Greytmate

It is because of the differing council laws that we now have some overriding state laws, and we also have model laws. But parochialism and politics will usually win out over common sense. There are areas in QLD where you can safely buy property and know you can have extra dogs. You can automatically have four dogs if you have half an acre in Ipswich. You can have as many dogs as you put on your permit if you live in Churchable. But don't expect to be allowed to keep a lot of dogs around the north side of Brisbane, suburban areas or the Sunshine or Gold Coast. Where land is expensive, many people don't want to live anywhere near dog breeders. The council generally won't grant kennel licences. This amalgamation has led to new licences being given, that doesn't mean that council wants any dog breeding in its city.

Two chihuahuas will make more noise than two wolfhounds. Why should the council discriminate on dog size?

I have an Ozita from Bunnings. I use it on the dogs and for my own pedicures too. I still clip their nails, but use the tool to round off the edges. I can't say the dogs love it, but I never put any effort into training them with it. They tolerate it.

Stonebridge is from around there.

She looks like she is a sighthound cross - a 'lurcher' or a 'kangaroo dog'. Pretty far-fetched to guess that the sighthound bit would be anything other than a give-away greyhound. Greyhounds come in her colour as well as nearly every other colour combination that exists in dogs. And she's a big girl. She is very cute.

Did you not read all my posts in this thread? Or do you just choose to ignore what I have said, dismiss it as rubbish, and keep harping on about how you feel? This isn't an opinion, it is science. Bones need a certain amount of stress while they are growing to develop to their full strength and potential. If that irritates you, that is your own problem, and not the fault of dog breeders. I've also read research from the U.S about growth plates maturation. not taking varying breeds into account, but only the one's I own, you shouldn't work a kelpie or a border hard in the first 18 months of their life. Recommended are collared walks in parks and on beaches. You know, the kind of things you can offer from an apartment. So my argument is only strengthened by your need to 'harp on'. well done, and thank you To protect a pup's growth plates, the recommendation is that pups should get free exercise rather than being walked on lead. This is exactly why large breed pups should be raised in homes with yards, and not be raised in apartments. The dogs need to exercise and rest at their own natural intervals, and not be put in a sitauition where there joints get pounded by the repetitive nature of lead walking on a lead alongside a person. Good on you for reading some research from the US, too bad you don't really understand what you have read. Lead walking a giant breed pup instead of letting it free run for exercise is a sure way of it developing arthritis as an adult.

Did you not read all my posts in this thread? Or do you just choose to ignore what I have said, dismiss it as rubbish, and keep harping on about how you feel? This isn't an opinion, it is science. Bones need a certain amount of stress while they are growing to develop to their full strength and potential. If that irritates you, that is your own problem, and not the fault of dog breeders.

Yes. But that allelle is written as BB, Bb, or bb. B for black, and b for the liver (which is a pigment modifier, not depigmentation). The more we learn about genetics, the more that the breed standards need to catch up with their terminology.

Crazy. Based on yard size? Breeders know no more about me and my ability to raise a dog than what my butcher does. That's why breeders ask questions of potential puppy buyers. Wouldnt you rather a breeder care where one of their pups end up? Again. Crazy. No one is saying breeders shouldn't care about their dogs and where they go. You keep avoiding the real question. Where does yard size correlate to being a negligent dog owner? It isn't so much negligent, just not ideal. For pup's bones to grow well and strong, they do need a certain amount of low-impact stress. This can happen when pup can move around freely on a soft grass surface several times a day. It can't happen in confined spaces with large breeds. A breeder that knowingly places a dog in a situation where its needs won't be met is negilgent. The dog buyer is just ignorant, rather than negligent.

The kind of abode someone inhabits reflects little about the level of commitment to meet the dogs needs for exercise, lova and care. A backyard does bugger all to guarantee anything. I live in an apartment and researched a breed suitable for living. many different breeds came up as possibilities but a lot of it had to do with me and my temperament as much as the dog's. I went with a papillon, but would have got it even if in a house. Stories of greyhounds, danes, staffies and german shepherds living in apartments came up in my research: examples of dogs that were happy in apartment living because the owners worked it out to maintain the dog's health. Adult greyhounds in the main. I would never deny my greys, especially the youngsters, the chance to free exercise, they do so, most days, twice a day. And it is against the law in Victoria to let them off lead in public places which include dog parks. I reckon greyhounds might be an exception to most dogs. There's a good reason why they aren't high on the list of most hopeful dog owners, and that is the space they need to run. I get the feeling most of us are talking about breeders of prolific breeds like lab, borders, poodles etc who give a blanket 'no' based on yard/ house size. Adult greyhounds do not need space to run every day, only puppies do. A pointer pup wuld have very similar requiremenst to a greyhound pup. But this topic isn't about getting an adult dog (as most pet greyhound owners do), it's specifically about puppy raising, and it refers to a thread about pointers. I have once. The blank stare, followed by silence is a real conversation killer. since a forum board is fairly anonymous, why not ask it here? The bottom line is many people live in tight spaces with little yards and make it work. And many people have big back yards and spaces and neglect their dog. Every individual case should be based on its own merits. A dog lives for 15 years, and the chances of dog owner's circumstances remaining stable and as they are the day they buy the dog, is pretty slim. imo. The dog is only developing for 18 months, so it is this time that a knowledgeable breeder would be most concerned about where the pup would be raised. Any adult dog can be kept in a confined space and given regular exercise and stimulation to have its needs met. But as a few knowledgable breeders have mentioned, pups need casual off-lead exercise, at their own pace and timing, several times a day, on a soft surface. If people choose to live in an apartment, rather than live in a place with a yard, or if they keep their pup confined too much, they are inhibiting their pup's potential. Seems to me that in researching different breeds, many people neglect to research what is best for a pup's skeletal and muscular system to develop. I guess not everyone has their pup's physical development as their top priority, and choose to live in an apartment regardless. That doesn't mean breeders need to lower their standards of how they want their pups to be raised. There is no shortage of breeders with low standards, who don't care how a pup is rasied, or who do not understand what growing dogs need. I would like to think that the breeders that post here are better educated and more caring than that.

Let's hope they get a breed that is more suitable to be raised with limited exercise space, or an adult dog, because an apartment is not a fabulous place to raise a large breed pup like a pointer. The dog may be happy enough, but it will always be at a physical disadvantage compared with a dog that has been raised correctly with care given to providing it with a suitable environment to develop and grow to its full potential.

Yes, but puppies need informal physical exercise on soft surfaces to build strong bones and to protect their joints. A good sized fenced yard with a big lawn is a good place to allow pups to play. It is very hard to provide this sort of exercise to a pup that would have to stay on lead, unless you have a very large carpeted area or daily access to a yard. there was a park across the road for the puppy to play in i come from glasgow, we had dogs all the time in apartments (well they were called tenements but they were like apartments as there was no garden attached) Maybe, but personally I wouldn't want to raise a large breed pup unless I had a large yard for it to spend a fair amount of time in, and can understand why a breeder might want that too. I also wouldn't want a young pup exposed to a public parks where there may be parvo virus in the soil, or nasty dogs around. Not saying it can't be done, just saying I wouldn't do it to a large breed pup. I would want the dog to develop as strongly as possible. Once the pup is fully grown, the type of exercise it gets is not quite as important. i wouldn't either GM but i think it can be successfully done if the owners are committed I would sell them a pup if they were committed enough to move to a dwelling where the pup can have free access to a large soft surface for running on, several times a day. But I wouldn't sell a large breed puppy to anyone who was committed to apartment living instead. I had a look at the post in the breeder's forum. There is no way I would sell a pointer pup to those people. They have not indicated that they will be able to provide the dog with the right type of exercise, rather they just sound desperate for a dog. There is nothing in their correspondance that shows they understand what a large breed puppy needs, or how it might differ in its needs from the dog they already have.

Yes, but puppies need informal physical exercise on soft surfaces to build strong bones and to protect their joints. A good sized fenced yard with a big lawn is a good place to allow pups to play. It is very hard to provide this sort of exercise to a pup that would have to stay on lead, unless you have a very large carpeted area or daily access to a yard. there was a park across the road for the puppy to play in i come from glasgow, we had dogs all the time in apartments (well they were called tenements but they were like apartments as there was no garden attached) Maybe, but personally I wouldn't want to raise a large breed pup unless I had a large yard for it to spend a fair amount of time in, and can understand why a breeder might want that too. I also wouldn't want a young pup exposed to a public parks where there may be parvo virus in the soil, or nasty dogs around. Not saying it can't be done, just saying I wouldn't do it to a large breed pup. I would want the dog to develop as strongly as possible. Once the pup is fully grown, the type of exercise it gets is not quite as important.

Yes, but puppies need informal physical exercise on soft surfaces to build strong bones and to protect their joints. A good sized fenced yard with a big lawn is a good place to allow pups to play. It is very hard to provide this sort of exercise to a pup that would have to stay on lead, unless you have a very large carpeted area or daily access to a yard.

I wouldn't raise a large breed in an apartment, as I belive it would hinder its developemnt compared to raising it in an area where it can free run at any time. However once it is fully grown, just about any breed could live in an apartment, with the right owner. But high energy breeds are going to be a little harder to keep than low energy breeds. It takes much more commitment to keep a dog in an apartment than it does in a house with a yard, because you have to take it out on lead a lot more often. you need to plan ahead to ensure the dog gets outside at the right times. I would encourage people to think carefully before having a dog in an apartment.

Ignore your stupid selfish neighbour.

Our dogs stand and wait while we lift up their front feet and put them in the car, and then pick up their back half and push the rest of them in.

BTW, that photo of four dogs shows a perfect punnet square of what 'is likely to happen' when you bred two dogs of perfect phenotype, but who are each carrying one undesirable liver gene and one undesirable satin gene.

She could be shown, she probably wouldn't be disqualified (unless classed as Isabella?) , but sadly she does not meet standard. The standard calls for Black pigmentation of the mucous membranes, eyelids and the central and toe pads. The standard also calls for black lips, and black eye rims. Instead of being black, she is liver, so her lips and rims are are brown, as well as her nose. Depigmentation is a different thing, and it has health concerns that don't apply to liver pigment. Depigmentation certainly should be disqualified in this breed, given what this breed is supposed to be able to do. Nose: Completely depigmented. Eyes: Moderate or bilateral depigmentation of the eyelids. Depigmented areas look light pink, but are actually translucent, you can see the blood underneath, the skin is transparent. Colour genetics is fascinating. Rather than tell you here how "Rosa" nosed Maremmas sometimes happen, you could have a look at this site. It is a very easy way to keep up to date with colour genetics, as more is being discovered all the time. (so exciting) . Nasa Rosa maremmas are rose nosed, not pink nosed. But to make sense of this, you need to look at it as being a variation of the B series of genes, which is generally known as liver. I can see the difference between the coats too. The correct coat would feel dry and slightly coarse to touch. This coat is dirt repelling, wash'n'wear, and is a bit spitz like. The other coat is softer, more like a GR coat, and smoother or oilier in texture, which is not dirt repelling.

It's a bit easier to tell with a male if they've been desexed Our bitches were tattood, our dog was not. An entire dog with retained testicles can look and feel exactly like a desexed dog, so the tattoo should really be used on males too. The tattoo is compulsory in QLD now.

The nose is definitely depigmented. The angle of the photo keeps the light from illuminating his most distingusihing feature. The colour (lack of colour) is clearer here. That looks like liver pigment, not no pigment. No pigment appears as a light pink like this dog.

Greyhounds can be really great with kids, and are very gentle, but they prefer to spend most of the time sleeping and just being there with the family, rather than being actively played with. They have very little stamina, and are quite likely to be lazier than a ten year old boxer. Whippets can handle a bit more interaction and playtime. They also tend to be gentle on little kids. What sort of things do the kids like doing with the boxer and would like to be doing with the new dog? Different breeds enjoy different sorts of activities with kids, and that will depend on the kids.

What is 'the Breed' exactly?

if you read the can it is 10-11% per 100g - the can is 700g so that equates to 70 - 77% for the can - well that's the way I read it. And what is on the label is in the can. Sophie Our old dog gets Nature's Gift, she was losing too much weight on other food. I used to work for Nature's Gift, and saw what went on in the factory. I think their product is excellent. Basically they mince up whole bits of chicken, with rice and vegetables, and it's cooked in the can. It is a very natural product. The chicken and cereal would contain as much nutrition as human grade ingredients, the veges are a little bit bigger and tougher than the ones we would eat at home. Not quite as nutritious as raw, but nutritious enough for most dogs. Like human food, dog food varies, depending on what they put in the can. Not all cans contain made ingredients.

Amrex Behaviour I can recommend him.