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  1. very true and we all know what happens to a tall poppy in Australia. although I do find a certain irony that we celebrate anzac day with what? the red poppy? What happened to Adrienne is all to common the attitude to anyone who bred a litter, even among the very members of DogsNSW. So quick to explain they either never breed or only one litter. Anyone else who bred more is spoken to and treated the same as Adriene was by that lady in the street, but if you bred more than two litters so will you by your fellow members who feel they are ethical and responsible because they are either dead end kennels because no pup is main registered unless they kept it, or dont breed anyway. I do not blame anyone for not breeding anymore, it is not worth the stress and condemnation earned or not. Never forget the heartbroken friend who had joined her breed club worked her herself to a standstill for the club and what happened? Treated like dirt because the thought police perusing the litter for sale adds, added up she had bred six litters that year? The average litter size was 2 to 3 so still less than one big breed litter anyway? She had 8 bitches for goodness sake, (she had been having so much fun showing them and organising food for the club members at ever show, as well as finding great trophies for the winners) so either leave all but one or two empty annually or face the humiliation she did when accused of being a puppy farmer. That was some 12 years ago and this persecution has simply been escalating from among the membership to spread to the general public ever since. watching the number of puppies registered annually I suspected the ankc was heading into the red, hence the increasing registration fees but I could only suspect what what happening until some one had the foresight to put together the Forensic View of puppy breeding in Australia. There it is for all to see where this is heading, the figures are from 2016 and the downhill trend is not slowing, in a population expanding by the millions finding a pet IS going to be harder and harder despite the pounds being full of unwanted breeds which come from where? well here the figures tell you. https://ankc.org.au/media/6598/a-forensic-view-of-puppy-breeding-in-australiav4.pdf
  2. I am astounded by the anti breeder sentiment on an ankc site, let alone so many other sites for purebred dogs including face plant? people saying they "rescued" their pup they bought, dont even mention it came from an ankc breeder to prevent being made to feel bad because it came from a breeder if they had? How do I know, puppies i bred I have seen their photos posted by their proud new owner, but not game to say other than "this is my darling rescue" That shows how much pressure is being put on people to adopt/rescue now days . Let alone the pressure to never risk breeding a litter in the future. I realised being a breeder was becoming "being a witch" decades ago. anyone who looks back to my comments from 1999 can verify where I saw this was heading. no way did I want to be proven right because this one is leading to the end of ankc dogs and just about every other register. what is it with the human race? the search to find a scapegoat and eliminate it? To register a purebred pup is now 66 dollars for both main and limit. Made the comment I suspect it will be $100 soon to keep the ankc in the black, by the rueful laugh he gave he didn't disagree with me.
  3. no idea if it is true, but told PETA own shares in facebook and demanded the rules
  4. I accidently deleted the page where I saw it and copied if from, now cant remember where it was advertised.
  5. No longer applies to just dogs and cats now it seems. Nearly fell over when I saw this for sale add..........( ooops "Adoption" add ) Name: Snow Breed: Gypsy Vanner Age: 9 years Height: 14h Adoption cost: 4200 AUD Adoption status: Available Description Eye catching Gypsie More woah-than-go attitude, 3 good paces and relaxed on trails, arena and obstacles. Genuine all rounder.Great to C/S/F, good feet, sound horse with clean legs.Snow is what every Horse Lovers Dreams are made of Snow is a Once in a Lifetime Partner! He is ready to meet you at the gate, saddles and bridles quietly. Walk over to the fence or block, climb up, turn around and Snow has already sidepassed up to as if to say, "Slide on, Lets go for a ride! Snow is broke to drive and was an essential part of a carriage business. He drives single or in a team. He’s done weddings, wagon rides in town, and private events! Snow has been used to teach lessons, and has even been started jumping! Snow has been nothing short of wonderful for every task we have asked of him. Whether he’s Driving, riding English or Western. He has exceptionally smooth gaits.
  6. The term "backyard breeder" incorporates EVERYONE who has a backyard? Which is what percentage of Australians who do not live in a high rise, caravan park or a tent? I have never understood why the term was so enthusiastically embraced to define who should be eliminated? the stupidity of the human race continues to amaze me.
  7. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-04-19/qld-dangerous-dogs-owners-could-see-jail-time-if-animal-kills/102243754
  8. yet the ankc can and has opened the register. Remember when it had classification days and accepted classified Australian stumpy tailed cattledogs into the "development register" and ultimately full pedigree of their descendants. so they have proven this can be done. I expect this will become the case down the track for many breeds facing extinction within the register. As the Stumpies proved, there are tens of thousands being bred outside the ankc to replace the gene pool within the ankc. Certainly if the ankc wants to continue to exist.
  9. yes, spot on. It has been interesting to see how the mindset changed from welcome new people, then changed, that to be ethical and responsible become a dead end kennel with all puppies on limit register. As well as the parallel campaign to drive from the membership anyone the self appointed thought police decide is a dreaded puppy farmer/backyard breeder, despite the fact even the thought police have what? A backyard? so the end is now in sight.
  10. you were lucky you asked the right questions. if you dont, the impression given is we will do our best to save. (but not give you the chances. unless you ask first) over the years i have learned to be suspicious of runts, many times it turns out there is a reason and its either kidney or liver malfunction. first thing my vet does is check for both. way before they are considered candidates for a new home. another not often seen, the brain shunt is blocked. can be operated on for a child with this condition but no tubes small enough to save a puppy.
  11. vilifying line breeding, inbreeding as the sole cause the the destruction of so many breeds is completely ignoring the REAL elephant in the room. The bloody show scene where as one so called "top breeder IN THIS COUNTRY" told me to my face. "Hernias are not a disqualification in the ring. NO WAY will i keep a hernia free puppy if its herniated sibling can beat it in the ring. In fact I doubt you will find a hernia free cavalier within 12 years!" That was 20 years ago now. That is the mindset of far too many of the Ethical, Responsible, Show breeder. Wins take precedence over any health issues. Has been ever since showing began. If a flatter face is winning then even flatter faces will be in the ring soon. If bigger heads win, the so be it, even if every litter has to be a caesarean. Generations of Caesarean's. long as the blue ribbons keep coming. The hall mark of the Ethical, Responsible .. BLUE Ribbons and CHALLEGE CERTIFICATES. But hey, dont blame this on the real cause of all these unhealthy herniated, squashed faced, poppy eyed, genetic disaster ridden beauties. blame it on line breeding and inbreeding, even when there is no instance of it in the pedigree. Surely we cant address the real cause can we? the banana backed German shepherd didn't just appear in a flash of light it was morphed although the politically correct words are "improved" you dont maintain a standard anymore. you "improve it" so many fail to realise its not the health or well being that is being improved. Its it ribbon winning chances at any cost. Persian cats had a face once. their faces have been morphed clean off them over the past decades. has it improved their health? no way, now they are as Brachycephalic as so many dog breeds . their tear ducts cant work, who is going to tell me this happened because of line breeding and inbreeding???? who is going to admit it was the race to win a show that has made these animals lives a misery? handed the destruction of all who breed by the AR mob on a platter in the process. Blame it on inbreeding. blame it on line breeding, but never admit the real cause is going to achieve what?
  12. exactly the only people who comply are registered breeders and there are less and less every year the smear attacks are just so bad
  13. exactly. even when they brought in the 5 or was it 6 litter rule I pointed out that in toy breeds this will seriously impact the gene pool especially the one to 2 or at beset 3 pups in a "litter" I had two excellent girls that only ever had one pup per "litter" . Then they brought in the one litter per year? or if bred back to back have to leave empty for 3 seasons???????? these girls are a night mare to leave empty for a year let alone more as they gain so much weight between "litters". then wont go in pup. At the time I pointed out the big litter breeds could have 24 pups in 2 litters. while the toy has 2! I suggested a limit on number of puppies bred instead. gee that got howled down . oddly it was most loud by the big litter breed owners. the whole thing has been a disaster for the dogs. and the register. before the bitches had their puppies while still young and desexed and rehomed by those who rehomed their ex breeding bitches. I remember my vet commenting that whoever drew this up never liaised with dog reproductive vets. He said dogs never evolved to go long periods between litters, that missing so many heats will increase the incidence of pyometra. but all the peta propaganda of photos of starving bitches with lugs half way to the ground with puppies hanging off them was never countered with the thousands of ankc bitches looking a million dollars with their puppies. the ankc went along with the royals, never explain, never complain. well now its crunch time well and truly. finally they have twigged the peta agenda of extinction is nearing its success date. love the "Where have all the dogs gone" Campaign. is it too little too late? only time will tell. judging by the screams of lies, lies and more lies on darling Emma Hursts Fb page and the incredible venomous attacks on anyone sharing both the dogs nsw warnings and how to vote for the just completed election and Hugh Gents letter they sure are rattled. I suspect they assign two people to attack . do wonder how they knew I had shared them as neither attacker is a friend on fb or friend of any of my friends. the most savage was Ludovic Barbier his ignorance of even the basics of what he was carrying on was laughable but the nastiness was pretty overwhelming and certainly created immense fear . after a while i realised that was probably the intend to make me afraid and delete my post. His side kick was some one named Robin Robin so instead I kept asking questions. as he went on and on about what a liar i am, how ignorant of am of the lies lies and more lies Hugh gents letter contains . that I am obviously all about animal exploitation with no care for their rights. just so much coming from him. finally he did say the intention is the elimination of anyone who breeds a litter. I doubt Emma Hurst will be pleased with him. interestingly he hasn't said another word after I told him that Emma will not be pleased with him for letting that cat out of the bag.
  14. which is why I changed to the mini chips the second they were available, half the size
  15. the ONLY information on a normal chip is the number. there is nothing else on it. its an inert until a scanner activates the number. The only time I have had a chip not read when I know its there , is when the battery of the scanner is too low to pick up the number, new battery in the scanner and up comes the number. years ago before I learned that, chipped a pup after checking the chip with the scanner. and when it was now in the pup no number? called the chip supplier who said it must be a faulty chip. put in another and I will replace the faulty chip. put in another and it too wouldnt scan. but finally the scanner beeped low battery. it was scanning the number in the packet but had been too low to scan the chip in the dog. with the skin between? new batteries and the poor pup now had two chips reading fine. there are special ones that cost more that when you scan them give the dogs tempretature but i have never seen them only read abut them I expect they would be pretty expensive and not even they give you the owners name and address. the whole purpose of the chip is to give its number. which then is put into the data bank and tells you the details of the dog entered .
  16. education is way more effective than just legislation written and shelved. look at microchipping. its been law since 1998 yet still 80% of dogs impounded HAVE NO CHIP?????
  17. no such thing as a "blank chip" they all come numbered. things can go haywire though. well remember a puppy chipped and scanned at 6 weeks. headed to new owner interstate and scanned at the airport. chip matched paperwork. Scanned on arrival. chip matched paperwork. some weeks later at the new owners vet for next vaccination. a month after previous vaccination and chip inserted..... no chip to be found? no explanations coming from the puppy either come to think of it, if the scanner battery is low it will not register the chip number, new battery, up came the number
  18. Only taken how many years now for enough people to finally catch on even the ANKC has decided it cant continue the royals solution, never complain, never explain. only a few decades late, but well, better late than never Even Hugh Ghent has put pen to paper or keys to work! Election Information Group Only Four sleeps to go, and pre-polling and postal voting has commenced, we need to spend that time getting the message to the voting public about the consequences of the Animal Justice Party retaining its seat in the Legislative Council. The messaging on 2GB has been loud and clear, the main statement being that the AJP will not let you own a dog, which probably needs explaining to some of the public, this does not literally mean they do not want people to physically have a dog, they just do not want people to own it. Subscribing to the mantra of the worldwide sisterhood of animal rights parties, they think pets are just too important to us for ownership to remain the law, they suggest that this designation degrades the role of animals in our lives to that of slaves and thereby limits their ability to obtain the rights they deserve. They believe that your legal status with respect to your pet should change from “pet owner” to “pet guardian.” Guardianship means that you would be put in charge of your dog’s health and well-being for the rest of its life. Consequently, if the AJP got the law changed, dogs would be regarded like your children and less like your refrigerator, but while it seems a sound principle for those of us who already treat our dogs like children, changing this designation legally can get tricky. In current law, the word usually appears as “guardian of the person” or “guardian of the minor” or a variation on that theme. According to legislative counsel, it would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, for a court of law to interpret current “guardian” laws to apply to animals. The guardian would probably not be able to make medical decisions regarding that animal. Public safety could be jeopardized since guardians would not have the same legal responsibilities regarding managing the actions of aggressive or dangerous animals. Difficulty and lawsuits when a local government tries to enforce its animal control and public health regulations, as currently animals are regarded as property. This is typical of the AJP seeking to impose legislation on us without any thought of collateral damage, this is why they must not be voted for, there are lots of Upper House Candidates from parties who opposed the Emma Hurst Bill in Parliament. 15 Liberals, 17 One Nation, 17 Shooters and Fishers. Supporters of the Bill were AJP, Labor, the Greens, and Fred Nile. There are 21 to be elected, so whatever the party of your choice, DO NOT VOTE ABOVE THE LINE, take your time, and choose at least 15 who are not giving preferences to the Animal Justice Party, make yourself a list to take with you when you vote. Published by Hugh Gent OAM “Gunnislake” Theresa Park 2570
  19. soooo are we going to all sit on our hands and not shere the hell out of the link our very own ANKC has asked every member by email? we are getting in so deep a governement contol of every aspect of our dogs we are at risk of losing being able to have one. https://app4.vision6.com.au/em/message/email/view.php?id=1389800&a=77143&k=V0urX55QsPQEqVDGVhFzkdJecx57WRzFQQgRfH8ygu8
  20. Well Ill be darned. It's not just the dog worlds gone mad after all. The names have been seriously shortened because almost all the comments to it and the poster on faceplant are all solicitors or court personnel, the Magistrate is real and yep its now on the public record. M This made me want to cry a little for everyone involved … Magistrate Clisdell (as quoted in Director of Public Prosecutions v Tiller [2023] NSWSC 187) really just lost it. HIS HONOUR: Gee I wish I could go back and sue all my teachers from primary school. This is a classic case of the insanity that has overtaken society in the 21st century, it started in the 1980's when we advised students that they had rights, and we took away the control and power of, firstly parents then teachers, then the police, and even the courts. So, what do I get in court on a regular basis, I get people from a generation who never experienced discipline at school and never had [a] report saying they'd failed, who never came last in a race, come in here and there studious t-shirt and thongs, and say, ‘What ya want mate?’. Is that how we want our society..(not transcribable)..police are treated with absolute contempt every day of the week every time they're on duty, they're called. ‘White effing C's, they're called black effing C's, they're called everything under the sun. Who would be a schoolteacher, my daughter lasted [a] year as a schoolteacher and gave it away, had a nervous breakdown, who would be a schoolteacher today? [The first respondent] lost her job. It seems we had a fantastic primary school teacher, dedicated, organised, well meaning, and she's sacked. One of my former school mates who I'm still mates with from boarding school nearly 50 years later, was a schoolteacher in primary school, a male, one of those extinct species in primary schools, who was the only male teacher in the school, so whenever there was a discipline problem, he was called in to sort out the class. One day a kid racing across the asphalt slips and falls, he runs over picks up the kid's - comforts it, and has a complaint made that he was sexually assaulting the kid. It never went anywhere but he quit. This is what is happening with our world today. Now let's go to the, let's start with [Ms L]. I have never heard anything as stupid and unbelievable as a teacher ringing a [parent] and saying, ‘I'm picking on your kid’, that did not happen, I don't accept it for a moment. What I do accept that was probably said, was that either, ‘I don't want you to be concerned that I'm picking’, or ‘I'm concerned that I might be seen as picking on him because I'm always having to call him out’. We all know the kid that wants attention in the classroom and the fact that he didn't play up in kindergarten in first class, just means that he got a little bit older and a little bit more bold when he got into second class. I never got into trouble in kindergarten and first class, did get into trouble in second class. The insanity of allowing lunatics to run an asylum has become endemic in our society and the courts cop criticism all the time because we don't stand up for what people see as proper values. One of the problems we've got is 3,000,000 pieces of legislation that control every breathing moment of our lives and whether you walk down the street in the wrong direction, or that you don't use your indicator in your car as you leave a roundabout, whether you cough inappropriately, whether you pick your nose in public, the whole world has gone completely and totally insane and it frustrates the hell out of me that I sit here and I have people as I did today, that I could not give bail to because there are not facilities to look after someone who's schizophrenic and is a kleptomaniac, that is he just goes and helps himself to other people's property. Not because he wants to do it, but he's compelled to do it and the only way I can protect - eventually members of the public, and commercial enterprises, is by refusing him bail. So, I've locked up a person today who is mentally unwell, now I'm asked to convict a teacher of assaulting an eight-year-old juvenile delinquent, which is the way he was behaving, and his mother gives me no thought that she was anything other..(not transcribable)..to him as well. His interview was impressive for the fact that he gave every buzz word available, scared, terrified. I can remember going into classrooms where I wasn't very happy about facing the teacher involved, where it made me keep my head down. You needed to keep your head down cause one of those teachers used to chuck the blackboard duster at you, and I'm glad from that sort of teacher's behaviour but to equate what [the first respondent] did in this situation, with it being an assault is a big ask. Technically laying hands on someone is an assault. What do we have here we have a child who has behavioural problems in the classroom, a child who was a constant nuisance and we know he's a constant nuisance cause even his school friends were saying, ‘Ooh, you got rid of [the first respondent]’, they weren't very happy with him either? He is being an idiot, but potentially a dangerous idiot because the kids are down on their hands and knees picking up block[s] and things from the floor of the classroom and he's standing with a pile of blocks in his hand, at his groin, 15 centimetres away from the face of another student on the ground. Let's assume for a minute that [the first respondent] played the Sergeant Schultz, what if that child on the ground had lost an eye who would have been responsible, guess what, it would have been [the first respondent]. She'd have been the one responsible for what happened because she didn't properly control her classroom. Just last week we have the newspapers reporting that there is thousands - not hundreds, thousands of teachers leaving the New South Wales teaching profession because of violence in the classroom and we're only talking here about primary school, we're not talking about the knives and guns that come in the class in secondary school, we're talking about eight-, nine- and ten-year old's assaulting teachers who are not allowed to do anything in response. Now, either we wake up as a society and start putting the adults back in charge, rather than the juveniles or our society will go the way of the roman empire, it will collapse. If you haven't read Edward Gibbons ‘Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire’, then I recommend that you try to find a copy in a library somewhere. It's been out of print for about 80 years, but it details - when I was a history student, which is why I'm saying this - … but it details why the roman empire collapsed. And guess what, western society is following it chapter and verse 2000 years later, 1600 probably, but close enough. So, I don't accept that [the first respondent] rang [Ms L] and said, ‘I'm picking on your son’, and I don't accept that she had any other alternative other than to instinctively act to protect a child in the circumstances in which she did, and I accept that a slap to the shoulder is hardly what one would call inappropriate and unreasonable force. If she'd slapped him on the head she would have been in big trouble, but she didn't. If she'd grabbed him by the wrist or something and pulled him that would have been acceptable as well, she honestly said, ‘I acted instinctively’, she self-reported and the end result is that the education department has removed her from her role as a teacher. Shame on the education department because they are setting a ‘bar’ which is impossible to meet and if they end up with no teachers it'll be their own fault. THE MATTER IS DISMISSED, NOT GUILTY. THE AVO IS DISMISSED.” 10 comments Comments Most relevant  Rob This rant from a judicial officer ? Sounds like he got to the right result, but where is the legal reasoning? Like Reply 20 h Dar Some rant Like Reply 20 h Dar Parents HAVE TO parent!! Not rocket science Like Reply 20 h Jay I do like HH. Like Reply 20 h M A rather good magistrate 4 Like Reply 20 h Dar M agreed 2 Like Reply 19 h Le If this is now on public record, is it OK if I copy and paste it? My teacher friends would like to read this magistrate's words.. Like Reply 19 h M Le, yes. Public record Like Reply 19 h Jil Sounds like a good bloke. Like Reply 18 h Wa Sharing Like
  21. thanks for your comments. Sadly this has been the norm for decades now and nothing to do with DOL. the entire atmosphere of the ankc has gone downhill since the 80's and the extorting to "eliminate" the unworthy "from the membership" Be the accusation, they dont show enough, bred too many puppies that year, bribed the judge, slept to get their ribbon, u name it, I've heard it............. it has been an ongoing and constant problem ever since ankc membership began. At least it was only the backstabbing when you won before that started. I used to show horses before I showed my dogs and you really do need to learn to pick out the knives in your back once you get home in all sports. So for me at least it did not come as a surprise. The human race is very strange and yet people try to make out only our pets are nice. Well they certainly forget there are more nice people than nasty. Its just that you notice the nasty more because of the pain they inflict when in fact they ARE the minority. as for our pets, some dogs are just as savage as the backstabbing humans, its just that they use their teeth in stead. Again the opposite seems to be true, everyone forgets the one that bit you even existed because almost without fail the owner is held to have "MADE" it so. sorry folks some are born nasty, you cant always blame its human. So its not DOL's fault so many have gone haring off the faceplant, why? eludes me it sure can get nasty there too . Hope this place continues until the nice people rediscover it. Along with all those amazing and educational archives face plant can never deliver have a great day everyone.
  22. I began this on the Breeders forum. so long ago but beginning to wonder if anyone is left there anymore? not one single fellow breeder has shared photos even though it was began August 2, 2022? Just asked the breeders of the currently 1,433 litters listed Australia wide to chip in to spread the ANKC's message. Have any of you here seen it? https://app4.vision6.com.au/em/message/email/view.php?id=1389800&a=77143&k=V0urX55QsPQEqVDGVhFzkdJecx57WRzFQQgRfH8ygu8 This is an incredibly important message that needs to be spread far and wide as it is relevant to every state election pending. Just asked those 1,433 members to help spread the word, SO sad that although Dogzonline IS! well was, an awesome ANKC forum so few are here anymore? WHERE ARE THEY? THEY ARE CERTAINLY using the puppies for sale section. WHY not the forums?
  23. Just about choked at their "We are an underfunded charity " obviously hasn't read about the billions invested in the annual returns then?
  24. The campaign to rescue never buy a purebred from a breeder is even going up on face plant breed forums. saw a post saying no one should breed a litter this year until there are no dogs left waiting rescue at shelters should become mandatory, or to that effect. meanwhile take a look at what is available at that shelter! I for one would not want any but the breed of my choice. with darned good reason I might add. https://www.rspcasa.org.au/adopt-a-pet/?search=1&type[]=98
  25. morning all. anyone here? thought I will post a pick of my last litter and mum. such a dead forum these days and soon so will the dog world once AJP has succeeded in shoving their latest legislation though. just put an add for my puppies and decided to put it on gumtree as well along with the link from Dogs NSW asking us! the almost dead to help save our dogs and along with it purebred dogs and the ANKC. so here is my starving exploited mummy dog and her pups and the link I put along with it on GUMTREE! https://app4.vision6.com.au/em/message/email/view.php?id=1389800&a=77143&k=V0urX55QsPQEqVDGVhFzkdJecx57WRzFQQgRfH8ygu8 SOOO! I LOOKED UP HOW MANY LITTERS ARE HERE TODAY Advertised on DOGZONLINE 1,433 litters HOW ABOUT IT FOLKS? . IF EVERYONE of you also advertised your litter with a link to your advertisement on Gumtree, or anywhere else you advertise besides Dogzonline and include the same link to our ANKC'S request to share their link to all family and friends. Think how many millions of Australians will get to learn what is really going on with the animal rights nutters? Its a tiny extra cost compared to the cost of raising your darling puppies and the added bonus is you can not only add ten photos of your puppies and parents to the six you have on Dogzonline as well. YES, the majority of you are not NSW residents, BUT perhaps you may have noticed every single state of this nation has is now being poisoned by the animal rights nutters who have made it their business to run for election and destroy you? Isn't it about time the pet owners woke up and ran their own representatives? OR AT THE VERY LEAST, ensure no AR nutter's get elected and let loose in any parliament surely? You will have made a concrete contribution to stopping in their tracks the ever increasing pressure of such oppressive legislation aimed NOT at ending puppy farms but ending the existence of purebred dogs which is the real PETA objective. Has been since the 1980's, from the first day I sat and heard Betty Stepkovitch and Nancy Gate parroting what they had been told. "we have to eliminate puppy farmers and backyard breeders". I asked them then, "look out your back door, what do you see? Your campaigning to eliminate yourself!" They didn't under stand then and sadly just about all the members then and today still don't get that they are ALL THE TARGET! YES! Trying to warn fellow members has made me a target instead. But gee how stupid are they who refuse to learn the truth? Surely 40 years is long enough by now to see I was right all those years ago. How did I know? I am not exactly sure, but perhaps because as a child I was constantly told how my grandfather's family became Black Irish, after they fled Spain during the inquisition, when thousands died for no greater reason than some one could send you to your death by accusing of being a heretic with no more proof than the accusation. Sound familiar? History sure does repeat after all. The witches of Salem learned the same the hard way. But, now it is our pets facing extinction. The human race seems to have a real weakness for wanting to be part of a hunt? Well folks, hugging your self tight with your "responsible, ethical", blanket hasn't seems to work for the past 40 years. Will you stop being part of the problem, dobbing in anyone you dont like or think offended your sensibilities for not walking to your drum and actually ALL WORK TOGETHER FOR A CHANGE? the clocks ticked down so far now the PETA mob have even gone public they "expect the domestic dog and cat will be extinct within this generation" All AUSSIES do like to fight for the underdog, well folks your so the underdog at this point its fight or lose your pets. Believe it or NOT! It's interesting the half witted politicians of the other parties aiding and abetting them in return to get them to vote for whatever it is they want passed for their party, either have not twigged what the end results are going to be or simply don't care long as they get what they want. Politics certainly has become incredibly dirty, so much control of our lives has been taken, wonder if the people of Germany noticed before it was too late too? So anyone here willing to stand and be counted? or we face another 40 years with heads in the sand????? It is perhaps a very unknown fact to you all, but even longer than 40 years ago it was recognised how important our pets are to the health and well being of the people who have pets, along with the health and well being our our pets very existence. Live longer, mental health benefits as well, were documented already. But do the pollies care? Doesn't look like it. Well Troy we better be praying the members have an epiphany before the time has passed the no return mark. a moment of sudden and great revelation or realization. "a few years ago, I had an epiphany" n n n n n night all, folk's
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