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A corgi x german shep! Had the shortest stumpiest corgi legs and tiny head, the colouring of the german shep and the body the size of the germ shep. Mum was a pure germ shep and dad was a pure corgi...... (so I was told)....... an easter holiday that had BIG repercussions!

We've had both Boof and Lilly done now, Boof is our quiet gentle giant, Lilly is our crazy, over the top, hyperactive nutter - polar opposites. Boof was done first, he came home and didn't want to move, sooked atrosciously, we carried him into his bed and he moaned and whinged and carried on (a real male lol). Lilly came over to him and lay down with him and he instantly stopped sooking. He needed to go to the loo later that arve, and I had to hold him up, poor fella. But that was the end of it. He didn't eat that night, they slept in our room that night, and the next 48 hours he wasn't interested in moving, he just lay around and then on the third morning home we started VERY SHORT controlled walks with him. Slowly built up to a few a day and then slowly made them longer over the week. After a week we went back for a check up and all was good so we went back to normal and he was fine. Stitches out on day 10, healed perfectly. Thankfully he showed NO interest in licking and didn't require the elizabethan collar at all. Lilly was next, a couple of months later. She happily walked out of the vets that afternoon the whole 30m to the car. Once home she was out to it for the night, we gave her the pain killers the vet gave us, she spent the night in our room and no meal, wasn't inerested either. The next moring, oh we were full of beens, we wanted to run, play n carry on like nothing had happened. Out came the pain killer/sedatives (can't remember name but the vet told us that the pain killer would make her sleepy, bit like mersindol or something we humans take I guess) and she spent the day rather dopey, LOL. Not at all interested in the wound (thank god). Day two wanted to carry on as well, so out came the sedatives. Day 3 we went to the vet for an inspection to see if we could start short walks and they gave us the ok, so we were doing a number of VERY SHORT controlled walks with her as well to dispel the energy. After 10 days again stitches out and ALL GOOD. With both of them, the mental training and chews (buffalo pizzles were great as they took so long to chew) weren't enough to rid the energy completely which is why we had to go with the walk method. Obviously we checked with the vet that the wound was up to it first. Neither of ours bothered with the licking thing at all and were collar free. My first dog though was the opposite, she was hell bent on tearing hers apart. Good luck I'm sure you'll be fine. Oh and we weren't allowed to feed or water them after 10pm (our vet doesnt start routine surgeries until after 10am). They asked us to walk them the morning of surgery to try and help empty bowels. Worked for Lilly but not Boof, he had a yucky bum after his, LOL

well said! I pass NO judgement on the situation at all, as I trust NO news report to get it correct and have no idea of the circumstances surrounding the attack. It's horrible a lady died obviously and I am saddened for her and her family and the man that witnessed.

Thanks Mackay is perfect, however I can't see Kim on the website. Only Sharon, Julana and Colleen? Hi Sherel, I have finally just got around to phoning Animal Obsession, the lady I spoke to (who was not Kim, must have been a worked) had no idea what I was talking about. She is going to check with Kim and get her to call me back, but I was just wondering if arrangements have changed? Am I barking up the wrong tree or is she still the distributor in Mackay? Regards, Aleesha She got back to me Sherel, yes they have HEAPS in stock ...... however I ran out of time in Mackay this arve, will have to try again for another day.

My two both seem to be the same, although my boy is worse than my girl. They eat mainly raw, with a little kibble in treat balls etc which is EP Holistic Select. While I was away at new year and they were staying with grandma (my mum lol) she bought some more kibble (optimum) and they had little bumps all over them, not itchy though. After 2 days of no kibble (not even EP) the spots were disappearing. I gave them a trial of the VAN mix and the next day they had masses of lumps all over them and pustule like bumps that resembled pimples. No more kibble for a few days and they have started going away again. When they only get the EP in very minimal amounts, they don't have these bumps and they haven't had the pustule things before having the VAN. The only time they get kibble with a feed is when they have sardines. I mix a little though so they eat slower. So I am going to stick with what works and not 'feed' kibble, just use it in minority amounts.

Thanks Mackay is perfect, however I can't see Kim on the website. Only Sharon, Julana and Colleen? Hi Sherel, I have finally just got around to phoning Animal Obsession, the lady I spoke to (who was not Kim, must have been a worked) had no idea what I was talking about. She is going to check with Kim and get her to call me back, but I was just wondering if arrangements have changed? Am I barking up the wrong tree or is she still the distributor in Mackay? Regards, Aleesha

I get in the back and 9/10 they will both jump in happily to the combo van if they didn't readily jump in, it's only about knee height. On the other hand the ute is higher and I drop the tailgate and have to muscle up and pick them up, sometimes it's pretty funny, 30kg of amstaff and 48kg of me, it would be an interesting site. Lilly ain't so bad she's only 20kg atm.... that will change though. Haven't bothered with other options as I can manage like this just fine.

Glad it's working, I think our truck is going to get the eucalyptus oil treatment, ours have chewed wiring on it 3 times now. When they have been walked, trained, fed a RMB, then played with and left a buffalo pizzle to chew on leaving, there is NO reason for them to chew. Especially when they have a variety of chew toys, a treat ball and a kong to keep them busy on top of the sand pit stoked with treats. We have no idea so if eucalyptus worked for you we will give it a go.

We've had friends stay there when traveling for speedway, was cheap but wouldn't do it again.

I live in a small regional town with one trainer and that is the next available time slot unfortunately. I know the feeling, we have the same problem with our two.... obedience school took their last class mid november and no more new members until Feb next year. Getting my partners roster to line up so we could both go with both dogs meant we missed out. I have approached a lady I know breads/shows/trains and quite well and have asked her for some help, she won't be ready til after xmas either. In the meantime though I have been googling like crazy watching what I can and making sure I do as much as I can.

Hi there, Our Boof was the BIGGEST sook when he got done. He was 12 months old and sooked severely. When we got him at the vets he was moaning, while he lay waiting for us to pay. We drove him home (in back of van) and he wouldn't move he just lay their moaning again. Other half carried him to his bed and put him down. He moaned for nearly two hours on and off. Lucky this got us late enough that we put his little sister beside him on bed (she was so gentle it was absolutely gorgeous) and he settled completely and slept ALL NIGHT til about 7am the next morning. The next morning he was much livelier, not himself but much better, he slept mostly for that day and the next, then he started to return to normal. Lilly is due for stitches out Monday coming, she was 6.5 months when she got down. She didn't even whinge. Was very groggy and tired, but woke up the next day ok, but still happy to sleep mainly. The 2nd day after picking her up, she wanted to run around like mad, so we gave her a sedative to calm her and she slept most of the day. Day 3 we were out and about so they spent a lot fo time sleeping on their futons in the van. Day 4 she was allowed to roam we just stopped her from running and so the days went on. Now there'd be no knowing she has had anything done (except the stitches are still there). Good luck I'm sure Hoover will be fine. I used soap free, fragrance free baby wipes to pat the area clean and blow it dry!

Thanks Mackay is perfect, however I can't see Kim on the website. Only Sharon, Julana and Colleen? Thank you.... she is friends with the lady that owns the pet shop we have a little south so I will find my way to getting some now. Thanks heaps!

We have new houses in our area that are rented to people with no kids on purpose. The real estate agents advertised them as 'executive' living and then the owner gets last say and anyone with kids wasn't considered by the owners. If the real estate agent advertised no kids, that would be discrimination but the owner has the ultimate say and can choose on what ever basis they like, it is the agent that has to put forward the suitable applicants without discrimination. Their reasoning, they didn't want a new house wrecked by kids! So it can happen. Now before you shoot me down in flames I'm not saying it's ok or not ok.... just pointing out that it does happen, right or wrong! Please also remember I am in QLD so I'm not sure how our rules differ to other states as far as rentals go.

As a landlord with tenants that have a dog that's allowed outside only comments like that make me VERY cranky. You have been given leeway to have them in the first place. Why abuse the trust? If we had carpets that were close to needing replacement maybe I would have said yes to inside but they're not and if they move out in 6 months I dint want to advertise my house with a 'please don't apply if allergic to dogs' coz they've lived in it. There's a much bigger picture. I don't see any problem with them letting the dog in the house when they are home as long as they make sure there's no damage. That 'allergic to dogs' stuff is a crock, floors are steam cleaned when the tenant leaves as per the rental agreement and the house is cleaned. We moved in to our place with new carpet and haven't treated it like it's glass but we know that if it's damaged in any way other than normal wear that we'd need to replace it when we left. It comes down to picking tenants that will respect your property. We have flighted birds, dogs and wear shoes inside but when we leave this house will look as it was when we moved in. Clearly you haven't dealt with a severe allergy, a few hairs get missed somewhere and there's trouble. Could you give me an idea of the percentage of the population that do have such a severe allergy that even a few hairs would cause a major health problem? Seems to me that if that were the case, the new tenant would be upfront about the allergy, ask the question, and do their own cleaning before moving in. I'm sorry but I'm not concerned with the percentage at all and frankly it means nothing. You only have to get one for their to be a problem. If the whole world treated their animals and cared for them as well as those in the DOL community I wouldn't hesitate in allowing dogs inside, but unfortunately it's not the case. Unfortunate not only for owners of houses but for those dogs that don't get treated as well as they could be either.

I'm not sure where the OP is from but the laws are clearly different in Vic to QLD. She could end up evicted and put on Tika (sp) which is a database of bad tenants making it very difficult to get a rental for the next 5 years. From memory that's how long the record stays present for. Edit; spelling

Thanks Mackay is perfect, however I can't see Kim on the website. Only Sharon, Julana and Colleen?

As a landlord with tenants that have a dog that's allowed outside only comments like that make me VERY cranky. You have been given leeway to have them in the first place. Why abuse the trust? If we had carpets that were close to needing replacement maybe I would have said yes to inside but they're not and if they move out in 6 months I dint want to advertise my house with a 'please don't apply if allergic to dogs' coz they've lived in it. There's a much bigger picture. I don't see any problem with them letting the dog in the house when they are home as long as they make sure there's no damage. That 'allergic to dogs' stuff is a crock, floors are steam cleaned when the tenant leaves as per the rental agreement and the house is cleaned. We moved in to our place with new carpet and haven't treated it like it's glass but we know that if it's damaged in any way other than normal wear that we'd need to replace it when we left. It comes down to picking tenants that will respect your property. We have flighted birds, dogs and wear shoes inside but when we leave this house will look as it was when we moved in. Clearly you haven't dealt with a severe allergy, a few hairs get missed somewhere and there's trouble. It sounds like you are every landlord's dream tenant. Unfortunately the vast majority aren't like you. They do the bare minimum they think required to get a bond back and that's it. It's by far a safer option to put limitations on the 'use' of the house as deemed allowable in a tenancy agreement. This of course includes animals inside and out. What made me more cranky than the dog actually being inside, is that the poster was implying it should be done deceibtfully, that gets anyones back up immediately I would think, at least it does mine. I can't stand dishonesty and it doesn't breed a good relationship.

As a landlord with tenants that have a dog that's allowed outside only comments like that make me VERY cranky. You have been given leeway to have them in the first place. Why abuse the trust? If we had carpets that were close to needing replacement maybe I would have said yes to inside but they're not and if they move out in 6 months I dint want to advertise my house with a 'please don't apply if allergic to dogs' coz they've lived in it. There's a much bigger picture.

I guess I should note that that's with TWO dogs not one so not sure how 'lonely' one may get. We have Two for that very reason.

We have two amstaffs and they are outside only however we are outside people. My OH works an equal time roster and on his days off he is in the shed for 10-12 hours so they happily lie around watching him. When they want a play he obliges. When he's home they get walked for 45ish minutes in the morning followed by a 10-15 minute training session and a big play. Then they get breakfast. The rest of the day is there's until I get home and it's another training session, play then tea. When he's not I do the morning routine and then repeat about 1ish minus the meal, they get a pig ear or buffalo whizzer or something before I come to work. A few of the days he's away I drop them at my mum n dads on my way to work in the arve, which is a 4.5 hour shift. They get spoilt then come home and we do the normal night time routine. There beds are situated in the corner if our patio which has the sliding glass doors to the lounge on one side and the sliding windows to the dining room on the other. The kitchen dining lounge patio fill a square taking a quadrant each if that makes sense so they are very much still 'with' us. At our bed time they get cuddles then off we go. Our sliding door though also opens on to the patio and they have blankies there if they wish to be that close bug they prefer there beds. So I know fir a breeder it can be hard to believe but it can be done and we are proof. Now not everyone will think this is an ideal situation but you ask most people that know us and they'll tell you our dogs are treated better than their kids. We have none obviously. Guess after all that my point is, can a breeder really know what attention a dog will get based on it being inside or out. I know of inside dogs that get fed and that's it. They use a doggie door for in and out, no walks no training no playing a belly rub at night is about it. BUT I also know outside dogs that only get fed otherwise left to their own devices no walks no play etc. So hard to know really.

I may have missed it but is there a supplier in qld? Anywhere? We travel a bit so may be able to sort something to be picked up. We don't use kbble much as a meal mOre training treats and in activity balls etc but occasionally they get some as a meal. Currently have ep holistic select anchovy but this is getting awesome reviews.

Staranais; I'm am thinking intollerance as opposed to allergy and unfortunately when it's an intollerance there is no 'small enough' if you are sensitive enough. I do understand though how this theory works with allergies and normally quite successfully. I'm not sure on the technichalities of the 93 foods assay, yes it is done on bloods but that's my limit on knowledge of the details of the test sorry. If I can find the information sheet I was given on it I will see if it tells me. Noisy; I'm in Nth QLD, but by all means I would be glad to pass on her details if you need to contact her for further info. Erny; It seems you have tried just about EVERYTHING.... I hope something comes to light for you soon.

Thanks guys, this thread just explained my Boofy's perk the other morning! They got nothing before bed like they normally do. He seemed fine except the one puke so now I know why. Thanks a bunch!

Noisymama; I'm not sure exactly but I have been aware of it myself for over 5 years. My naturopath uses it, the blood is obviously taken at a path lab and the results are gernerally sent through to GP and the Naturopth. It costs about $500 and there is no rebate through pvt health funds or medicare, but when you have a food problem it's well worth it. I have friends that have has their kids tested with things ranging from unexplained coughs to bad behaviour being improved once an intollerance is identified and removed from the diet. One lil fella couldn't eat: gluten, soy, egg and lactose. Once mum removed them from his diet he was a completely different kid, behaviourally and physically! He was the one with the cough. SnT; I know it is a 'should' but normally when there is an intollerance, there is NO disguising the source or making it small enough it's not an issue. My mum is a full blown ceoliac from eating gluten for years whilst being intollerant and unaware. She is now so severe that if she eats PLAIN potato chips that got bagged straight after a flavoured packet she gets sick, VERY SEVERE. Myself on the other hand, as I was aware QUITE YOUNG of the possibility of intollerance (coz of mum) I can tollerate VERY SMALL amounts providing I keep it out of my diet 98% of the time. If Mandela's intollerance is bad enough it won't matter whether it's hydrolized or not. However for probably 95% of cases the z/d would do the trick perfectly seeing as though it is hydrolized proteins. Oh to be in the norm! Erny; Like I said I have no idea if it's even possible for dogs, but with technology and scientific advancement these days I'd be saying it's well worth asking the question. In humans you can go even further and have a HAIR SENSITIVITY test done. They take strands of hair and test some 300 odd 'supermarket' products against it for sensitivity/intollerance. My issue with this test is it doesn't identify in the 'food source' what it is you are intollerant to. Ie: my naturopath can eat organic brocolli but not supermarket purchases brocolli. Unfortunately the test doesn't tell her what in the supermarket brocolli is the problem. In the right circumstances she will use the hair and blood assay in conjunction often providing a much clearer picture when the results are collated and compared. As for Mandela I think he really does throw 'should' out the window poor fella!!

Good luck, I hope for your sake it's not a protein intollerance, that could make life really difficult. Also I don't know if this is possible with dogs, but with humans, there is a blood test known as a 93 Foods Assay, which basically tests to see if you are intollerant to 93 different food sources. It is often used to diagnose lactose/gluten/soy/egg intollerances etc. Being gluten intollerant myself I so understand the pain and discomfort of digestion issues..... Hugs to Mandela!