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  1. Oh comeon....so people who kill their own meat are simply doing it from the goodness of their own heart? Nonsense. IT is purely for selfish reasons and none other than.... Some pretty broad assumptions there considering you claim you would not associate with " people like us" how would you know? So it's ok to put an animal out of it's misery but another to provide for your family? Not everyone has a male to do these things for them, some through loss,some by choice, some not. Actually don't worry about answering I have no wish to encourage your input in this thread. I think I'll put you on ignore, you are not the type of person I choose to associate with. I have always loved ferrets and am finding this thread very informative and really very interesting. I would really love to see them work. n PLAY, ferrets sure know how to play. always remembered that guy who said otters believe in making every drop of water work. ferrets came from the same school, u aint seen nuffin till you turn a couple of ferrets loose in your home.... YAY :laugh: OR IF your into damage minimisation..... well we would put em into a huge feed bin with lengths of pipe, bags, boxes, HA a vacum cleaner hose is sooooo popular or the air conditoning ducting from a car or truck... n let em rip. loose in sheds can be a problem. pronging across cage tops can be deletrious to a ferrets health if they come to the end n theres a significant drop to the floor n it happens to be concrete? trust me, most of em have NO sense of danger, n it aint worth finding out the hard way. setting a broken ferret leg is no laughing matter.
  2. Lucky! None of my intact lads have ever tolerated one another but none have them have been related, either. I imagine that raising them together would help considerably. dont know about that. i had one of the gentlest affectionate ferrets and her babies??? remember that game you try to pick up the monkeys so u end with a sting of em? she had 7 babies. by the time they were a month old. pick up one n london to a brick a littermate would latch onto it , another onto it and so on as u lifted so could end up with all 7 dangling. mad as hatters all 7 of em, bite like they intended eating u. yet mum n dad wouldnt bite anyone..l weird to say the lest. thought they would tone down as they grew.. no such luck. faught like the kats n jammer kids, so sold all but one to a rabbiter n he said he said they were wonderful. the one i kept she would eat my fingers for breakfast if she was in the mood. often wondered if they were a throw back to their dads mum, she was so savage his breeder had to throw a bag over her before he could touch anything in her cage. as for her hed throw the bag over her, wrap her quick n into the carry cage bag n all.. lol watching him get her son out without getting bitten was fun... n left wondering gee will he be as savage as his mum , but nope he was more like a kitten than a ferret maybe? loved watching him sprong all over the place when he was full of himself. nothing madder than a ferret playing is there.. umm n never let em get under the fridge.... sounded like they were dismantling it. n nothing more fascinating than a trouser leg is there.....
  3. n met an awful lot of others over the years,, fantastic dogs greyhounds
  4. Actually I know many greyhound trainers. None of whom blood their dogs, even my crazy old uncle. I work with greyhound people. I teach greyhound people's children. I'm related to greyhound people. The exception in my experience would be those doing the wrong thing and I have never met one. Don't know about blowing things out of proportion, but you seem to be doing a good job of blowing a lot of stuff out an orifice. who gets the idea mozelle hasnt met too many good ones? i havent met any bad ones. daugher in law's brother had greyhounds n his stay with the family even the winners arnt automatically bred from either, which i thought he would. amazing family dogs greyhounds... honey has converted so many people to wanting the ultimate lounge lizard. lol she was one weird dog on the track, she won races even when the hare stopped. because unlike most greyhounds she knew it was a race, n would go hammer n tongs to be in front, n yep even finished ahead of the hare once when it slowed down, think that race was cancelled because theother dogs stopped running? she didnt, not sure, everyone telling me about it were laughing so much, trouble was she pushed herself too hard, even if it meant she collapsed with exhaustion at the end of the race. had to be retired because she raced so hard to win,
  5. Me too. Good for those moments when you're just bored. I'd still like to see an abbatoir first hand. I've done the grow and kill your own. Cept I'm a wuss and got someone who knows what they are doing to do it quick. Took me awhile to overcome the fact that I was eating an animal I had cared for...and named. I'm fascinated with the whole ferreting thing. And not unaware that when someone posted about letting their dog kill a rat, that I recomended not to. But that was less about that actual killing bit, and more to do with my worry about whether or not the dog was gonna be quick enough and not end up injured itself. know what u mean. my yeti (rag doll cat) faced up to a mouse.. got bitten on the nose. was she ticked off...sulked for weeks as for the grow n kill... anyone destined for the freezer was named......... ? freezer. far better even kid could cope with that although we didnt do the deed, took em to wilbeforce. chicken.. yep
  6. hope your right on that one. come to think of it. no headlines last month. "MANIAC MOTORIST BLOCKS TRAFFIC ON VICTORIA PASS to allow echidna safe passage across 4 lanes of highway." was there. n it did happen.... ummmm do u really need to know who decided they would rather risk have their car mashed than let little spiney one get hit? ho well theres one new zealander who is till getting over seeing a real LIVE echidna jog across all that asphalt n make it in one piece still cant believe anyone could find it in them to hurt these amazing little critters
  7. I was lucky enough to see the present research up to now, and the results for brain tumurs is simply amazing
  8. im a bit stumped the paper is unaware EnGenic have been MRI scanning brain cancers in dogs for the last two years? ok they are in sydney though.
  9. this company has discovered nano cell delivery of chemotherapy and has dogs still alive two years after being diagnosed beyond saving with brain tumors. last MRI scans have shown the tumors have completly dissapperred non surgicly. the vets who are caring for these dogs are not far away so if you have a dog with cancer id be looking them up it is now being trialed on human patients.. this is ground breaking cancer research , it available to people who have been diagnosed beyond help. pity its so late before they can apply at this stage http://www.engeneic.com/
  10. Im guessing because they are present You make some very broad assumptions about people. Honestly if you were that against animal cruelty you would not buy supermarket meat, eggs from a supermarket or indeed eat meat or animal produce of any kind nor wear or own anything made of leather or animals by products. My freezer is full of home killed meat, i find it incredibly sad when i take the animal to be humanely killed and butchered however i know its had a great life living in its natural environment and the end is swift and humane. Compare that to the ongoing and extended torture of commercially farmed animals and i know which life id choose if i were an animal destined for the kill. By your logic its fine so long as you dont have to witness it and can pick it up in a nicely wrapped package innocent of the suffering it has incurred .... oh and as long as a woman was not involved? Does your logic then extend to women who work in abattoirs? In this town, i know of several single mums who work in the abattoir, living in a rural area yourself you would know how limited employment opportunities can be, should they quit their jobs and loose their only form of income because its not womens work? So in your rural area what happens if one day you hit some form of wildlife? Will you leave it to die in agony or would you put it out of its misery? yes all good points. i know, there is an amazing difference in the meat of an animal that never saw a saleyard n then onto the slaugher house. there has to be a reason for that. from paddock to kill is the best way i think, fraction of the stress. in the paddock n never knew what hit it , even better.
  11. I do have a large network of friends, lanabanana.....they don't all share my opinion on all things and I wouldn't expect that to be the case. I have two "pet" hates and one is animal cruelty.....I know we could discuss this till the "cows" come home but the fact remains that I cannot get my head around women who hunt, it simply does not agree with me. Yes, I did end a friendship based on the fact that she ended up chopping her pet duck's necks.....there was no indication that she was that way inclined and made out like she wouldn't hurt a fly, little did I know. That was just the straw that broke the camel's back, there were other issues pertaining to the way she kept her animals and lack of responsibility towards them, not desexing them.....allowing them to breed indiscriminately, not able to contain them, etc etc etc. I had a chuckle at your last comment, . I am certainly not advocating that a woman be seen and not heard, far from it as I can be very opinionated (as you may have already gathered, lol).....oh, and women have just as much right to swear as any man, lol.....when necessary, lol. My issue is.....how can one be certain that animals killed in their backyard are killed humanely? surely there are individuals out there that have no idea on how to conduct such an act as painlessly as is possible???? a memory that forever sticks in my mind was uncle brought home some chooks for christmas dinner. n had the hide to expect my mum to do the deed? she flatly refused. his brothers flatly refused.. so he either had too or they stayed, n being all roosters. that wasnt a potentially great idea. so he bit the bullet. tied up ones legs. laid him on the chopping block they used for splitting the firewood and went wham. lopped the head off completly in on stroke. only problem was hadnt tied the legs too well. chookie gave kick. string fell off and up jumped chooki,,, ran madly (remember he was headless) straight at, and after (yep uncle was running for his life by now) down the drive and out of sight before it finally dropped ... donk dead... gather uncle had nightmares for weeks. the rest dissappeared, i suspect back to the seller
  12. was the words u needed "politicaly correct" yes i had the same thought, poor moselle's ex friend couldnt have an opinion of her own. wonder what moselle would think if her friend had decided to drop her like a hot potato because she didnt have "pet" lunch ingredients? thats what worries me about the peta brigade, not content to have their own opinon and leave it at that. want to force their beliefs down others throats even to the extent of pushing it to become law? dont have to look far to the the rammifications of misplaced legislation, the greenies got it so that rural fire brigades couldnt do backburns for decades and hundreds of lives lost as a result. n thats without counting the tens of thousands of wildlife lives n homes gone to dust. cold burns dont do that. yes our animals and plants evolved to cope with fire, but cold fires not the holocausts they now face instead.
  13. Want to come to WA??? We have plague proportion rabbits at our place atm :D Big fat ones too ;) Am about to move horses to a new paddock but will have to spend a couple of hours walking it find and fill in bunny holes first! Did someone say big fat rabbits? lol a totally adorable... see i saw those whiskers twitching.... i did
  14. God forbid we should actually cause the deaths of the animals we eat. Perhaps if more folk killed their own, there'd by less abuse of animals in intensive farming situations. The more people connnect with the animals they farm, the less likely they are to abuse them IMO. Last century thousands of suburban Australian mums kept and killed chooks for the table. Frankly I fail to see the issue with it. LOL poor mozelle wouldnt cope with our back neighbour. every few weeks there would be a row of chooks feet slipped between the palings of our common fence. first time i spotted them was wondering? what the? that is till i looked over the fence. all hanging neatly. throats cut n waiting to be plucked n gutted... nice. never done one myself, i makes pets of em, n anyway hubby may love eggs, but chooks???? theys foul food u know...
  15. yes is such a wonderful relief. dont even know em and worried sick about em hey im up to episode 13 ??? what does that say
  16. well ive been trying to stop worrying by watching all creatures great n small on utube. heres the link if anyones interested. found it on another forum but yay its a hoot of a series isnt it. apparently this first episode was made in 1978 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIrGKbHw6Rc enjoy
  17. exactly, one poor woman in lithgow's vet operated on her 10 months old cavi girl and told her to send me the bill. my vet hit the roof. but what can u do once they have carved up a perfectly healthy pup before even bothering to tell u his verdict is "any vet who prescribes such an op on such a young pup has payments due on their car" come to think of it when he worked out the date of the op and the birth date of the pup she was barely 9 months old other fortunatley rang me first, n after being examined again by my vet left a much relieved camper
  18. Skruffy,what is this you are talking about......mouse rat catches?? Is so we want to know It is D day today,so thinking the worse ...hoping for the best hey these bizzos --- i hope that link works! pretty cheap [if it really does work] but i can't find a manufacturer's website so i can do some deep research --- if you locate the one depicted centrally in your home, it apparently vibrates the buggars out and away from your home i am sooooo hoping that julz is enjoying some happy news... isnt that how the so called snake repellers work?? i remember when these first came out n asking, what about our pet rats to be told. dont worry it wont affect pets.. like what the hows a pet rat supposed to know the difference?
  19. Imagine how the poor owner is feeling, feeling like she has made poor decisions etc. Poor woman, I bet she is beside herself. exactly and this vet is doing her no favors.... so worry for her and them
  20. Nope, I'd say the best protection you've got is a very clear understanding with the buyer that a "show quality pup" is a prospect, not a certainty. That and making no assumptions that previous experience in the show ring guarantees a decent buyer. well it was exactly a supposedly "clear" understanding. that is until the "gallery " at the shows told her, main register is a guarantee of being good enough to make Champion. even those who had examined the puppys at the time of selection and were witness to her being told not only by me but the ones who examined the puppies that no guarantees could be made as to how an 8 week puppy would mature, she also said in front of witnesses, she "had shown for years and knew how much a puppy can change," that she "wanted it as a pet first, and also just wanted the fun of showing again" yet these same people told me for my own reputation to take the dog back. if that isnt backing up the "gallery" opinion that MR now means money back guarantee an 8 week can mature to make 100 challenge points, then what is? seems like just another minefield gathering to me anyway. considering i now supplied a dog so crap i had to take it back, dont see how it saved any so called "reputation" ummm well except now have a reputation for selling a crap dog on MR? at least the great news is, now much loved n adored in its new home.
  21. ummm another question? do you mean what i said. or the other poster who said that one hundred people had signed a petition? I know when i read that weird letter i received from dogs nsw and began phoning around to ask what on earth is this about and from the replies i had already been told, before i spotted this thread on dogzonline, that the whole thing had been started by just one person, and thats all it takes to have started this in motion, how weird? then read that??? like what the? not what ive been told and not just from one source either.
  22. your problem being, if you do not vote then by obstaining you are by default letting the one who started this one less to prevent them gaining their aim soooo difficult decision is it not
  23. ummmm poor chap me turning up and saying anything is probably the kiss of death for him. apologies if ive done him a major disservice feel a bit like a pirah (yep no idea how to spell it)
  24. ummmmm n do i suspect now the rsca have been called , the "where there's smoke there's fire" is now being spread????????????????????????? n why should that be? well make anyone thinking of standing up for him to have second thoughts. fraid to be seen to have anything to do with anyone with smoke near em in case it sticks to them? sort of shave the hunted off from the herd so its isolated n easier to attack? or am i just of the suspicious kind? surely not ;) come to think of it wasnt i not that long ago described as "raving" when trying to warn about the rspca, n yes suspect being branded as raving was calculated to influence anyone into ignoring what i said. once burnt your a "raving luni" if you try to warn the other chickens n it is interesting to note now many once "friends" cant see u anymore....now your scent has been changed by exposure to "smoke" ;)
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