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New English Staffy Puppy Questions - Toilet Training And Registration


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Help!

Our nice little nuclear family of kids, hubby and 2 middle aged girl schnauzers was blasted apart 2 weeks ago when daughter no.3 brought home from the pet shop ( unnanounced *sigh* ) a 9 week girl staffy.

Unfortunately.... We LOVE her. Unfortunately, we also love daughter no.3 or she would have been out of a home!!

The 'girls' ( the schnauzers ) are thankfully fairly patient with this little bullet. but i have some issues i'm not sure about.

1. Charlie ( the staffy ) sleeps outside with the girls and i've not really had an issues with that. However, toilet training her to piddle outside is different. As the girls are predominantly indoor dogs, so by default is Charlie. We;ve got paper in places for her to toilet on, and she is good. she's trying really hard, but how do i get her to go piddle outside. I know she copies the girls with a lot of things, but it seems she's 'learnt' to piddle inside. She sniff's their poos outside, and i've taken her to the local oval at 6 am when no other dogs were about to try to get it out of her system, but it seems she holds untils she's back home and then dashes inside to the paper.

She's REALLY susceptible to 'good dog bad dog' talk and i've got her sitting on command already, so she's readily teachable but i'm not sure what to do about the toileting.

2. When daughter no.3 bought her home, the pet shop papers had the breeders names blanked out. This seems dodgy to me? Surely paying all that money entitles one to know the bloodline? It smacks of just a back yard breeder and the price being trumped up to suit the pet shop. I'm not happy, because we went to a lot of effort with the girls to get well bred dogs that were healthy. Do i have any recourse of action?

3. Tilly the Schnauzer is the non dominant dog. She's quite timid, but also very patient. but there's only so much she can tolerate of having her beard pulled and toes nibbled. I"m allowing her to jump to the highest point on sofas at present ( not usually allowed) just to be out of reach. She occasionally initiates a game with the puppy but gets intimidated by Charlie's boisterousness. I'm trying to line them up ie Tilly 2nd, Charlie 3rd in all things - is this correct? I'm just not sure of intervening in the potential bullying by Charlie. i suspect it would be the right thing to do to give Tilly some support in this. ( the top dog and the cat have NO issues. lol )

any help would be good.

p.s. I have discoverd, after using soapy stuff to clean up dog wee, that metholated spirits is sensational. It lifts all the wee and the colour straight off the carpet.( not the carpet colour) I suspect people would know that here i guess, but i was excited to find that out by accident!

thanks

RobbieRules

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Firstly, welcome :) Secondly, where are the photos? :) We live on photos, so please feed us :rofl:

2. When daughter no.3 bought her home, the pet shop papers had the breeders names blanked out. This seems dodgy to me? Surely paying all that money entitles one to know the bloodline? It smacks of just a back yard breeder and the price being trumped up to suit the pet shop. I'm not happy, because we went to a lot of effort with the girls to get well bred dogs that were healthy. Do i have any recourse of action?

Since staffy baby was purchased from a pet shop, it is almost certain that she is from a back yard breeder and that the price was jacked up for the sole intention of the pet shop making the biggest profit it could. There would be no recourse of action I can think of, and if your little girl was from a BYB then the chances of the bloodline even being known are slim.

I'm curious - what papers did the pet shop provide you with? I read this a lot where people purchase a pup from a pet shop "with papers" and have often wondered what "papers" they are :rofl:

Oh, and did I say photos???

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I never use paper, I train them to go outside from the very beginning, IMO paper can be confusing for the puppy and can actually hinder their toilet training. I also use a crate, if you search DOL for crate training you'll find lots of info. Having a crate will also give the older girls a respite from her as young puppies can try the patience of even the most tolerant dog. BTW I wouldn't take the puppy to the local oval until she's had her 2nd vaccination, at the moment you have no way of knowing if she's fully protected.

As your puppy is from a pet shop she's highly likely to be from a puppy farm or a BYB, what sort of papers does she have?

As you have three females you will have to be careful as the puppy matures. All female households can sometimes have problems so watch body language carefully. Puppy preschool followed by obedience training would be a good idea as staffys are a breed that require plenty of socialisation.

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At the moment she has a kennel, and they have their chair, and she has had her 2nd vaccination, we've just got hte 3rd to go.

i think you're correct. i think she's confused. I'm not likely to be buying a crate either, but i'll follow your advice and read up on the crate threads.

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Charlie 10 weeks. She taught us that not only could dogs fart, but they are also mighty burpers!

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lol burping and farting,, yep sounds like a typical staffordshire bull terrier to me. .. i bet she snores too (not english) sorry had to edit that, my one pet hate

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