Souff

Since when is a hairdressing salon an appropriate place for a dog to eat? It's not. But at the end of the day, the dog was in the salon, it was eating, and the parent still allowed his child to wander around and approach the dog. Does the dog being in the salon mean the parent doesn't have to remain responsible for his child, because the dog shouldn't have been there in the first place? Thank you. The dog should not have been eating in a hairdressing salon. The dog should not have been in the hairdressing salon. If you have ever seen how fast dogs can attack, and if the parent also had this knowledge (which I doubt) then you would both KNOW that this toddler was in some danger. The danger was not recognised. And is not recognised by too many dog owners, and parents, and their naivity is a horrible mistake. Souff

I can walk past a salon in the suburbs any day of the week and see small children in their with parents, and they are not all in the barbers chairs. It may not be appropriate in your view, but in some places it is the norm. Souff

Since when is a hairdressing salon an appropriate place for a dog to eat?

Mita, this is a question I ask myself all the time. But whilever it is easy to give a dog the name of "dangerous dog" and give the offending dog a needle to get rid of the immediate problem, I dont see governments throwing money at serious study or education programs. And it is really not going to happen if we wait for the dog world to educate people against dogs, because that is how many in the dog world will see it. The emotion of loving animals seems to undermine the thinking of even the most logical of parents at times. I never cease to be amazed at the risks that some intelligent, well educated people take with small children and dogs. Souff

Look, I cant even call either of them idiots. They are just very typical of a lot of contemporary dog owners and parents. There are a whole bunch of people out there who are dog owners and they really do not think that the worst can happen. They don't see their dog as an animal and they dont factor in that the dog can react like an animal. How their dogs behaves with them, their devoted owner, is how they think the dog will always behave. They truly do. Their dog can go to work with them every day, without incident. Or so they think. They either dont know, or dont want to know, that a dog does NOT think and does not consistently behave like a human. There are a whole bunch of parents out there who see their children interact well with one dog and think that every other dog is OK. As parents, they are naive and too trusting, but this does not make them idiots. Every day we see the results of people NOT thinking of their dog as an animal, and very often the dog is placed in a situation that is NOT APPROPRIATE for an animal. Every day there are incidents and often the dog is a "trusted" pet. But often in reality, the dog was placed in a situation without appropriate limits, or had been taught wrong behaviours, and sadly an attack was waiting to happen. When people get back to respecting their dog as an ANIMAL, and not just as their adored pet, then some commonsense might come back into the picture and dogs like this one WONT be getting PTS simply because they reacted in an instinctive manner when they were in an inappropriate place. Souff

Do you know that this little girl was a runner? One of mine was a runner and she would have been strapped into her stroller if I had to have her with me. Yes, there was a dog there, and so the parent should have taken preventative measures, it could be said. But, my point is, the bloody dog should not have been there in the first place. It was not a dog grooming salon. There is a place for dogs and a hairdressing salon is not an appropriate place. If there was not a dog there, this incident wouldn't have happened. No way would I have taken my kids to a salon where there was a dog because I know the risks when kids meet dogs. Souff

I am sorry, but dog attacks can happen with LIGHTNING SPEED (it can be like a bomb going off) A parent would need to be bloody superhuman to get out of the barbers chair and get to the child and dog before it happened. Kids are very quick. Dogs are very quick. I am sorry for the dog, and for the owner, but the dog should NOT have been in the hairdressing salon imo I hope this little girl is not permanently turned off dogs by this incident. Souff

You might hate dogs in places like that (I don't necessarily agree with it either) BUT why did the parent think it was okay to leave the child to run around unsupervised? It's not the job of the staff to watch children and a person sitting in a salon chair can't really do much. Owner of shop is at fault Parent of child is at fault They are both morons. And who suffers the consequences of their idiocy? the poor dog and the poor child. Ashanali, I disagree that the parent is at fault. The very last thing I would expect to see in a hairdressing salon, which services all sorts and sizes of the public, would be a dog. Children go with parents to barbers and hairdressers all over Australia every day of the week. A hairdressing salon is an appropriate place for a child to be and I never tied any of mine up while I was in the chair. They were told to stay in the salon and not go outside. They were free to do whatever in the salon, except be a nuisance to other people (or to me). Most parents in a barbers chair would not have been able to quickly intervene in this situation and any warning growls were probably drowned out by hairdryers. A hairdressing salon is not an appropriate place for a dog to be and is fraught with risks. Those risks will now almost definitely take this dogs life. Souff

Just awful

ermmm.... are they not a protected species in Tasmania? The poster lives in Queensland .... a Kiwi living in Qld perhaps?

Send it to meeee pleese!! I want that owl and all it's relatives too. Janba - isn't it a pain!! my dog hurls himself at the window, because the power cable attaches to the house above that window and the possums use it as an aerial footway. Will put you on the list!

I could perhaps ask one of the local owls if he would like to move to your neighbourhood for a few nights. I shone the torch into a tall tree recently because of some strange noises I heard. What I saw was staggering - a large owl had decided he was going to have possum on the menu that night! Goodnight possum! Souff

Oakway I think its time that breeders starting getting a message to that section of the general public who want to buy a puppy in the future. "Start saving for it NOW!" We see people clamouring for more and more laws with regard to animal breeding. Lots of young impressionable students see this is as a wonderful thing. Well, the upshot of all those extra laws is that there will be fewer and fewer people wanting to breed good dogs for those same students when they want to buy a puppy for their children in a few years time. For most Australians "Europe" is where you save to go for a holiday, or it is where some of your ancestors came from. The concept of Europe's laws and fanatical attitudes being responsible for them having to pay thousands of dollars for a puppy .....is just way too ...... hellllooooo Souff, what the hell are you talking about now? Dont expect people to understand later. Too late then. "Oh, you cant find a breeder in Queensland anymore?" Oh, really? And you cant find one in Victoria either? How odd. Nobody knows why the breeders of that particular breed cant be found anymore!!!! And they bred such lovely dogs!!!! At least if people are publicly warned now, "Yes, some breeders will stick around and continue to breed under a barrage of new laws and restrictions, but you can expect to pay a lot more for puppies in the future" they cant say they weren't warned. But they will probably blame the increased prices on global warming anyway ........ Souff

In the future you are going to find many breeds of puppy are expensive. Not just British Bulldog puppies. This is the future that puppy buyers now face. In Europe today, breeds such as British Bulldogs have had bans slapped on them, because fanatics have decreed that the features of these breeds must disappear. Features that have been around a very long time. Fanatics are declaring that all BBs must have a "pump handle tail". Few people today would know what a pump handle tail looks like on a British Bulldog! Australia does what Europe does, like it or not. There are not a lot of BB breeders around. So, there are a not a lot of BB puppies around. Do you know what happens when lovely things become "hard to get"? The price goes UP. We are looking at a future where syndicates and trust funds will be needed to keep breeds such as the British Bulldog around for future generations to enjoy. They wont be a puppy that you will be able to buy on the open market. They will be a collectors item and will only be able to be purchased by wealthy people who have an interest in breeding. This is the future for many breeds of dog. $3000 for a British Bulldog puppy? It is now an investment, it is no longer just a pet. Souff edited cos the brain went out to lunch ;)

What did she think she would have to pay?

Well ... this is the list from the canine crew in response to this question about being given the choice: The Bird. The Chooks. Next door's cat. That pet rabbit that comes to stay sometimes. Vintage Cheese (cut into squares please) (soft cheeses stick to the teeth a bit much apparently) Schmackos - any variety Dental Sticks Pigs ears The small steaks that you have that nice sauce with. BBQ chicken. Sausages (cooked please) Shortbreads, and any other sweet biscuits that humans like. Crackers and pretzels. Toast (buttered) Some of your pasta dishes, but not with carrot in them please. That nice red mince that you get from the local butcher, it tastes way better than the mince from the petshop. So, there you have it folks. I did give them the choice. ;) Souff

Yes, I was taught that a dog is an omnivore. And the other part of the teaching was that omnivores eat both meat and vegies. However, one here thinks she is a carnivore and spits out anything that looks like vegetable matter. Souff

Souff has vegie dogs sometimes. They eat grass. Then they :D

I have only one question for this person: Would she feed cows MEAT?

Yes it does make sense JS. It is often not until people are faced with the appalling facts that the message really does hit home. Some DOLers think I am nuts when I say that ALL breeders should have a licence to breed, but I have believed for quite a while now that is what it has come to. If we want to breed dogs of any kind, then we all have to show that we are responsible, be licensed and be subjected to inspections I guess. This is not easy for Souff to swallow because I treasure independence, but if that is what it takes to get people to do the right thing when breeding, then so be it. Too many people have let the animals down badly, and ripped off puppy buyers with their lies, and these people often stay hidden for a long time .... and they do an awful lot of damage to the dog world while they stay below the radar. The dogs suffer, and some of the dogs that have been in those terrible places carry the scars for life. Nobody has the right to do that to an animal. Souff

All dogs need to be trained and taught some good manners. However, what we really need is for people to understand that dogs think differently to humans, and try to see the situations through a dogs eyes. It also helps if you know something about the breed, and also about the background of the dog. All dogs will behave differently to others, and size is just one small thing in a myriad of other things to consider. If you find somebody's dog annoying, stay away from them. Why make your life, and your dog's life, a misery because another owner is a goose? Souff

Megan, You might be surprised to learn that a lot of good breeders don't have a formal "return policy" as such. However, those same breeders do like you to contact them should anything go wrong, so you can talk about it, get second opinions, and look at different approaches to the problem. Many of those same breeders have in the past offered to take the pup back and give a replacement pup from the next litter. The interesting thing is that often the puppy owner does not want to give the puppy back. I can understand that too. In many ways this is much the same when parents find there is a health problem with their baby. They cant give it back. Nature is a bummer sometimes and gives out health problems where they are not wanted. So, we have to find ways to best deal with the problem when it happens. With good planning and good luck, hopefully the problems wont occur in the first place, but the "return policy"? It really doesn't work that well when you are dealing with nature and the emotions of humans. Souff

"Premier's Export Award" ? Oh dear Anna ......

It looks like they have just removed the text from the homepage Try this link http://krpuppies.com.au/aboiut%20us.html aaaah oodles, and ....... "For your Puppy Love" it says ........................ I have seen enough :D

That's what I thought. Sure some of those dogs looked in good nick but they only showed about 10 of the allegedly 230 living at the property. 230 labs ....... ewwwwwwww, imagine doing poo patrol there! You would need a truck! Souff