~Anne~

Why did you email? I think perhaps a call would have been a better way to manage it given how the written word can be misconstrued. You’ve seen my posts over many years. Despite some opinions, I’m not a rude or nasty person but I understand my writing style can often be aggressive and negative. At work, because I am often perceived as aggressive or pushy when I write, I phone people. I’ve learnt, and I’m still learning, that people read responses in their own voice and that voice can be wrong.

https://www.crookwellvet.com.au/AnimalCare/Dogs/1080poisoning.aspx [quote]…although symptoms can take more than 6 hours to manifest. Initial symptoms include vomiting, anxiety and shaking. These quickly develop into frenzied behaviour with running and screaming fits, uncontrolled paddling and seizures, followed by total collapse and death from lack of oxygen to the brain. Rigor mortis sets in quickly.[/quote]

The activity after a seizure is called post-ictal. We had a pug who ran manic after his seizures. If he didn’t normally experience this with his seizures, and he subsequently died from his seizure, I’d be more inclined to think of poisoning or a bite. It could have been 1080 or a snake.

Great advice as you always give.

Hello! Welcome back.

Hmm, I tested ChatGPT and it doesn’t seem to think so. “It's possible that this text was written by a human, as it exhibits a conversational and excited tone. However, I can't confirm its authorship without more context. The discussion about Sheepoodles and the curiosity about their appearance, temperament, and traits shows genuine interest in learning about new dog breeds.”

Creative? What drugs are you on. Cross bred poodles are always named with oodle in the last half of the name. Nothing creative about it. I'm wondering if you have a vested interest in ‘hearing more about them’ because your post sounds as sincere as me when I’m telling my boss I don’t mind at all staying back another hour to wait on something he should be waiting back for!

Good luck with the new pup. In case you’re not already aware, in NSW you also have to register your dog with your local council. This is separate to the microchip, and must be done by the time the dog reaches 6 months of age unless you have an exemption. So you’ll have 3 things to do when it comes to the offical paperwork: - ensure you receive the microchip transfer details at point of sale - register your dog with the local council before it reaches 6 months of age - receive your pedigree papers from the breeder

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We will have to agree to disagree. A The legal advice I’ve received over the years have indicated contracts do not stand up in court, especially when unreasonable. In addition, you can’t enforce something which is breaking a law. If in NSW any breeder who does not reassign the microchip is breaking the law. This is an offence which is legislated in parliament. It’s not a guideline, but law. edited to also add - the breeder in this scenario obviously doesn’t think their contract stands up either otherwise they wouldn’t be threatening to withhold legal paperwork.

I agree in part with this. I don’t think they have the right however if they’re stating the conditions up front, anyone who purchases from them with the intent to ignore the conditions is being highly deceitful and unethical. I also understand your thoughts on the breeding aspect. It’s one of the biggest reasons (I personally believe) for the demise of the pedigree dog.

Are they normal requirements? Well, they’re not abnormal put it that way. You either accept the requirements of you look elsewhere. However, in having said that, legally contracts like this have no solid standing as dogs are still goods and chattel. You can not tell someone who purchases an item what they can do with it once purchased. It’s as simple as that. In NSW, it is law that the microchip papers are updated with the new owner’s name. So the breeder is breaking the law if they withhold these papers if they’re NSW based. I have no idea about other states but in NSW, even if the breeder doesn’t sign over the chip papers, you’re still safe as long as you have a receipt or other proof of ownership. Microchip papers do not indicate ownership on their own despite the wide held incorrect belief that they do. I have no idea about the pedigree papers but according to the advice above, these must also be signed over. So ultimately my advice is - don’t buy this dog if it bothers you to work with the breeder on conditions they’re staying upfront. If you’re ok with it, continue with the purchase and enjoy your new little pup.

Pug (multiple) Labrador German shep ( or in the day we called them Alsatians) Weimeraner (multiple) Loads of cross breeds They all had pluses and minuses. I no longer have a dog. I may in the future and it would likely be something like a mini schnauzer or poodle. Something small, not huge on shedding and not smelly. I loved all my pugs but they’re smelly and the shedding did my head in.

Dogs are dogs. There’s good and bad in all types and breeds. The biggest issue with not knowing the genetic history of the dog is not with health, as pointed out above. All dogs come with health concerns and lifestyle is also a major contributing factor. Its temperament that isn’t always guaranteed with an unknown. You might, for example, buy a pug from a rescue and it could look like a pug but it could have Jack Russell in there and so it might be higher energy, and smart. It might be quicker to think and a tad fussier with food. Meanwhile you’re expecting a snuffling, laid back and almost lazy dog who is a canine vacuum.

OMG, I’m so sorry. I can hear the shock and pain in your writing. I now understand what the OT post meant. Run free Opal. Cyber hugs to you, Rebanne. Thinking of you.

Yep, the risk of a bleed is increased greatly. It’s really only done in emergencies. Better off keeping her safe and waiting until she’s done.

Exactly. Interesting that asal could see my post… dual log in perhaps?

Impossible to tell from the pic. The markings could be Aussie Shep or they could be even cattle dog related. A few more pics would help. That blue merle type coat is in a number of breeds including the daschund, and they also come in a long haired variety.

Thanks. That sounds like it could be it. The ones I’ve seen can barely walk, let alone make their way to the feed bowl to try and eat. It seems it’s encouraged to film them trying to do these basic things. I don’t get it. And some families seem of have multiple like this.

Yes, I like the name cruelty porn. It is! The cats don’t appear to have hydrocephalus. It’s looks like a form of spasticity in animals.

No, they weren’t called retro pugs and it wasn’t a marketing gimic. The name was German and it was a genuine attempt to alleviate the negative physical attributes of the breed while maintaining low prey drive and the affable temperament.

Breeders breed specifically for deep folds on the face. It stands to reason this may show all over the body. It shows easily on the face because of the flattened features.

It could be a variation, or there could be something else in there. I’ve seen a lot of pugs over the years with excess skin folds on their face and down the neck and top of shoulders. Hair and skin folds often coincide too. One of my pugs had a huge mane, like a lion, around his neck.

Each to their own but glorifying deformities is problematic. On TikTok I keep seeing videos of cats with some kind of neurological disorder which prevents them from walking in a straight line. I’m not sure what it is and I’ve never investigated. I just feel the cat would be better of euthanised. There seems to be a lot of them and maybe it doesn’t show until later in life and that’s why they’re kept?? I also see a lot of videos of kittens and puppies which have major irreversible deformities but the ‘rescuer’ is looked at as a god because they’ve kept it alive in order to find some other equally stupid person to care for it for life. Then we have our purposely bred deformed breeds including the Basset, Bulldog, Daschund and others. Yes, the Pug too. Back in the day, when this forum was in its heyday, I was in a long term battle with many members on the issues in the pug. I recall once putting up a link of a German breeder with an established program of many generations of a longer nosed, slightly taller dog and I was crucified and put into the same category as dog abusers and profit focussed bybs. ALL Pugs, regardless of how ‘well’ bred, have respiratory deformities and issues just by the very nature of the brachycephalic features. No one can argue that - but they did and they still do.

That’s a hard one. There are so many variables. How is your cat with dogs, normally? If her instinct is to run, that will make it harder, and most cats will run. The dogs prey drive is also a consideration and being a pup, that will be harder to determine. Are the parents of the pup cat/dog chasers? Their temperament will largely predict the pup’s. Is your cat an inside only cat? Will the dog be inside too? If you choose to get the dog, you need to ensure the cat has a safety zone in the house. Somewhere the dog is not allowed to go. A place where your cat, who has reigned over her castle by herself for 6 years, can feel safe and relaxed in and not worried about the dog in anyway. You should also place serious consideration into what you will do if it doesn’t work out? Will the people you’re getting the puppy from take it back? Will someone else be able to take the dog? Ultimately the introduction between the two will be vital. I’d try to speak to an expert on it, if you can, to ensure you manage the first few months the way you will need to, to ensure success.