.

Breed assessments and TT's should be conducted on neutural territory.

wow never knew that they cannot get the breed assessor. I cant believe this

[WreckitWhippet]

The ranger could call one in but without an NOI, the breed assessment is not valid. The same stands that an owner of a dog that they ( the owner ) thinks might look a bit like a resticted breed, can't simply call a breed assessor to look at the dog.

The only time a breed assessment is vaild is when it forms part of the NOI process and is the option that the owner chooses. Some may opt to go to court and challenge the NOI, most don't as they have not the money to do so and breed assessment often gives the dog a way out anyway.

Something else you might find usefull is to go back and read are all of the DLG circulars, that pertain to BSL and the process. The DLG circulars to council are informative and interesting

[tobie]

I have been working in animal welfare for over 10 years and am absolutely discusted and horrified to hear that this could happen. I don't understand how anyone could get away with this. Everyone I have ever worked with including myself would never stand by and let this happen nor would any of the shelters volunteers. This person has broken the law and something must be done and the person responsible must be sacked.

You don't need a lawyer if you can't afford it. Contact the local councillors, department of local government, your local MP.

Contact your local newspaper.

Please do something to help stop this from happening again.

[Keira&Phoenix]

I am so sorry for you loss

RIP Hero :D

I have a Amstaff X and I would die if this happened to her, I am going to do whatever it takes to make sure she is safe and sound.

Pursue this as far as you can, make sure they get punished for what they have done to you.

Don't know if you are aware of but take a look at the Tango story (Gold Coast City Council vs Kylie Chivers). Also I am sure John from this story helps people with BSL claims etc so someone on DOL might be able to put you in contact with him.

[wiseguy]

My amstaff hero was 11 months old when the RSPCA came around and i am sharing this story because i know something went terribly wrong. Hero was one of the most obedient dogs ive ever had the fortune of owning, he came into my life when he was 7 weeks old as a gift from friends for getting into vet school. Started training at a very young age and not once did we ever have any type of incident. Not even a growl or a bark at anyone at all. I began socialising him from a young age due to my work i can take him with me to meet hundreds of dogs and people a day. One day as we went for our afternoon walk a little girl came over to give him a hug and ofcourse he was excited as always when her dad came across saying quote ' Dont touch that thing, they eat little kids like you'. I was mind blown and offended to say the least i calmly explained to the man that what he is saying is offensive and far from the truth. Now to the main part. 1 week later the RSPCA came knocking i was not home at the time but other family members were. In short they seized hero. Coming home i was furious and dumbfounded and started making phone calls immedietly. i was given a pound number and told to ask about him the following day. So ofcourse the following day i called and after quoting the number i was given the operator told me that ' that animal was PTS'. You can only imagine what i went through and i think i lost it after that. I could not understand how this was to happen as there are alot of steps that must be taken before any animal is PTS and i believe most of you do know them. I asked if they had a qualified breed assessor( i was told he was assessed and labelled as a Restricted Breed, APBT to be exact.) the answer was no. Then i got a call back saying yes we do, So i promptly went down to speak to this person who was unavailable...MMM? The only thing i could do was take it to court, me being a student i had no sort of money to take it to court and was just soo angry and in loss that i couldnt go through it. 1 year later i still think about him every single day, i still dont understand how anyone could do that to a poor animal especially one like him. I paid a visit to my neighbour thanking him for the loss of my dog and he had nothing to say at all. I understand many of us will disagree on this issue but i would love to hear your opinions and any further questions and advice members can provide. Now im still trying to cope with my loss with Bobby my 8 week old samoyed coming into my life but every day morning and night i pray for Hero and i hope that he didnt pass away in vain and that together we can make a difference. Tears rolling down my face as i remember my best friend i hope a difference is made soon..

Thanks for reading ..

This is a fairy tale I.M.O

The RSPCA doesn't have a mandate to seize animals. They have to make an application, the police seize the animals & then release them into the RSPCA, when it is a case of animal cruelty.

BSL is not an RSPCA issue.