Erny

I'm sorry. I'm not trying to duck out of this one. I tried to re-watch. I can't. I'll take your word for it as to what you saw. It's just not as I remember it. As I said in my first post, it just seemed to me as though the drama was set up for more than was necessary. I don't know why I remember it that way if there is only the one footage. Beg my pardon if I'm wrong. I don't understand why there is such a discrepancy to my mind's eye though.

They do look a healthy group, don't they? Congrats Dyzney. Good luck with their development and your pick of the bunch.

No. That is DEFINITELY NOT what I saw. The dog that was shot was merely standing. It was already standing there when the officer walked in and up towards it. It barked at the officer. It stopped barking for a couple of seconds, looked away (around towards where the other dog was, over to the other side of the yard). That was when it was shot. The dog recoiled at the shot, was yelping and was then hidden by the tree when the officer had to fire at least another couple of shots before the dog stopped (presumably dead). There has to be different footage otherwise I am simply losing my marbles (shut-up ..... don't anyone dare agree with that, lol). As I mentioned, there were other things in this thread that made me wonder if there was different footage.

Can vouch for Bowen Therapy For a hands on therapy that is very gentle on the animal you can achieve significant results. Yes - I do believe I'm seeing significant results and some of those are quite immediate. Only had two treatments so far but the results appeared evident even from the first session. I'm also hoping the Bowen will help with Mandela's digestive system and his well-being in general. That would be an excellent bonus spin-off. Next visit, I'm gonna have it done to me too :D.

What I saw (correction : what I remember seeing) is a dog who was standing there. It did bark at the officer a couple of times, paused and looked away. It was then the officer shot the dog. Maybe I got distracted from the footage (I didn't think so.). Maybe there is different footage (as there are other things people have talked about that I've gone "huh??" at. But I'm not going back to check. I don't want to see it again.

In between treatment that can help is some Bowen therapy. Interested in Rappie's responses because my boy has mild spondylosis as well. His was diagnosed by xray at 15 months .

The dogs didn't rush nor appear it was going to rush the police officer . Are you guys staying with the video footage?

+1. Best wishes to your Dad for his health and of course to your dog as well.

I'm in agreement with the essence of Blackdogs' posts. Based on the contents of the video footage, the dogs' behaviour did not to me suggest that of high aggression and apart from the concern as to whether the little Beagle was harmed, I got no sense of imminent danger or major threat. In fact, the feeling I came away with was one of over dramatisation and lack of any form of attempt by anyone to call the dogs to them (or better still, away). That, and a feeling of repulse. And just because opinions might have it that the Officer shot poorly or unnecessarily, it does not go to follow that the whole of the or any police force is therefore tarred with the same brush. I have a high respect for our Police Force, although I can't comment on the force where this video footage was taken (and can't bring myself to replay it just to check). I resent any assertion that a criticism in this respect must be equated as a criticism to all police officers.

I agree with getting a Vet check done and in particular a full panel thyroid check. Best place for testing and analysis for the thyroid check is, IMO, via Dr Jean Dodds in USA. Will cost you extra because of the FedEx International Courier fee which is about $70.00. And IF your dog's sudden/recent change in behaviour includes having become particularly clingy to your Dad and that this has been in the absence of any changes in your and your Dad's behaviour/routines, then I tend to share Blackdog's opinion (above).

Gosh .... that IS a small amount. How big (or little) are your dogs? Shame it isn't agreeing with them but coincidental that it is affecting them both. Is there a chance that they copped a tummy bug at around the same time as you began the PlaqueOff, do you think?

How many scoops are you giving, TeamSnag? Did you introduce it slowly?

Hi Sandgrugger . In defence of Souff, I read her OP as a spin on the saying, not that she was taking literally or misunderstanding what the Ex-PM's daughter was expressing.

Thanks Team Snag. I missed that.

Going by what was video taped that was such a set up. RIP doggy. That was horrible. Notice the owner of the Beagle was doing nothing to try to coax the beagle inside? Even when the other two dogs desisted with bothering it the first time around? And the first time around, that struck me as a short play scenario, not an attack. The dog barked at the cop and then stopped and looked around. The actions of those people were gross.

You put it in food on a daily basis. Dosage depends on body weight. Large dog around 3 very tiny spoon fulls (spoon provided). I had a 60g bottle and that has lasted me about 2.5 months (large dog dosage). I bought the small bottle first to make sure my dog was able to take it ok. It has a long enough shelf life (what I bought has an expiry in 2016) and my boy seems to be coping with it well enough, so I've just purchased a 180g bottle, which works out cheaper.

Oakway - did you find it was a very gradual reduction in the plaque? I think the plaque is reducing but it is taking a good amount of time for us. I've almost completed one small bottle of the Plaque Off. Are my expectations too high?

I would also guess that swimming exercise in both directions would assist in developing an evenness in muscle tone and flexibility. But I would consult with a physio/canine swim specialist first. If you're in Victoria, someone like Michelle at Dogs in Motion would be my first port of call.

What "The Cheeky Monster" said above is one of the suggestions I was going to make. She's around 1'ish now? But another thing, before you do anything regards re-training, insisting, etc. is to check the crate size. Is she comfortable in it? If it is too cramped, or if she is hitting her back on the way in, that could be enough to put her off.

Really? See, if you're making that as a sweeping statement to all homeopathy, that's where I disagree. I can certainly attest to Calendula Tea having tremendous results for the applications I have put it to. And because of the Calendula, I've been able to steer away from anti-histamines, cortisone. So saying "Homeopathy can never work" is a huge statement that in my experience is simply wrong.

A little bit of "agree to disagree" from me. Admittedly, I'm not a scientist. But even what you've written about "truth is it did nothing", might potentially be anecdotal, assuming you're speaking generally and not keeping it specific. In some cases homeopathy can do something. The other thing I don't like is sending the message to people that drugs might be the more important thing to reach for because the majority of problem behaviours I see and work with are there due to owners not having time to work with their dogs. Often, get the interactions going and going well, and the problem improves considerably. I'm not against drugs, but I do think they should be regarded and used judiciously and not as the first option. Also, even if you are right in that RR doesn't work (I don't use it myself), it could just be the placebo that people need to relax a bit, and that (ie owners relaxing) might be what their dog actually needed.

I agree, Greytmate. Although I think it is a little OT which is why I didn't mention it, but definitely IMO from what I read and hear, there are too many times when drugs are prescribed without behaviour modification technique support. Or ..... would behaviour modification techniques be included as conjunctive (not sure if that's the right word I'm looking for) homeopathic treatment?

That's true, but save for when it's an immediate and urgent danger of irreversible harm, isn't a homeopathic remedy such as Rescue Remedy better to try first, rather than reaching for the drug cabinet? See no results in the very short term if not immediately, then move on to the 'big guns' so to speak?

What do you class as "regular" worming, Oztoller? And IMO the heart worm medication is only really needed when in a climate that promotes and permits heart worm development and where there are the mosquitoes to transmit it.

Yeah - wasn't really thinking of the blood stain so much as the dog. Tepid to cool water. But I'd avoid the caustic treatment. The hair will eventually moult.