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looks like this the only wire haired pointers but not grffen's https://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/breeders/wirehaired-slovakian-pointer.asp cute, less messy face

I've a neighbour with a golden retriever, he warranted a dangerous dog labelling, old age eliminated the danger finally

Is is going to be as enforced as the microchipping? Last I looked over 75% of lost dogs aren't chipped.... so minimum 75% who bred them are not registered breeders. Don't chip and .ost likely don't vaccinate and never have and never will be pocta assessed....... Meanwhile less and less are going to remain registered breeders and less and less prepared to become one.....

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=1256849663154943&set=a.602637001909549 still doesn't address the fact that out of the 500,000 known must be born annually (from the census figures of how many millions of australians have a pet dog or cat) the ankc members australia wide bred only 75,000 doubt any of the other pet registries bred much more so that only accounts for some 150,000 of the 350,000 under the radar and would account for the fact that on average 90% of lost dogs scanned dont have a chip..despite chipping ALL puppies bred before being sold has been law for over 30 years now, correct me if I'm wrong!........ so there is still over 300,000 bred and sold by untraceable people............... the under the radar will be the only ones left at this rate. I dont know anyone who wants to become a registered breeder now. to pass the pocta inspection your a puppy farm... no hobby breeders now.. the time line for extinction of registered (both ankc and pet registered) dogs boasted by Peta is well on track. its only the black market that will remain total joke, no crackdown on illegal breeding.. only elimination of registered breeders as peta boasted was well on track in 2020 as the spokesperson said, "legislation to date has been so successful is on track to the extinction of the domestic dog and cat within this generation" so anything else being passed in the last 5 years is just to speed up the process. my vet told me they were not talking the human generation, they mean the pets generation, in 2020 his belief 2040 is more the time line.... considering how many people owe their sanity to their pets, going to be a disaster for mental health facilities...... The policitions and the pet loving people of australia are being blindsided into sending their much loved pets into extinction following the call to eliminate puppy farms when the real agenda is exactly what that peta spokesperson said on air in 2020 prior to that years melbourn cup. is there time to wake up and stop this? If richard miller was right, its passed that line already.

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This information is for everyone else who doesn't have their own stock Whatever dogs or horses or motorbikes bring them in has nothing to do with the flavour of the meat, native pasture, herbal tint, lot fed different , too long between sale yard and slaughter, changes flavour and texture , stressed even more before slaughter great changes.... None good. Best is home kill, second best, straight to slaughter facility and done that day. Taste and tenderness way better than you would ever find at a butcher or supermarket

Must tell piss off Benny ACS's don't roam , hilarious He even shifted a 15 kg rock to get out for a run, Paul weighed it, he just couldn't believe it

Hasn't happened last century not going too, coolies havbeen around over a hundred years alreadye this ANKC n the show world was never wanted by the working Kelpies or coolies Ditto for the wire hair stumpies As well there are thousands of acd's and stumpies never registered with ANKC they are our national breeds with or without pedigrees Pedigree dogs exposed put the whole show world on the world stage n not in a good light if you haven't seen it yet When I bought my first Pure bred in 78 a Chihuahua there were already two strains, the so small delivery by cesearian, or the self helpers. The standard had the sentence "in the case of equal merit the more diminutive preferred" Except the judges were skipping the "equal merit " n straight to the tinyiest.... Protested then that it should be removed from the standard as they shouldn't be so tiny can only survive if puppies delivered by cesearian.... Decades later.... After and only after Pedigree dogs Exposed went global.... Surprise, surprise.... It was deleted,....... Reactive but rarely proactive is the ANKC biggest weakness

No need to recreate the wheel all over again. Better to stick with the breed you like and since there is enough variation within, each breed. can select for the traits you want. Why start X breeding again when the work had already been done?

Yes Never understood the change to all responsible, ethical breeders will life health guarantee their puppies. For life ... No one can do that. Not even for your own child. Whatever happened to reality. All life is a lottery. Once if misfortune struck then it happened because of sin. Or other centuries evil spells. Now if it's a pet the breeder is unethical. Blame game is still busy. Yes there are many dna markers available to reduce such known ones from the gene pool and pups But there are many more still to be mapped. Not only for our pups and other livestock but our children too Life and lifetime health today is still not guaranteed Not yet anyway but we can hope might come

Was reading a post about what is quality in a show dog. One sentance in particular caught my attention "What is quality? It cannot be defined in breed standards or divided into measurements. But like charm and breeding in human beings, it must forever remain independent of legislation. It is an intangible something which does not depend entirely on line but a combination of line, thickness, thinness, width, depth, and curve; their relationship to one another producing a certain perfection and exquisiteness of harmony without which dull correctness is lifeless and uninteresting. A pride of carriage, a ripple of movement, suppleness and grace of modelling which other animals equally good in points have not got. The conventional eye accustomed to dull correctness, or in pursuit of sheer utility, will never make a judge!" To me, among those of equal quality some carry themselves with a pride that I have heard referred to as "presence" some have in spades" Others just don't care . Strangely it's not a sign that the don't care in the line doesn't have the determination of steel in completing the task it was actually bred for. Anyway back to the sentance that I referred to. "The conventional eye accustomed to dull correctness , or in pursuit of sheer utility" How ever did correctness become to be considered "dull" There in a nutshell is the driving force that has morphed breeds of all species since the show scene began, the thing not in the standard, the seeking and awarding to the whatever displays a new fashion, be it longer coat, (too many breeds to name) bigger eyes, (ditto) shorter muzzle, (king Charles, pug, French bulldog; bulldog just name some) longer ears, (bassett) narrower head (red setter) What do you call the changes to the original German shepherd? From athletes to ? Once proud police dogs to not a one suitable for that job replaced by other not "improved " breeds. All our breeds evolved for a purpose. Show scene moves the goal posts and the respect of the people who want thir chosen breed fit for purpose. Another public relations fail.. Exaggeration is not "improvement" no matter how often repeated

When I bred cavaliers over a decade ago I heard people begin crying when I said I would sell them a puppy on main register. The rot has been going on for decade's treating puppy buyers as potential criminals is a major public perception disaster ANKC members vilify each other mercilessly , the ongoing toxicology did nothing positive towards either public or members respect for each other. When I joined in the 70's newbies were welcomed to the dog world family, encouraged to become members, to come to shows, mentored and encouraged. Once the change began in the 80's from welcoming to suspicion, IE...is this person an unethical puppy farmer we need purging from the ANKC to preserve our reputation? The switch began slowly but the speed gain had many beginning to question do I want to to be a member of this back stabbing group By 1999 the assumption breeder members were unethical puppy farmer's had even spread to the way staff at the office treated us at the desk, come in to report a litter registration was incorrect, ie long coat chi puppy/puppies registered as short coat, or vice versa, instantly told, your fault, filled out registration wrong, have to pay fine to correct registration, in one instance every pup in the litter,, so quite a hefty fine. As I had submitted it in writing I asked for my original litter registration form. Even after they fond it, still wanted to fine me, even though it was filled out stating long coat registration on front page. The excuse being l hadn't rewritten that on back of page under the names and chip no. Even though there is no box for that on on back page. No kidding. Get told the computer automatically register 's the puppies mother's coat length to them (mum was a smooth coat) Since the staff entered the details from the handwritten form how can the computer be "automatically" filling in their coat length? Only after appealing to the office secretary for what was obviously a staff error could this be corrected without me being fined. The disrespectful attitude and behaviour made any contact unpleasant. As for all the board we noticed the same suspicion attitude, breeder members possibly puppy farmer's. Many were so offended began considering resign, many did and still do. Around this time some decided to form another breed registration where members could feel respected not suspected and in 2007 the MDBA came into being. As for how breeders were treating the public wanting a pedigree pup was changing to suspicion instead of welcome... Public relations disaster in the making, getting the garden gnome so offside (until then an ANKC member and breeder himself) took the issue to the media where he went to recommending X breds as the far better choice. Been continuing downhill fall than slide ever since. As for the limit registration only dead end kennels being the only ethical and responsible by making sure none of their puppies could fall into the hands of a puppy farmer.... Intimating any who do sell on main aren't ethical.. Leading to mass sterilisation of baby puppies to be doubly sure couldn't happen hasn't been a PR winner

So you bought your pup from a dogzonline member? You have to be a ankc member here I'm sure. Well last I heard Doesn't make sense. Although these days we are all sitting ducks to be called puppy farmers anyway... No one is safe.. You must be inspected to ensure you conform to the POCTA legislation. Even if you had only one and it lives in the home with you. You MUST have a kennel and run, fence minimum 6 feet (they measure it to the inch.) Enclosed exercise area minimum 6 feet. Separate isolation/quarantine kennel and run. List of "staff" (will accept family members as staff) fire extinguisher. Evacuation plan. In event of flood or fire. Signage of your vet name and phone no Have I missed anything? So surely the blueprint of a puppy farm. No pass. No dogs... All tarred with same brush seems to me According to the rumour mill Victoria is introducing annual registration fees at double the previous amount. Said will be adopted by all states. Financial elimination of pet owners who cannot afford the increase..

I noticed in the abc competition muster dogs between kelpie and border collie pups that many didn't like the border collies as they preferred the kelpie initiative whereas border's liked to be micro managed. Plenty of unhappy acd owners there hasn't been an ACD version yet. Some of mine work chooks, goats and cattle for their owners

Just a pic of the vaccination? Major red flags Every puppy should have it's own certificate come with it and microchip paperwork The parents or the puppies to be dna'd

You are pretty much on your own those who like stumpys keep them many breed them hence so many available for assessment when the register was opened. Others like the cattledog, of course there are others like my friend who prefers the wirehaired stumpies. Just as if you visit Tarana near Bathurst almost. Every property has coolies, majority Merle they are so popular, the patch pattern Merle. The whole reason there are so many different breeds is so many people have different expectations of what they want in their dog

Hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. Or the pending results so final

You would need to ask Hilton he knew the lines, too far back for me. Sadly he has passed. Ask dogs NSW if if they still have the book Hilton is mentioned in, it has lots of the early history of the breeders Why are you ignoring the very different physique of ACD v ASTCD? Also are you aware that breeding stumpy tail to stumpy tail parents Means two copies in a pup is lethal. Hence stumpy to tailed stumpy yields bigger live litters

Do you realise there are other stumpies, larger with wire coat. My friend has them, he bought from breeders in Qld n NSW. He calls them Smithfield's He has had them on and off for fifty years, always wire coated No one has applied to have them ANKC recognised He has never had a problem finding a replacement when he wants another when the old one dies Are U going to include them? Have existed parallel to the others Tony said

She had no other bloodlines accessible once the ANKC had deregistered all other ASTCD breeder's She made it worse by never selling any on main registration's to anyone else so nothing available save what she kept. .the two types have always been very different, square v longer than tall, lighter Kelpie type v heavier Even with a full tail a stumpy is obvious

A friend bought a pup from me, was about ten months later he rang me voice shaking in shock. "I think Jesse just saved my life" He had been walking along the path beside the Nepean river, which he and Jessie do every day. She loved meeting people for a pat, especially the children. But this day to his surprise she stopped walking at heel and dropping back behind him began growling. He turned to see what she was growling at and to his shock staring at a man holding a knife, the second Jessie knew he saw the man was threatening him she leapt to attack, he caught her and as she struggled to attack the idiot with the knife finally realised Jessie would attack the second she could break free and turned and ran. They can read people's body language as surely as stock.. First thing I impressed on Mick he must train her properly as cattledog's like all herding breeds were bred for initiative . If he didn't, she would train him.

The ACD was always dual purpose, working dog on stock and guardian of their owner and family as well as possessions. I was never allowed to go anywhere unless my dad's dog Blue was with me, no one could approach me unless Blue recognised them as family or friend. when Hilton gave my daughter Berrilyn Blur debutant, even when baby and puppy were ten months old Debbie guarded my daughter's nappy when she dropped it. Hilton had given my daughter's eldest brother a puppy 16 years earlier, Debbie was a grandaughter of that pup . . We gave her brother one of Debbie's pups and when he married and brought his daughter home Bennie and his daughter Rosie assumed guard duty soon as he introduced them to his baby daughter. He rang me 3 days later to apologise for never believing my story that when I was sent to the corner shop with blue as escort, people would cross the road, rather than come within 15 foot of blue and me. He said sue wanted to go for a walk and Benny and Rosie instead of staying at heel went straight to the front either side of the pram despite him telling them to return to heel. As they walked he realised people coming the other way were crossing the street. To see why he went to the other side and level with the dogs. To his amazement as a person walked towards sue and the pram, soon as they began to come less than 20 feet both dogs lifted their lips to show teeth, the person crossed the road. Which was what I had as a child realised Blue had done so many decades before protecting me. When there aren't stock to work a good cattledog will curl up at the door and guard you, your family, your home and anything it associates as yours, put your scent on something, to your dog, that's yours now. Before cars your dog guarded your horse, swag and goods. Good car n ute guards Many a tradie has his ACD to ensure no tools go missing Why you don't see cattledog's in a backyard trying to round up birds like u see Kelpies and border collie's that aren't dual purpose and don't have a herding off button .

Last comment 2020 Wonder how many available Australia wide now

Stumbled on this and the poem, change for changes sake isn't always a good thing... "On a recent poke around the 2nd hand bookstore in Corryong, I found a little treasure written by Neil Hulm. "Where the Snow Grass Grows". His family has had a strong connection and presence in the mountains since before it became a park. I wanted to share one of his poems. A MOUNTAIN HERITAGE LOST Could I be told what a heritage is, Surely it's something we see, Is it to hold, or give away? That's not the way it strikes me. We must have parks, reserves and such, essential, I would think we all agree, But without any votes, a handful of blokes Can close land, from the Plains to the Sea. A fair control is a different role, But the grazing stopped, shut down. Have you ever known of country men For heritage, close down a town? PACK HORSES, PACK SADDLES, GREEN HIDE ROPES, HUTS, SALT LOGS AND HORSE PADDOCK RAILS, STOCKYARDS, DOGS, SHEEP AND CATTLE, AND LONELY STEEP STOCK TRAILS!! Bush fires now burn red hot and turn to black dust, that was thick grass and sticks. Controlled burn was slow on lease years ago, The snow grass remained firm and thick. One heritage strongly guarded, While another one thrown away. In the same place, on the mountain face One banished, the other will stay. Swarms of bees in the Snow Gum trees, Honey birds hover and sing, The beautiful scent from the heather And the herbage that flowers in Spring. 'HUTS, SALT LOGS, HORSE PADDOCK RAILS, STOCK TRAILS, LONELY AND STEEP!!' SURELY, AN AUSTRALIAN HERITAGE LOST, WE FOUGHT FOR, BUT FAILED TO KEEP. Neil Hulm Cochran Horse Treks Peter on Sparkie at the Man from Snowy River Festival Reenactment 2019. National parks so badly managed we watched them burn from Victoria to Sydney, billions of native animals died along with rfs volunteers and families, all land once managed by locals until seized by Govt and given to idiots to mismanage.. Same is happening to all pet owners, govt micromanagement to the point PETA spokesperson boasted "legislation passed to date has been so successful l we anticipate domestic dogs and cats will be extinct within this generation " Sadly you may be documenting the end days of pet ownership if pet owners and blindsided pollies don't wake up in time, or is it too late already?

When I was a kid in the 1950's any cattle dog that didn't have any eye patches was called a Merle. (Absolutely nothing to do with the coat colour of other breeds) Has been so until fairly recently, until people have began calling them clear faced... Bit like the changes in describing a horse's height. 14 hands is 14 X 4 inches. 14.2 hh is 14x 4 inches and 2 inches above that high. Now we see idiots putting 14.5 hh. Hands is not a metric measurement. how on earth can you metric 14.2 1/2 hands high??? It's 2 1/2 inches higher than 14 hands. My stallion Nea was measured at Sydney Royal 14.3 3/4 hands high. iE one quarter of an inch under 15 hands high... Query the advertiser who put metric after . They have a hissy fit. Say Merle today and the clear faced brigade argue that gene isn't in the breed. It isn't.. the word for over a hundred years meant no patches not even a small black dot. Perhaps the question is, tradition or rewriting the past for new political correctness? .