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Yep I love my crocs - have them in lots of different colours - only have to be honest - they are the cheap Target version

Figure 8...... tigger tigger, bounce bounce

This is 6 month old Cider and was taken tonight http://www.youtube.com/watch\?v=A0QyDgERkoc The line up and focus....... I would lure her into a sit and stand next to her so she was in heel position - the moment she looked at me I would multiple feed her so several bits of food in quick succession and then step away. I would do this several times a day - so whenever she was sitting on my left it became a great place to be. I then progressed to clicking and treating and slowing the delivery of food down.

Hmm we are not up to distractions yet - unless you count the pots in the driveway for the figure 8 and the daughter who was videoing. This is 6 month old Cider who is a work in progress........ http://www.youtube.com/watch\?v=A0QyDgERkoc

Good work Jess and how easy was that to fix

All my kids get a break (except the baby) following the last agility trial for the year - so mid December through to the end of January. It is a long year and we all need a break, me included, and I find they come back firing on all cylinders when we start back again. It is a fine line having them ready for the Classic at the end of February At the moment all the kids a shooting daggers at the baby when I take her outside to train

Isn't that called distraction training?????

Cider has been trained around figure 8's rewarding every step and in a slowish pace - she doesn't take her eyes off me I trained "line Up" and "focus" separately using click and treat

Judging from the photo Bedazzled - Brookies holiday is going well LOL

Welcome Kozmee - maybe others could post photos of their favourite distraction.......

Where did you get the cheat sheet from Staff n Toller?

In a dam at Midvale near the velladrome.

Trifecta - its very interesting what you say as the dog was screaming enroute to the vet

Talking of lumping - can she sit in front - you hand her the dumbbell and her hold it until you give your release word???? Ducking for cover......

Done heaps of part turns in the kitchen just as part of our learning to 1) truely understand finding heel position and 2) enjoy it given I nearly ruined her with boredom from doing 2 years of classes. So as part of that we've done left turns right turns backwards forwards etc etc and she does them fine. We have done some on the spot work and yes she is lagging/not turning as tightly - most of it's been in the kitchen on board floors but I did some on grass this arvo and they were still ordinary. Maybe she's got used to turning badly on the boards due to footing and it's carrying to outside? Try turning your head in the direction you are turning just prior to making the turn - it indicates to the dog that you are about to change direction. I can hear you saying footwork, food, clicker, head turn ARGH - but it does work!

Thanks everybody for your kind words - Zirius is a member of DOL - so I will direct her here in a few days. I guess if we see a snake we can make an active choice to avoid it. In this case ithe dog was standing in shoulder height water and the only indication that there was a problem was that the dog wouldn't retrieve, wouldn't come and was snapping at the water.

Take it from me.....I can hear Caffy saying to me months ago ......I need to go back to using food bowls....I need to go back to using food bowls. When did I remember this - when Beans was sitting on a pass as we got to gloves, I about turned, gave her direction to glove 1, sent her and she started off towards glove 1 and then deviated to glove 2 ....I need to go back to using food bowls and not lump! BUGGER!

Yesterday a dog was brought in with a duigite bite and the cost for 1 vial of antivenom was $500 - we were using the combination brown/Tiger snake and it was $1000 a vial. Rommi N Lewis your experience just about sums up what has been happening over the last 4 days - in the end she couldn't control her body temperature and this morning her organs started shutting down so the decision was immediately made to pts. Its hard to describe the roller coaster ride we have been on over the last few days, this little girl was only 9 months of age - but had made a big impact on everybody. Its times like this that you really do find out who your friends are, these are the special people who go out of there way to be there when you need them, to send you a text message or email checking that you are OK, to offer you a bed if you need it, so to all of you - Thank you is just not enough......

Thanks for the info everybody. I am not prepared to discuss the fors or againsts of treatment or PTS. I just wanted to hear of any first hand experience, the treatment given, and if possible success stories. Yes she is on large doses of Vit C and antibiotics and given the choice - its much better to be bitten by a duigite than a tiger snake as the outcome seems much better and cheaper! Full credit to the Vet Practice who has allowed somebody to be with the dog 24/7.

Has anybody had or know of a dog who has been bitten by a tiger snake and survived? Just need to know if the dog was ventilated, if the vet did anything other than conventional treatment, and how long before the dog regained consciousness after being bitten. ;)

So maybe there are different levels of drive then????? The day we scored 200 - Scoota was focused, he was accurate but he wasn't pushing and working his little socks off - BUT he was still in drive - if the definition of drive is.....staying attentive and not being distracted and doing everything I ask in a timely manner with accuracy? We can also have days when he is just going through the motions and is looking to be distracted - I definitely know what these rounds feel like. I have to say that most people would give their eye teeth to get a round like this, but when you have had the drive you want it all the time.

I agree about a dog having drive AND being accurate Huski and Yes Seita's dog is an example as I have had the pleasure of seeing her work. Now I wonder if Drive means something different to all of us??

Not relating to a particular training program (although I do a training in drive distance package with K9 Force) just those who train their dogs in drive. Whilst it would depend on your definition of and understanding of drive, I wouldn't personally say that all training is in drive. Just as I wouldn't agree that all interested dogs are working in drive. You can see this when you go to a trial or training class - you can spot the dogs who whilst not disinterested, are going through the motions vs a dog who is working in drive. I can see this really clearly with Daisy - the difference in her now vs before we started training in drive is huge. It wasn't that she was disinterested in training before, but I never had the focus, responsiveness or reliability that I do now. Being a scent hound, her instinct to scent is huge, but when she's working in drive she doesn't even think about the smells on the ground. As an example - I might give Daisy a basic command at home like leave or sit or stay or whatever. She's not disinterested because she complies and she knows she will get a pat and some praise - but she's not responding to my command in drive, like she would do if I'd give our trigger word (ready to work?) to work in food drive. She doesn't comply with the same fast, sharp and focused response she'd give me when we are training in drive. That probably made no sense, and apologies for taking the thread further OT :D Thanks for the explanation Huski Now I will throw something at you - yes we all want out dogs working in drive BUT when my dog isn't pushing he is in a much better heel position, is neater in all his exercises, his presents are spot on and always gets a higher score and yet to me I hate it I think Bedazzled can relate...... So which would everybody rather - a dog that is zupped up to the max and is super fun to work, but who you know you are going to get a lower score with, or the accurate less zupped up one?????

Macka tell us more about Archer......at this age they are like sponges so keep teaching him things

HMm I don't think I would be releasing a baby/inexperienced dog to a distractor and definitely not a novice toller as they have a habit of self releasing I want them to learn that all good/fun things come from me.