Steve

Pacers deals with this a lot. Its all not as easy as it sounds. We get people all the time who thought their family would look after them etc only to find that when it came to the crunch they wanted them to be PTS while the patient was recovering. This was the press release which explains Gary's story better than I can. Helping people and their pets in crisis When disaster strikes – whether it be an earthquake, flood, fire or a tragic and unforseen accident – looking after human survivors are priority and often times the needs associated with their pets are overlooked. But a dedicated group of volunteers are helping to make a difference for fellow pet owners and their animals through PACERS, a national charity initiated by the Master Dog Breeders and Associates (MDBA). The organisation’s aim is to ensure the pets are receiving the best of care and their owners don’t feel overwhelmed and needing to surrender, neglect or have them suffer in any way when things get tough. “We offer pet owners a safety net if things go wrong unexpectedly, including personal hardship and natural disasters (such as the Queensland and Victoria floods),” said Julie Nelson, CEO of MDBA PACERS. “A very large part of what we do is about the pet owners in the belief that if we help and support the owners, their pets will benefit the most.” The PACERS philosophy proved true with Gary Prichard of Albury, NSW who became nearly quadriplegic following a car accident in April last year and could no longer care for his beloved five-year-old dog, Banjo. Gary suffered severe spinal damage with multiple fractures to the back and neck vertebrae and artery dissection. He initially lay flat on his back for two months in a Melbourne hospital, where he learned he might not be able to get from bed to a wheelchair without assistance. Fear for Banjo’s future But Gary was most concerned about Banjo's future, fearing he would never be able to care for him again. “Banjo had experienced a bad start in life,” said Gary. “He was handed in to the Albury pound as a puppy in such a bad condition that the vet almost put him down.” At four months old, Banjo went to Albury Dog Rescue where he was adopted by Gary and became the best of buddies. After the accident, Banjo was moved from pillar to post. Gary became particularly anxious after a well-meaning friend who was looking after his affairs suggested the best thing for Banjo would be to have him euthanised. “I wasn’t going to let this happen,” said Gary. That's when a plea for help brought Chris Lythollous, a PACERS foster carer from Albury, into his and Banjo's lives. Chris’ compassion for her fellow humans and enthusiastic attitude towards the care of dogs created a situation where Banjo became the focal point of Gary's recovery, explained Julie. “When I was in hospital in Melbourne, Chris sent me photos and e-mails about Banjo,” said Gary. “When I moved back to Albury hospital, she went out of her way to regularly visit me with Banjo during the three or more months I was there.” During this time, Gary progressed from bed to wheelchair to walking frame to crutches. Towards the end of his stay in hospital, Chris and her partner Shane took Gary and Banjo to the local off-leash park so Gary could watch Banjo play. “When I was finally able to return home, Chris first brought Banjo for day visits, then sleepovers, and it was not long before he was home for good,” said Gary. When Banjo returned home, Chris then provided various bedding items and new food and water bowls for him, while Shane helped out with several jobs around the house. Gary still gets emotional when he talks about the impact Chris has had on his life in allowing his love and care for Banjo to be able to positively impact on his recovery. “She is an inspiration,” said Gary. “She is a pure ball of positive energy and a beacon of light.” MDBA PACERS Awards And if ever Chris was to be in such desperate need, there will be PACERS and a foster carer waiting in the wings to help bring her and her animals through, said Julie. “All of our foster carers are special people who put themselves out in this way to help a fellow pet owner and our gratitude for them in doing that can’t be overstated.” Last night, Chris was presented the MDBA PACERS Award for Outstanding Service of the Year at the annual MDBA Awards, held at the Jika International in Melbourne. Humbled by the award, Chris said she did “nothing out of the ordinary” and that she owed a lot of her dedication to helping Banjo and Gary to the great support she received from the PACERS team. “I would hope that someone would support anyone in the same position and help them to keep their animals,” said Chris. PACERS services PACERS provides foster carers for animals whose owners are temporarily homeless, ill or who have suffered accidents, but it also helps out with walking or cleaning to ensure the animals stay at home if that’s the best solution. After the Queensland and Victoria floods, PACERS organised crates and cages, first aid equipment and animal feeds. The organisation also provided fencing and penning – whatever that was needed quickly to contain and keep animals safe, well and with their owners, so they had one thing less to worry about while trying to cope with the tragedy. “When people all around are grieving for their friends and family, those who are grieving for pets often have no way to verbalise how they are feeling and their loss can be trivialised by many in the community,” said Julie. “PACERS provides bereavement counselling via phone and in person for those who are suffering due to the loss of their pet. We are still getting calls via counsellors for help post Victorian bushfires." Because many people were afraid to go to work and leave their animals at home on high fire danger days, PACERS set up carers who would babysit their pets on these days between work hours. “Simple things sometimes makes a huge difference and just being able to supply a penned area and food, as well as a shoulder to cry on, makes a lot of difference,” said Julie. PACERS in need of funds Julie thanked all the businesses that support PACERS through donations of services and supplies. “With the generous help of Eukanuba we have been able to help feed thousands of cats and dogs whose owners have hit hard times and provide donations of food to over 20 private canine rescue organisations,” she said. But PACERS is in need of additional ongoing funds in order to continue providing assistance to pet owners and their companion animals around Australia. “Much of the services and supplies are donated, but we also need cash flow to be able to cover vet bills and various other expenses which are inherent in what we do,” said Julie. For further information about MDBA PACERS or to donate, please contact [email protected] or 02 6927 6707. For more information For more information or media interviews, please contact: Julie Nelson CEO of MDBA Tel 02 6927 6707 Mob 0427 015 152 Email [email protected] Discover more at www.mdbapacers.org.au _______________________________ Press Release by Caroline Zambrano Freelance Pet Editor/Writer Sydney, Australia Mob: 0403 550 730 Email: [email protected] Website: www.petjournalist.com.au

Yep sure is [email protected]

I think there are also some other breeders registered with groups other than ANKC which could also be classed in ethical registered breeder groups which complicates it even more.

Actually the RSPCA is a bit more than a lobby group and they are given much higher credibility due to the various roles they play and the fact that they are given taxpayers donations and money to promote their agenda. If both sides are going to have a chance at getting the other point of view across where do they get the funding available to the RSPCA to present the opposing views? By law as a charity they are restricted in how much they can lobby so they use it under the guise of education. The industry funds it's own campaigns to promote it's point of view, unless you'd like government funding to go to an industry body in the interests of 'balance'? Would you have a problem with industry fact sheets promoting live export as hunky dory? Would they get blasted for pushing their own agenda and not providing info on both sides? What about the government's carbon tax 'education campaign'? Maybe you should write to Ms Gillard expressing your concerns about the blatant pushing of agendas under the guise of education using taxpayers money? I get that a there are problems with the RSPCA in general but in terms of this issue nothing is being forced down anyone's throat it is up to teachers to decide how to present the information to students, it's no different to an industry 'fact sheet' IMO. No thanks I dont want the government to fund industry to balance it - why treat me as if Im an idiot What about the government's carbon tax- sigh - is no where near like the RSPCA using funds obtained for the charitable work they do to fund their own agenda. If the government were putting out a flyer to defend their actions and why they have made the decisions they have re live exports thats hardly the same as the RSPCA doing so. These kids are between 9 and thirteen and if they were my kids I would want to know that they were being given a balanced factual view and encouraged to discuss it with their parents and even then I dont believe kids that age can get it all enough to write to a prime minister and ask for anything. If their target was 17 year olds as part of a structured program to make em research and decide for themselves that would be completely different.In fact my 17 year old and I have had some great conversations about it all and if he decided to write to the PM completely different. My 14 year old is a completey different issue- and by the way this isnt just about the RSPCA for me its anyone who wants to present propoganda on any subject and ask for them to take action.

The commercial dog breeders group Australian Association of Pet Breeders now have a registry system and their members are registered and so are their cross bred dogs. We need another description to describe what registered used to mean.

Actually the RSPCA is a bit more than a lobby group and they are given much higher credibility due to the various roles they play and the fact that they are given taxpayers donations and money to promote their agenda. If both sides are going to have a chance at getting the other point of view across where do they get the funding available to the RSPCA to present the opposing views? By law as a charity they are restricted in how much they can lobby so they use it under the guise of education.

A good educator will use the material as a teaching aide to instigate informed debate on the validity of the message in the leaflet; a methodology called 'community of inquiry' is a great way to do this. Additionally, no school, neither State nor Independent is free from propaganda. A prime example is the 'Australian Values' leaflet that was released to State schools nationally a number of years ago by the then Howard Government. A great deal of debate in many classrooms came from the leaflet with students being asked such questions as: "What makes these values Australian?"; "Do these so called Australian values include all Australians or just some?"; "Who is included and who in excluded in these values?"; "Do these values represent your family?" and; "Do these values represent everyone you know?" etc etc. I have no problem with my children being exposed to propaganda but only as long as they are taught the higher order thinking skills that develop such aspects like critical analysis. I want my children to think for themselves based on informed factual opinion; not ignorant biased opinion. Yep.

A registered breeder could be someone who is registered as a breeder with their local council, it could be someone who is registered with the Australian Association of Pet Dog Breeders , it could be someone who is registered with a breed's purebred dog stud registry or working registry, it could be an accredited registered breeder with their states purebred dog stud registry or it could be someone who is registered as a breeder member of the Master Dog Breeders and Associates. Fact is if you are a registered member of a group you are registered you dont need to have your dogs registered with the group. There are only 4800 registered ANKC breeders Australia wide - they are now a minority group so chances are the term registered these days carries a high risk that its registered with someone else. You also have to remember that you can be a registered ANKC breeder and still breed cross bred dogs or unregistered dogs. Telling someone in the year 2011 to only buy a puppy from a registered breeder could see them going straight to the biggest puppy farmer breeder in the country on our advice. Its time we all stood back and really looked at what a registered breeder is today and start to develop a different language to describe who we are and what we do I think. Members of the public dont have a chance of knowing this stuff - its an issue.

Thats not the same thing the kids are encouraged to write letter to outline their support or opposition - that encourages debate and research and objectivity what we are talking about inthe news release isnt the same.

Must depend on the course? I don't recall ever being sold a political agenda. Primary school was a different matter entirely. No I didnt mean the tutors were that way inclined - in fact just the opposite in my experience they encourage people to research and make up their own mind but its more likely that this type of propoganda is distributed by other students etc.

Well Ive got 8 kids 2 of whom are still at school and I have around a dozen grandkids in school in 3 states and its not common as far as Im aware. Now and then you may get a teacher who is a bit left side and pushes a bit but actually distributing animal rights propoganda isnt something that I have seen to be common. Its a hard sell once they get to uni but in my experience its un common enough to still be ticked off and complain to the school if it happens.

I know nothing of law suits and dont really have the energy to debate whether the info is or isnt right but as a parent Im really against anything like this being distributed at schools. Im all for kids getting educated and kept up on current affairs etc but when its a biased propoganda on any subject which only present one side Im not happy for my kids to be educated that way. When its handed out at school the kids feel its has more credence and viability than they do when they come across it in other places.Whether I agree with what the flyer says or not shouldnt be the issue but rather the basic principal of hammering our kids with onesided un balanced information.

http://qcl.farmonline.com.au/news/state/livestock/cattle/rspca-faces-lawsuit-threat/2235335.aspx A WESTERN Queensland cattle producer is enlisting support for legal action against the RSPCA over defamatory claims in fact sheets distributed to school children. Ann Britton of Goodwood near Boulia, says the fact sheets falsely accuse Australia’s cattle industry of cruelty and put words into the mouths of nine year olds in a misleading form letter that targets Prime Minister Julia Gillard. Mrs Britton has received support from across the country. The Federal Member for Durack, Barry Haase has urged the parents of school children to speak out against RSPCA propaganda in a ‘Teacher’s Guide to Live Exports’ which it has posted on the ‘World of Animal Welfare’ website. “Of course, these fact sheets are propaganda and do not portray the complete live export story,” Mr Haase said. Mrs Britton said she began her campaign after the RSPCA ignored her written objections. “Their site asks readers to have their say,” she says. “But when I wrote them a note about their false claims and their brainwashing, they failed to respond. “So I have taken my complaints to AgForce. I want to see our rural industries defended in court. The tactics of the RSPCA are those of a dictatorship, not the kind of balanced treatment you’d expect in a classroom.” An RSPCA spokeswoman, Lisa Chalk, defended the organisation saying that teachers go to the website knowing they will get an RSPCA animal welfare perspective. “Teachers can then decide what to do with that information,” she said. “I might add that there has been more activity to improve facilities in Indonesia in the past five weeks than what we have seen in the past 10 years and that is solely as a result of animal protection groups willing to be the watchdog for this industry.” Mrs Britton said the RSPCA was encouraging children aged between nine and thirteen to sign a form-letter. “It allows them to fill in their names and then it uses the children to say ‘please stop our animals from being treated so cruelly’,” she said. “This misleading form-letter is then addressed to the Prime Minister. Few children at that age have a fully informed opinion about the issues presented in the letter. I’d say few parents and few teachers know the whole story either. So it is just not right to sidestep the facts and put words into the mouths of children. “I challenge anyone who shares my concerns to write their own letter to the PM,” she said. The Government will be receiving these false statements. It should hear how our children are being taught lies by the RSPCA.” Mr Haase accused the RSPCA of overstepping the line.

My dogs love aloe and whilst I dont use it that often for stud dogs when its used for short periods in small amounts it helps here rather than hinders. It shouldnt be taken all the time anyway but rather for short periods in small amounts - a male dog of say 30kgs would normally have around 5mils twice a day for about a week. The amino acids in it - one of which is arginine helps heaps

Yep.

If there is a DNA test for it then you should be able to see straight away if its there and make your decisions for the future. If in fact its not around much you should be able to clear them by parentage and not need to actually test them all but if it shows you know what you have and what you need to do.

What espinay said but also - its not as simple as it all sounds. Dogs have a couple of hundred thousand genes and you cant take the decision making process out of the breeders hands because at any given time the breeder has to take it ALL into consideration not just make a decision to use one dog or another based on one score for one genetic issue. The breeder may have something else they need to be avoiding and the poor score may be the fiorst thats shown up and could be the result of many other things if its a polygenic disorder they are playing with. The only real tool for being able to take it all into account is good info easily shared and accessed to enable a breeder to profile the pedigree. This relies on many things though and its not as simple as saying the ANKC should do - what ever. The info needs to come from breeders and people who own their dogs and all sorts of things need to be recorded not just things such as scores or test results - we also need to know where itchy dogs were, where the dogs were that had immune system issues etc. and when the breeder selects a mate the more info the better the chances of making the best decision. When you start narrowing it down too far and considering saying what is the base line you have to also consider a multitude of possible variables. If you start selecting for low hipscores or good patellas and not taking a million other things into account you end up the same place as what you do when you select for any other trait or characteristic without taking the whole dog and possible outcomes for future generations into account. There is a real danger in some breeds where an emphasis has been placed so heavily on selection for only one test result and little else that over a couple of generations we may have created a bigger problem.

Steve, can you please show me where to find these figures. Thanks. They were in the first post

bumping this

Surely unless you know what he DOES have in him saying what he is causes a potential issue doesnt it? How could anyone know? So why is it necessary to guess ?

SECTION 10 Recognition of New Breeds 10.1 Requirements for the Recognition of any breed, which is recognised by a recognised Overseas Controlling Bodies (10/97) The ANKC Ltd recognises new breeds, which are recognised by the Recognised Overseas Controlling Body provided that: 10.1.1 That each individual dog to be re-registered is registered with a overseas Canine Control Body that is recognised by the ANKC Ltd and accompanied by the original registration issued by the controlling body in the country in which the animal was last registered and by an “Export Certified/Pedigree”. (10/06, 6.1.2) 10.1.2 That each individual dog to be re-registered has all ancestors shown on the Export Certified/Pedigree are fully registered. ie The Prefix or Suffix plus the dogs name and the registration number must be provided for all ancestors shown on the Export Certified/Pedigree. (10/06, 6.1.2) 10.1.3 The ANKC Ltd holds the appropriate Breed Standard. 10.1.4 The importer to provides sufficient additional breed information, such as additional text expanding on the breed standard, photographs and diagrams to allow the ANKC Ltd to prepare an appropriate Breed Standard Extension. The importer shall also provide written approval for the use of this material. (10/06, 6.1.2) 10.1.5 The Breed Standards Coordinator collates the above and checks the translation of the Standard into English where appropriate 10.1.6 The Administrator circulates the Standard and additional information to all member bodies for comment and formal adoption at the next Conference 10.1.7 Breeds recognised from the 1st July to the 31st December shall be shall be eligible for entry on to the purebred register forthwith and shall be effective from the 1st July the following year for exhibition purposes. (10/06, 6.1.2) 10.1.8 Breeds recognised from the 1st January to the 30th June shall be shall be eligible for entry on to the purebred register forthwith and shall be effective from the 1st January the following year for exhibition purposes. (10/06, 6.1.2) 10.1.9 When a new breed arrives in Australia, the breed Standards Coordinator and the Administrator be notified. [Added 16/10/97] 10.1.10 Any new breed of dog recognised by the ANKC Ltd will be known by its common usage name around the world subject to ANKC Ltd Regulation Part 6, Clause 10.2.1. (10/08) (Amended 10/09, 7.3)

mutt, mongrel, heinze, mixed breed. mon·grelplay_w2("M0386400") (mnggrl, mng-) n. 1. An animal or a plant resulting from various interbreedings, especially a dog of mixed or undetermined breed.2. A cross between different breeds, groups, or varieties, especially a mixture that is or appears to be incongruous.adj. Of mixed origin or character.

Ive had two. I had to come up with a new one when my first marriage broke up and ex kept the kennel name so when I chose the second Im not sure I was at my best. My first bitch's name was Sally and her first pup was a male which did really well in the ring - when the marriage broke up I kept him [he was 15] and ex took all of my other dogs so I named my prefix Sallson - for son of sally and started again.

No these were approached in the beginning and whilst they are great in helping with advice etc they are not able to help hands on due to their regs and insurances.

Oh come off it! You say we all know deep down there is more to dogs than being a work horse whilst saying that all there is to dogs is their value as companions. Ask the dog what its most happy doing - give it a choice and watch what it thinks will make it happiest. How totally boring for dogs bred to work to have to sit all day and act like humans.