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  1. had a phone call from a friend whose puppy has been recently attacked in the street while out for a walk. Her puppy is so traumatised now she is refusing to leave the house. So distressed when she tried to carry her out the door she snarled at her and snapped her her to let her go then fled back into the house. she has no idea who the person was whose dog attacked hers, soon as they caught it they took off. (probably to avoid any vet bills I suspect or being reported to council) She is hoping I have a solution. Sadly apart from going to therapists for advice im out of my depth on this. I do walk my dogs but I avoid any loose dogs like the plague for the same reason everyone else does. If do spot one i head the other way and tend to grab the biggest stick I can find for defence if its needed to keep it well back before any thing can happen. So far telling the other dog "go Home " seems to confuse them enough to get away and many do exactly that, take off for home, its one sentence many dogs seem to have heard often
  2. a hobby still should not ignore your input. the happiest people are doing something they love and getting paid for it. yet breeding, your time is worth nothing? why? my son loves doing plumbing. loves the challenge of tough jobs and the satisfaction of well done. yet he is a master plumber and gets paid for doing what he loves. my daughter loves her job selling goods, she is so good at it she even sold more stuff to the sales rep there to show her boss their new product lines for them to stock of her companies products. Come in to get a bridle and go home with all the extras and a new outfit for the next show with matching, saddle cloth, blouse, boots etc. My dad loved fixing trucks but he was paid for the work he did. my neighbour Doc was a fellow of the royal college of surgeons and he loved his job. even when he had a stoke and could barely manage to talk he still diagnosed a life threatening condition and saved my friends life. all were well paid for their expertise I have never agreed with the "O im ethical, I lose money on any litter I raise. its the only way to be ethical" As anyone who knows the time, effort and expertise to not only breed and raise a healthy litter, it also takes heaps of learning to achieve the knowledge to do so and breed consistent quality. Yet your effort is worth nothing? if you want to wear the ethical label? sadly. but to me that's changing the meaning of ethical to stupid. Along with ensuring the only people allowed to breed are independently wealthy or you cannot do so.
  3. some more new legislation being pushed to add more pressure to those who still breed, more will decide to give up and less will want to become a target. so agenda still on track
  4. as coneye said. if a dog decides to attack it has absolutely no idea there are rules the humans expect it to go by. all the crap you hear, only people are cruel, only people kill for no reason. only people, bla, bla, bla. well sunshine A dog will do as it pleases when it pleases. unless its been trained not do and even then, if the human isn't there to intervene when a spat happens, shit happens. Some come how to find one of their dogs are dead and the reminder happy wagging tails at the gate and no one is going to tell you what happened. my friend woke up to find her sons kelpie dead beside her bed. her Labrador asleep beside her. he had kill ed the 13 month old kelpie while she slept . her lab was 14 and for over a week he kept searching for the kelpie, which distressed her no end. just to make it even more distressing, then then went downhill fast and had to be put down due to his age issues so no dog household. when my daughter was young our two dogs suddenly decided they hated each other. we had a choice. put one down, rehome, (forget retrain, they wanted to kill each other, no idea why, neither would explain) the solution was two separate yards and only have one with us at any given time. Kept separate no more fights to deal with and run up massive vet bills. although after a year or so a friend asked could she have Jody to take to rides for company and she became her's. She lived to 17 but she would not tolerate other dogs if they came too close at a ride and made it clear her camp was off limits to any canine visitors . humans too if my friend wasn't there too
  5. well this one will also end puppy farms too though, no puppy farm could remain viable if they can only breed 2 litters and the bitch desexed. well unless the prices go over the 10 to 20,000 mark? come to think of it, they probably will. people will have to pay or they cant have a dog, simple as that
  6. Exactly correct, the pack cry to "eliminate backyard breeders and puppy farmers" has eliminated tens of thousands of ankc members alone. I have no doubt its done the same to similar percentage of other register members. The attitude of potential puppy buyers has driven many away as well, the ever obvious "is this person a fit and proper person to have bred my fur child" or the ever increasing number who view the breeder as having "prostituted their fur child and then sold their fur grandchildren" This was one too much for me the day the officious bastard asked me, mind you only after she had her "rescued fur child" safely in her car and about to leave. did she ask me "how can you live with yourself? Prostituting your fur child and then selling your fur grandchildren?" As others have said. Be careful what you wish for. there are over 28 million Australians. The amazing contributions our pets make to our mental health is enormous, utterly enormous! yet the never ending vilification of any who actually breed the pets so many of us adore and need in our lives borders on the insane Common sense, is no longer common, in fact I think its almost been eradicated from the human race the silence even here on the subject is very sad. the nutters have the pollies scrambling to legislate all companion animal breeding into extinction. I even posted the latest insult to the few now left that has been drafted with hopes of being made law by the animal justice party whose sole aim has nothing to do with animal justice, I doubt our animals want to become extinct, we know how much they love life. but soon there will be only those in the wild with the chance to be born. because that is the agenda, extinction of the domestic dog and cat. Horses are next. after them cattle sheep, goats u name it. THAT IS THE AGENDA and who is waking up to this? precious few
  7. DOG PARKS have been a disaster waiting for the next attack for decades. Always have been and always will be. they have pecking orders so every time strangers meet its a risk one or both will decide to attack instead of play. I get so tired of hearing only people are nasty, only people are cruel. the speakers have never had to get two dogs fighting apart. have never seen a dog grab another and shake it like a rat, let alone in unsupervised situation every other dog can and will join in tearing the target apart if no one stops them. dogs have no concept of cruelty, no concept that to kill is a crime if they decide to do so. the level of lack of knowledge of dog behaviour across the board is frankly very unfortunate. not only for the mental damage to anyone in such a situation when it unfolds, but the target dog being attacked
  8. https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bill/files/3885/First Print.pdf https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bill/files/3885/XN Companion Animals Amendment (Puppy Farms) Bill 2021.pdf
  9. no one seems to be discussing the pending legislation if they get it through, no bitch to have more than 2 litters before desexing. n vet certificate as fit for breeding or cant breed 2nd litter. if you own more than 3 must be a registered business. there must be minimum 1 staff for every 5 dogs and staff on hand 24/7 is what I have been told is already drafted and waiting to get passed in nsw parliament. so much for eliminating puppy farms only the likes of kellyville pets will be allowed to breed once this is law. that will bel all that is left. no council is going to let you run a "businness" in Sydney or its suburbs, many country towns eg Dorrigo wont let you have an undesexed bitch unless she is housed in and air conditioned shed. That became law there almost 3 years ago now? dont see a peep from the ankc in my emails or here or have it missed it???????
  10. A customer asked me how much it cost to make a table.... I answered him: $ 1500 He said: So expensive for this job? I asked: How much do you think it would cost you? He answers me: $ 800 maximum... That's a pretty simple job right? !" - For $ 800 I invite you to do it yourself. - But.... I don't know how to. - For $800 I'll teach you how to. So besides saving you $700, you'll get the knowledge for the next time you want - It seemed right to him and he agreed. - But to get started: you need tools: A table saw, a planer, a top, dormants, etc... - But I don't have all these equipment and I can't buy all of these for one job. - Well then for another $250 more I'll rent my stuff to you so you can do it. - Okay, he says. - Okay! Tuesday I'm waiting for you to start doing this work - But I can't on Tuesday I only have time today. - I'm sorry, but I'm only available Tuesday to teach you and lend you my stuff. Other days are busy with other customers. - Okay! That means I'm going to have to sacrifice my Tuesday, give up my tasks. - I forgot. To do your job yourself, you also have to pay for the nonproductive factors. - That is? What is this?" - Bureaucratic, tax, vat, security, insurance, fuel etc. - Oh no!... But to accomplish these tasks, I'm going to spend more money and waste a lot of time! - Do you have them? You can do it to me before?" - Okay! - I'll make you all the material you need. Truck loading is done Monday evening or Tuesday morning you'll have to come by 6 loading the truck. Don't forget to be on time to avoid traffic jams and be on time - At 6??? Nope! Too early for me! I used to getting up later. ... - You know, I've been thinking. Y ' all better get the job done. I'd rather pay you the $1500. If I had to, it wouldn't be perfect and it would cost me a lot more. When you pay for a job, especially handcrafted, you pay not only for the material used, but also: - Knowledge - Experience - Study - Tools - Services - Time to go - punctuality - Accountability - Professionalism - Accuracy - Guaranteed - Patents - Sacrifices - Safety and security - Payment of tax obligations No one can denigrate other people's work by judging prices. Only by knowing all the elements necessary for the production of a certain work can you estimate the actual cost. I did not write this dialogue, but am sharing it to support craftsmen and entrepreneurs.
  11. now for miracle number two. change the emphasis from show fads to health and soundness. no more faces so short they cant breathe normally cant whelp without a ceaserarian. as for eliminating mitral valve and so many other life shortening genes. it can be done. need another mind change, save semen at least best case, also eggs in best case. so dogs and bitches which old age prove are free and or live into healthy old age. none of this can be selected for while they are young enough to breed from. if members could all work for the good of all and their breed. pool resources and save for the future. identified males is cheaper than also saving eggs from the girls/ once identified clear for the conditions there is no dna tests for yet, they can be used to breed clear puppies. in normal scenario it can take up to 12 generations of clear males to create a clear population, but I found when I did what my geneticist friend told me what to do had completely clear after only 6 generations. ok, seems a long time. but surely well worth the result no more fodder to be found for a 2nd "pedigree dogs exposed" documentary
  12. for decades the thought police have been telling us, you should not ask a price to cover the cost of breeding a puppy, that's why puppy prices for ankc puppies stayed low for so long. The desire to be seen as ethical and responsible meant you never bred except to replace the parents. only a puppy farmer bred more than that and the second the thought police decided, they got busy dialing rspca, animal welfare and local council to humiliate the target and hoping they would be charged with something. the assumption if you bred your dogs you had to do so at a loss somehow made you a better person had me at a loss, I used to ask does your doctor, your plumber, your mechanic say im ethical, im responsible my time is worth nothing, im happy to do the job for less than the cost of parts and equipment? as for a wage to live on? no my time is worth nothing. I want to be ethical and responsible that's all I desire. why the ankc's main base of pensioners in the 80's began to disappear as they just could not dare ask enough to cover the ever rising costs of living let alone vet bills, it was a decades long campaign to restrict all but the independently wealthy from breeding if you were an ankc member. it was unrelenting destruction from within, the steady decline in membership, litters bred is all there to see in the annual returns. as for the eliminating puppy farms and back yard breeders, well all that has achieved is legislation to ensure the existence of the POCTA inspections which is what? Blue print for a puppy farm? As a friend said not that long ago, I dont think we belong in the ankc anymore, the first prerequisite for being a member today is stupidity. I am AMAZED people here are finally speaking sense. only taken 40 years. CONGRATULATIONS ALL.
  13. oodles can never become a fixed type, until their admirers can select for the non shedding gene just for one or there is no point to the resulting puppies anyway. BUT as so many see, too many oodle lovers keep forgetting they need to be regularly groomed AND CLIPPED. TOO MANY poodle owners forget too. I gave up grooming other peoples because they would turn up with an unwashed, ungroomed bundle of knots to the skin and expect to pay the same price as a clean tangle free. forget it as for more and more laws? you cant legislate out stupid. nice if it could be done though
  14. the ankc is largely geared to exclusion. exclusion of anyone perceived to not breeding only to replace for the next generation. exclusion of anyone perceived to breed pets. my friends Nancy Gate and Betty Stepkovitch used to occasionally take one of mine and show it to champion to shut up the people who thought I was not showing enough and stop dialing the rspca to try and get me into trouble enough to give up being a member and that was from 1980 on. I did show occasionally but I did not like the show scene, I did not like attitudes of too many there, I sure did not like that too many saw no problem with ceaser only lines long as they won in the ring? I would argue, how can you do this? what if someone outback buys one? if no vet near to do a ceaser she will die? when my sister wanted a cavalier it took me six months to find a litter that neither the parents or puppies had hernias? a supposed top breeder told me "no way will I keep second best because its hernia free, i doubt you will be able to find a hernia free cavalier within 12 years" all that before pedigree dogs exposed what I already knew, a ribbon was more important than health in the show world they had lost the plot longer ago than many realise
  15. only a breeder is supposed to fit the ethical responsible definition by making so little they could not afford to breed unless the sufficient finances to do so at a loss, your time alone is considered to be worth nothing without factoring food, vet, maintenance and parasite, heartworm etc. the mainstay of ankc breeder members used to be pensioners who relied on the 'pin money from their puppies.
  16. umm its not just our domestic pets in danger according to this. serious food for thought, pardon the pun. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/sep/17/are-we-eating-ourselves-to-extinction?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwAR0s4ftAobzaygq6g4iYhApDxbfIvwx8kpNXhfEifEsguuasxbh3jlH_9Kc
  17. "Jessica Hekman: I think it would be that the way that we handle dog breeding as a society is not keeping up with the changes of the 21st century, and that we need to change how we handle dog breeding. I don't think that the changes are actually that difficult. I think the most difficult thing will be overcoming the entrenched perspective in the culture of dog breeding about being what an ethical, responsible breeder looks like. If we can start changing what that picture of a responsible, ethical breeder is, or expanding it to include some new characters, that would be the message that I would want to get across to everybody" be a miracle to get them working together for the good of the dogs but have to keep hoping. the alternative is extinction
  18. they went rogue in 1990's people are incredibly slow learners spotted a fb post we have until 17th sept to apply to have their powers removed eg this the email address, [email protected] you dont have long to act............ n pray for the miracle the dept actually act eh? i sent this. to - [email protected] Re: the compliance section of the RSPCA (RSPCA Inspectors) be disbanded PLEASE COMPLY withe the recommendations of this man. WHAT HE WROTE IN 2010 IS IN EVEN MORE URGENT NEED OF IMPLEMENTATION. being a Public Prosecutor he saw exactly what best practice used to be. and the unaccountable monsters that they have allowed the RSPCA to become by our lax politicians to have now morphed into.............A MULTIMILLION corporate business, answerable to no one. No longer a 'charity' and both 'charity' and 'royal' status should be cancelled. " The two submission I would like the Honorable Committee to consider are that the compliance section of the RSPCA (RSPCA Inspectors) be disbanded and that all the duties that they try to perform in relation to the investigation and brief preparation for alleged offences under the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979 (the Act), be given to sworn Constables of the NSW Police Force in particular the Rural Crime Unit. My second submission is that all prosecutions under the Act be done by Police Prosecutors in the Local Court jurisdiction." Please! Act now and stop the abuse of power by the rspca Yours Sincerely i include Mr Leon Mills 2010 submission to which I refer. 3rd June 2010 The Honorable Members General Purpose Standing Committee No.5 Inquiry into the R S P C A raid on the Waterways Wildlife Park Dear Members, My full name is Leon Andrew Mills and I have resided in Gunnedah since 1982, I moved to Gunnedah as a result of my applying for the Police Prosecutors position for the Gunnedah Local Court Circuit. I continued in that position until my retirement in 2006. In 2008 I stood in the Local Government elections and was successful in gaining office as a Gunnedah Shire Councillor. I am still in that position today. The two submission I would like the Honorable Committee to consider are that the compliance section of the RSPCA 9RSPCA Inspectors) be disbanded and that all the duties that they try to perform in relation to the investigation and brief preparation for alleged offences under the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1979 (the Act), be given to sworn Constables of the NSW Police Force in particular the Rural Crime Unit. My second submission is that all prosecutions under the Act be done by Police Prosecutors in the Local Court jurisdiction. RSPCA Inspectors obtain their powers s a result of being issued an Authority under .section 4D(2) of the Act. In relation to this Inquiry it is clear that Inspectors Prowse and French have no idea of their powers. I say that on this basis, the Act is clear in relation to what an inspector can do and is set out in Division 2 of the Act. On the Friday following the taking of the Koalas a report was broadcast on the 6.30am local A B C News that Officer Prowse said the reason for taking the Koalas was that they were “stressed”. There is no power under the Act to take an animal that is stressed. It alledging distress, as referred to in Section 24H subsection (5) of the Act, there is no evidence at all that any of these animals were suffering debility, exhaustion or significant physical injury. To support what I am submitting, the Honorable Committee would note that the Officers examined the Koalas at about 10.30-11am. They gave no treatment to these Koalas from that time until after 4.30pm, why? There was nothing wrong with them, and of course we are talking about Officers that would be expected to take immediate action if an animal was suffering debility, exhaustion or significant physical injury. These two Officers had to do something and they illegally removed these Koala for the sole purpose of the T V show R S P C A Animal Rescue. To further support this submission the head of the R S P C A Mr Steve Coleman said no proceedings would be taken against Nancy Small as a result of community outrage. I completely reject this statement. As a former Police Prosecutor of 28 years both in the city and country on rare occasions there is community outrage when some proceedings are taken. I have never before heard of proceedings for a criminal matter being abandoned or not brought because of community outrage. The reason there were no proceedings brought was that there was nothing wrong with these animals. Offences under the act are Criminal. Officers French and Prowse were supposed to be “investigating” this matter. It is interesting to note the quality of this so called investigation. No interview with Nancy Small or any other carers of these Koalas. No exhibits such as, stool samples, feed provided in the Koala enclosure, photos for identifications of each Koala, no tagging for identification. When one looks at the R S P C A Seizure Notice re this matter S N 010 16 the Officers have not even identified the Koalas to the extent of their sex. This so called investigation is absolutely pathetic and shows the quality of how RSPCA inspectors carry out their duties. The N S W police have a branch now called the Rural Crime Unit these branches operated both in the city and country. They are staffed by sworn Police who have been fully trained in investigation techniques. Many of these Officers are fully trained Detectives. It would be my respectful submission that these officers should take over the compliance section of the R S P C A. Of course it would require extra staff and resources. It would be my suggestion that appropriate funding could be transferred from the funding the State Government gives to the R S P C A to the Police Budget. Another benefit of a transfer to Police is that all Police investigations are subject to review by independent authorities such as the Ombudsman or I C A C. This is not the case with R S P C A inspectors, they answer to no one other than themselves. On the 18th of February last I attended the local branch meeting of the R S P C A as the head of the organization Mr Steve Coleman was attending. During the course of the meeting he answered a number of questions re the Waterways incident. Mrs. Dodd asked him a question being, “who can I complain to”, Mr Coleman’s response was “the Chief Inspector of the RS S P C A”. From a community point of view in this day and age it is totally unacceptable that we have an organization such as this that when a complaint comes in they investigate themselves. The subject Koalas were living in a happy well cared for environment when they were illegally removed by Inspectors French and Prowse. One of the females had a baby Koala in her pouch that Mrs Small was aware of. I have been told that the R S P C A Inspectors became aware of this fact over the 48 hours following their removal. One of the other Koalas was an elderly female that Mrs Small has described as the “Old Lady”. Mrs Small has never denied that this Koala was elderly and whilst ever in good health could live out her days in the Koala Enclosure. Both these Koalas that were supposed to being cared for by Inspectors French and Prowse are now dead so I ask this question what investigation has the RSPCA done in relation to the deaths of these Koala or am I correct in assuming that when an animal dies because of the ignorance or lack of care by that inspector no investigation takes place. This is another example as to why the Police should take over these responsibilities so that when this type of incident occurs it can be properly investigated or reviewed by an appropriate authority. I referred earlier in this document to the fact that prior to my retirement I was the police Prosecutor for the Gunnedah Court Circuit. During the 1980’s and 1990’s and in some cases still to this day besides representing Police informants in Court Police prosecutors represent many other entities, for example, Probation and Parole, National Parks and Wildlife, D O C S, Roads and Traffic Authority and the RSPCA. Over the years until about 2000, every so often I would receive a brief from an RSPCA Inspector who would be the informant usually in more than one information. If the matter was a “not guilty” plea I would present the case on behalf of the informant. If the offence or offences were proved some costs would be sought by the Informant that would usually be for witness expenses and any fodder that may have been required to give to the animals in question. No Legal professional costs were ever sought. In addition a fact I feel is relevant is that Police Prosecutors DPP Prosecutors and Crown Prosecutors have a duty to place all the evidence before the Court. Each carries a custodial penalty of 2 years imprisonment. True there is a difference in the monetary penalty but goal is the most severe penalty for a Criminal Offence. A common assault is one where the victim suffers no serious injury. For some reason the Parliament does not view aggravated cruelty as a serious offence at law. The RSPCA since about 2000, to my knowledge, have been engaging private solicitors to conduct their prosecutions and one might ask why did they move to this system. It is my submission that this practice should cease and that Police Prosecutors should conduct the prosecutions for the RSPCA. I say that on this basis. By engaging private Solicitors or barristers there is no obligation on them to place before the Court evidence that may disadvantage their case. Legal and Professional Costs come into play. If their prosecution is successful they would ask for these costs. It seems unbelievable that recently in one of their prosecutions at Narrabri an amount in excess of a quarter of a million dollars was sought for costs in a matter heard in the Local Court, and as I said before, an offence not serious at law. In conclusion it is my humble opinion that inspectors French and Prowse have no knowledge in respect to their obligations under the Act and it is clear they see their careers more in the field of TV and to add insult to injury when asked a question by myself about the TV show RSPCA Animal Rescue and their role in this incident when he attended Gunnedah on the 18th February last, Mr Coleman’s explanation was and I quote, “the Officers had been on another job with them and when they said they were going to Gunnedah the crew said we might just tag along” end quote. I informed him that I did not accept that explanation at all. It’s a sad situation when the head of such an organization is trying to assist the coverup. Yours faithfully Leon Mills Councilor Gunnedah Shire Council '
  19. not yet but PETA n the rspca are working to achieve it. PETA TO SPEED UP THE EXTINCTION of domestic dogs n cats, rspca to increase prices n thus income for their sales of surrendered n taken for resale. the other agenda is yearly fee from all POCTA inspected breeders, aka all to pay for the 'rspa approved' logo. joe public too stupid to see the agenda. it began in 1980's, approaching fruition. this was published 2017, the figures bred are continuing to decrease annually https://ankc.org.au/media/6598/a-forensic-view-of-puppy-breeding-in-australiav4.pdf yet our population looking for a pet increases annually interesting some have inched up, but still not in line with population growth https://ankc.org.au/media/9475/rego-stats-list_2010-2020v2.pdf
  20. MY NIECE PAID $7000 for a cavoodle, its blue merle? no cav i ever heard of carried blue or merle? ditto for poodles where merle is concerned.. worlds gone mad? https://www.windsweptpoodle.com/about-the-merle-poodle.html
  21. PETA began the chant, we have to eliminate backyard breeders and puppy farms. even in 1980's just about none twigged, we all have a backyard so all are thus to be eliminated. as for eliminating puppy farms? to pass the POCTA INSPECTION? blueprint for a puppy farm. IDIOT'S
  22. they say they are 'ethical and responsible' as if its garlic to ward off evil? your all right, its about preventing competition with no thought for the future. as one long time friend commented, its as if now to be an ankc member the first prerequisite is stupidity? where is continuing the legacy of the breeders before you in a dead end breeder?
  23. all the rules, all the guilt, all the 'adopt not shop' all the attacks on anyone who breeds a litter comes from one objective. the extinction of domestic dogs and cats its taken from 1980's to get to this point............... is it too late to wake up you have been manipulated by peta? PETA was chortling last Melbourne cup meeting radio interview they expect their extinction "within this generation" demonising any breeder for imperfection is ignoring the fact NO parent can guarantee their child's health for life, yet are expected to guarentee the liftime health of a pup? stupidity or arrogance? take your pick. life is a lottery always has been always will. we are not printing books, all the same. every conception is a lottery of millions of possibilities you, your spouse, your child, YOUR PET face reality, before its too late DNA profiling has millions as yet unmapped
  24. the ignorance added to the arrogance of too many humans is appalling. the no go zone necessary is only 100 mtrs at most, usually less. love my photo of the plover unsheathing its spur's because tdierixk had wiggled less than another a foot closer to get a good photo and it decided she had crossed the no go line. the immenent threat is palpable, second she moved back they were resheathed n they were content to warn us to come no closer they have rights
  25. marking out a no go zone for the humans and no more attacked. its not as if they are guarding a big area
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