EddyAnne

G'day, Eddy here. I have an idea of what they are doing, using technology that is SNP based and uses over 130 SNPs to detect the breeds and mixtures of these breeds, and if they are on schedule then currently now they can detect 95 breeds and mixtures of these breeds. That appears to be happening here in Australia with Genetic Technologies, and then this company started working with the US DNA company MetaMorphix in relation to such testings where I thought they maybe also looking for SNP variances within the same breeds, sort of like testing APBTs here and APBTs over there where variances could provide information. There were previous studies such as by Koskinen MT - 2003 and PARKER et al.- 2004, but DNA wise things have rapidly progressed this even within the past few years where I'm interested in what is happening now as it appears they are beta testing and in the pre-commercialisation stage.

G'day, Eddy here. A month ago there was a forum topic regarding DNA testing which you might like to read through and maybe add a post or two. As the topic progresses it's revealed that Genetic Technologies and MetaMorphix seem to be in a pre-commercial phase in regards to genetic testing to allow verification of breeds but also to a non-pedigree dog, also know as a bitsa, verifying the mixture of that breed to better assess the suitability of the dog, plus they also mentioned through this research it may soon be possible to offer a genetic test which identifies a dog’s temperament, and also was mentioned "Identifying the "mixture" allows people to assess the temperament of the dog and understand the potential behavioural characteristics," said George Sofronidis, Manager of Animal Diagnostics at GTG. Anyway the start of that topic is via this link address:- http://forums.dogzonline.com.au/index.php?showtopic=81748

I think so too... As I posted on the other page, "maybe some who have curly coated pure breeds might like to respond if the curly coat look makes their dogs appear unkept." And as I also posted, "Every dog that has a coat requires appropriate coat care, oodles are no exception neither are pure breeds, and it's up to the owners to provide it either themselves or by referring their dogs to a suitable groomer."

Many thanks Tassie

G'day, Eddy here. Thanks Ness and I've been away from the scene for quite some years, maybe I just might pop onto OzObedienceTrialling later to see those files. By the way, years ago I talked Ron Lawrence into starting OzObedienceTrialling, but then he and I retired from the scene years ago where others carried on, seems to be the way things go. Anyway I'm interested in what's occuring lately and who knows just maybe one day my wife and I just might decide to return to the trialling scene particularly in VIC where I reside, but then we are older with our disabilities but then the urge is still there where just maybe one day we just might return for we enjoyed the "family affair" where all of our family loved doing something enjoyable together.

G'day, Eddy here. Why don't you try using another clicker. Dogs that are scared, nervous or shy to the clicking noise then consider alternatives that could be used as event markers and used exactly the same as a clicker, say like using other sound that "nice" to your dog like a particular sound your voice could make, and some alternatively use electronic clickers where the tone and volume can be adjusted to suite the dog, and alternatively for deaf dogs they use remote controled vibrating pads which are used exactly the same as a clicker and which could also be suitable for dogs that are not deaf and which just might also address the situation where some dogs are scared of sounds. Sorry but I don't have time to help, but try doing a search on the internet where I'm sure there is some information on what I've just mentioned including where you can obtain them from.

G'day, Eddy here. Sounds like the Encouragement Class in Victoria that's been going for years, basically novice minus the "Heel Free" and "Recall". Can anyone post the details of the CCD exercises that's coming in (1 July 2006). A while back I heard there was some delay in regards to the "new rules and new classes", maybe someone can give us some updated details and I'm particularly interested in the addition of the UDX class and the exercises. About time I bought a new rule book, is the new one available yet with all the latest changes and new classes.

G'day, Eddy here. Peri I have a suggestion, all of our Cavaliers did heaps better off-lead than on-lead, being small dogs they really didn't like loose leads flaping around near their face particularly on windy days. My advice is to do minimal practice as you can on-lead with just enough to pass the novice on-lead part but focus on doing more off-lead as this will help in addressing the lagging during on-lead whilst still increasing their off-lead ability, and keep in mind that once past novice everything is done off-lead where I think your aim might be for the long term. Edited in as I hit post too soon and forgot to type the lead part. My wife and I when in novice used thin show leads with very small clips with light buckle leather collars, and the light lead with small clips can be obtained at dog shows via the van that sells dog things at shows, as some who do show use these leads with very thin and light "snake chains" for showing purposes.

G'day, Eddy here. Ange, I think that maybe your Cavalier Lulu has trained you quite well.

G'day, Eddy here. Training clubs in my area allow pups to start after they have completed their vaccinations, this can differ from the pups age of 12 weeks or 16 weeks old and this depending on what vaccinations the veterinarian uses. By the way, at 6 months of age a dog can enter official Obedience trials, and if passes the requirements can obtain a Companion Dog title this even at 6 months of age.

G'day, Eddy here. Yep I know, Jessica Smith won Best Junior Handler, and who is the daughter of Sue Smith with Paije (Marcavan Miss Federation) who got that 195 in UD winning the ring plus winning the Highest Score In Trial. By the way they live up the road from Anne and me and pop in for a cuppa now and then.

G'day, Eddy here. Great to see a Cavalier "lap doggie" do exceptionally well, S Smith & Marcavan Miss Federation UD - CKCS, see Utility 3 ring with 195pts and also HSIT, and here are all the other Obedience doggies who did really great at the VCA State Obedience Trial at this address:- http://www.geocities.com/vicobedience/trialresults.htm

G'day, Eddy here. Yes a sigh of relief in that it's just back pain that just needs some rest, strange the first vet couldn't manipulate down the back and detect back pain and if this is the case then maybe you'll be off giving that first vet a miss in the future. But then who knows if the problem doesn't clear up with rest, time and maybe even with medication, then if this is the case the maybe you might have to investigate further maybe even with an x-ray, as hip problems are known to cause back problems. I've also heard that hip problems even like osteochondrosis dissecans can even cause muscular straining back problems as the doggie tends to guard themselves during certain hip movements, but then maybe poodlefan might like to let us know if there is any probability of that with mini and toy poodles in australia.

G'day, Eddy here. Over the years I have been to many training clubs across Victoria and some in NSW, where I talked to some pet owners with minis and toys who had HD. As I mentioned, as to what the figures are in Australia well I feel your guess might be just as good as my guess but then maybe not if you know what the Breed Score Average is in Australia and how many Poodles here have been tested and scored.

G'day, Eddy here. The Orthopaedic Foundation of America (OFA) and American Kennel Club (AKC) lists Standard Poodles, Miniature Poodles and Toy Poodles as the same breed but in different size groups. As to Poodles, the OFA lists 15,245 Hip Test Results on their website, it seems that some breeders in America are routinely testing and maybe this also in the Miniature and Toy size groups. Of the 15,245 tested 12.7% had Hip Dysplasia to varying degrees and as to what the figures are in Australia well I feel your guess might be just as good as my guess but then maybe not if you know what the Breed Score Average is in Australia and how many Poodles here have been tested and scored, anyway see the OFA figures at this address:- http://www.offa.org/hipstatbreed.html

G'day, Eddy here. I'll chip-in and add this to the topic. If the veterinarian after examination suggested an x-ray was necessary then they may have their reasons for doing so. If you take the dog to a veterinary chiropractor then maybe they too might suggest an x-ray maybe needed. X-rays are a diagnostic tool that is commonly used to examine bones and joints for injuries or other problems, and where this maybe needed for proper examination and evaluation in some diagnosing circumstances. As to Shih-Tzu and Hip Dysplasia, well I really do know what the situation is within the breed so anything I would say would be just my personal opinion and really a guess. The only thing that I can find on the internet is this American website which lists Hip Dysplasia Statistics for 137 breeds, and which mentions Shih-Tzu where 553 were x-ray tested and 19.2% had Hip Dysplasia to varying degrees, see rank 34 as to breeds at this address, and if you look on the site you'll find some patella stats:- http://www.offa.org/hipstatbreed.html As to health testing in Australia, well my opinion is that many breeders do NOT want to health test for various reasons, and where one reason maybe cost and another the need to subject dogs to x-rays, there are other reasons and one maybe that health test information can be used against breeders if particular health issues are known to be problems in their lines or in the breed in general, this was mentioned some years back, a section from the AVA/ANKC Wood reports:- (e) Legal liability Breeders should be aware that where hip dysplasia is known to be a problem in their breed, breeding from untested animals or those with scores higher than breed average could place them in a difficult legal position if they produce a puppy which develops serious hip dysplasia. Breeding from parents which both have low scores minimises the risk and provides a potential defence against litigation if a defective puppy is produced. Due to the volume of Hip Dysplasia in dogs around the world, and to whoever finds a DNA test for Hip Dysplasia they certainly could make a lot of money from such a test, and due to this several DNA research facilities are currently trying to locate the genes involved so that they can develop a DNA screening test. As to legal liability if such a test is available, this was mentioned by the ANKC:- Does ANKC’s DNA program alter the legal liability between breeder and puppy purchaser? Legally any product sold must be suitable for the purpose for which it is purchased. Accordingly the courts recognise this in the sale of puppies, and if a puppy develops an hereditary disease then the breeder is held responsible. The only probable defence is to show all reasonable efforts have been made to avoid hereditary diseases. If there is a recognised test of an hereditary disease and a breeder does not use the test but sells a puppy which late develops that disease, then it is hard to see how the breeder has a legal defence. This is especially so where a DNA test is involved. Provided at least one parent is genetically clear for the disease, the breeder can ensure that the offspring will, not develop the disease, which eliminates the legal liability for that disease. As to what can happen right now in regards to a rare hereditary disease, here is an interesting news article at this address and also I've added a link to the court case transcript at the very bottom:- http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/puppy-...1455936734.html The Sydney Morning Herald 17 July 2005 Puppy was 'faulty goods' By Daniel Dasey, consumer reporter When is a puppy not a puppy? When it's a faulty product, the state's top consumer arbitrator has ruled. In a case involving a sick border collie puppy that died from a rare genetic disease, the Consumer Tenancy and Trader Tribunal ruled the dog's breeder had the same obligation to replace and cover costs as any other retailer. Dubbing the dog "goods", the tribunal found the illness constituted a "defect" that hindered the buyers' intended purpose. The purchasers of the pup, Abbey, last week welcomed the decision, which also awarded them a refund of almost $3000. But the case has ignited a storm of controversy among breeders. The case was determined in June and the judgement published last week. In evidence before the tribunal, Beecroft IT workers Graham and Belinda Dodge said they bought the $700 pup as a family pet from breeder Margaret Rockey in February 2004. Within three days of the purchase the animal fell ill and, after a series of treatments at a local vet, it was transferred for treatment to a specialist centre. The puppy was diagnosed with trapped neutrophil syndrome, a rare and incurable immune condition that leads to multiple infections. Towards the end of February last year, Ms Rockey requested the pup be returned to her for care, but the Dodges declined. Abbey was put down on veterinary advice in March 2004. The Dodges sought a refund for the pup and a reimbursement of their veterinarian costs of $4680. In her submission to the tribunal, Ms Rockey produced evidence that she was a breeder of good character and that the pup's condition had never been seen in NSW. The tribunal ruled the Dodges were entitled to a refund and have some of their veterinary costs refunded. "The puppy is properly described as goods for the purposes of the [sale of Goods Act 1923]," tribunal member Des Sheehan wrote in a judgement. "Expert evidence confirms that the defect was present at the time of sale and resulted in the goods being rendered unusable." Mr Sheehan ordered Ms Rockey to pay veterinarian costs of $2891 - representing the time until just before she asked the Dodges to return the puppy. Ms Rockey said last week the ruling was not appropriate and that she had introduced contracts requiring buyers to return puppies in the event of health problems. "I love the dogs. I breed and sell, and I want it all to go right," she said. Royal NSW Canine Council president Keith Irwin said his group would examine the decision. An online forum debating the case at http://www.dogzonline.com.au attracted several thousand hits and comments from breeders, many of whom said they should not be liable for rare illnesses. Now click on this link address that I've added to have a read of the actual case transcript:- http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/nsw/NSWCTTT/2005/440.html

G'day, Eddy here. Sounds like some dogs when they start Tracking and UD Scent Discrimination, and where the dogs just need some more time and practice so that they can interpret the scent information that spreading around so that they can learn how to use that to zero in, be it a scent track or scented article or scented food treat in the lounge room or backyard. Maybe you can use something a bit simpler as an initial stage, say in a room or backyard lay a line of treats about half a pace apart, then take your dog to the first one point to it and say "dinner or find or whatever" and you just might have to point to the second or more as well. Then after a few goes you may not have to point anymore, and at this time then do this again but in the dark, and then repeat this in some other locations also in the dark, then let us know what happened.

G'day, Eddy here. Some breeds of dogs certainly do have far better scenting abilities, say a blood hound probably might have far better scenting abilities than a beagle, and a beagle probably might have far better scenting abilities than a cavalier, and even within a breed there can be individual differences in scenting ability. But then I feel there is much more to tracking than just the dog's scenting abilities. Consider that maybe the beagle has taught themselves to "cast and find" the food within a kitchen that's overloaded with food scents. Maybe your doggie just needs some practice in casting and finding in kitchens, and maybe might learn quicker by first practicing in another room well away from the kitchen maybe even outside in the yard, then later after some practice try it again in the kitchen. Here is something to think of for the future. Over the years I've seen many dogs in tracking who certainly knew how to track really well as I saw them pass tracking tests, yet I've seen quite a few of them later on where they didn't even start the track and spent so much time fiddling at the start that the judge had no option but to fail them at the start, and then there are some who did start but lost it within the first hundred meters or at the first turn. So consider does the dog really wants to use their scenting abilities to track at that particular time for they just may not really want to for one reason or another.

G'day, Eddy here. Spitting treats certainly could help heel training for medium to large dogs, and could help small dogs such as Papillons but as I mentioned for Papillion sized dogs your spitting certainly would have to be pretty accurate with several factors in consideration. Personally I feel for a small dog you would be better of throwing the treats from your hand, maybe similarly like playing shooting marbles, your hand would be closer to the dog so maybe more accuracy due to distance involved plus other factors, and the smaller dog won't have to arc their head around and up as much so less tendency to go out of heel position when moving. I do throw treats as a stage of training to catching a small ball mid air, and on experience from this regarding small dogs well I don't spit or throw treats when heel training. I prefer to train the heel position first this in a static position (non moving position) where I train the sit, drop, stand and these in the heel position and doing these from one to another and using food treat rewards given from my hand. After a number of these short sessions and when the dog moves from one to another whilst still being in the heel position it is then I start mobile heeling stage, by first only taking a step and rewarding the dog for being in and maintaining the heel position for that step, then the number of steps taken are gradually increased with emphasis to avoid the dog going out of the heel position. I also introduce a stage of training where food treats are not even on me anywhere and where the doggie knows quite well the treats are well away elsewhere, and even in by using this you certainly can train heeling with the dog maintaining focus on either your face or hands or whatever, this even from the very start of training to heel, and this might suite dogs who say are not interested in food treats toys or faces or hands but more interested in other things elsewhere such as say the doggie prefers to focus on the scent on the ground or maybe the person nearby chopping away on a hamburger or maybe another dog piddling on the tree that your dog loves piddling on, yes even the dog that really wants to mark on trees can be used to train that dog to focus on your face or hands or whatever. One just has to know how to use what the dog really wants as a reward and you learn how to use that reward effectively in training this even if heel training. Well I'll keep doing what I'm doing and who knows maybe what I mentioned here on the forum might help some others with smaller dogs or even with larger dogs, just as spitting treats mentioned on the forum might also help some others.

Yep I can imagine, I feel that if you look at the size of a Papillon with the handler spitting treats, the spitting certainly would have to be pretty accurate with several factors in consideration. Meanwhile as the Papillion is focusing on the handler spitting treats they have less focus on the hands for signals including less focus on the legs for positioning, and especially less focus on the feet where they might suddenly experience getting trodden on or becoming a football. Believe me folks you can obtain full marks for heeling at trials without your dog focusing on your face, besides where in the ANKC Obedience Rules does it mention the dog has to focus on your face whilst heeling and if not the judge can impose a deduction.

G'day, Eddy here. Well slowone I feel I might be able to think of a few suggestions, here is one. Some dog owners certainly do work 40 hour a week, and during this time their dog maybe exposed to situations that might cause the dog to react to those situations. Well some dog owners do change the situation where their dog stays at a friends or relatives home where they can be looked after, similarly as what occurs with parents who work and who have children. Anyway, due to demand these are popping up around Australia, and if there is not one in your area and there is a demand by others then maybe consider this as a business opportunity for yourself or for someone else, and the below from this address:- http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/commo...%5E2682,00.html The Advertiser 17 April 2005 Now it's time for doggy daycare LIKE most daycare centres, there's lots of playing with toys, getting messy in the sandpit and running around – except these "children" are dogs! Pampered pooches craving exercise and companionship are having their needs catered for at what is believed to be SA's first day care centre for dogs. The Holdfast Dog Centre, on a former bowling green at Hove, accommodates up to 20 dogs a day in a fenced 1700sq m area. The latest craze in the US, the facility is the canine version of a childcare centre where dogs are looked after between 8am-6pm when their "parents" are at work. The growing number of owners who don't have time to look after their pets is the main reason the Holdfast Bay Dog Owners Association opened the centre with the help of Holdfast Bay Council. "There are some with separation anxiety issues, most with owners who work full-time, as well as single people who don't work anymore but don't want to leave their dogs home while they go shopping or to appointments," says association senior trainer Karen Molloy. "These days everyone works so hard and when they get home late they may not feel like taking the dog for a run or a walk. "The dogs are so absolutely exhausted after a day that they just flop into bed when they get home . . . they couldn't handle five days a week." One regular client visits from as far as Kangaroo Island during their owners' shopping sprees, while Lulu, a 19-month-old groodle (golden retriever and poodle cross) has been travelling from Aldgate twice a week for a year. Lulu's "mum", Clare Michell, who works at Flinders Medical Centre, said her pet was like a family member and she didn't want to leave her home alone. "My partner and I both work full-time and I didn't like her being left alone for extended periods of time," she said. "She used to chew the irrigation and dig holes when she was bored, but she doesn't do that now." The day is split up into organised activities including a "cat nap" indoors in airconditioned comfort, ball games and even massages. Naughty dogs are separated for a 10-minute "time out" but all are vetted before they can join up, with staff gauging their behaviour in the group for half an hour. Behavioural problems stemming from small backyards, apartment living and time-poor lifestyles are the focus of forums being organised by the Local Government Association and Dog and Cat Management Board. Ideas include councils setting up a database of people who can walk pets and more daycare centres. But Australian Veterinary Association SA division spokeswoman Dr Jenny Weston said owners needed to train their dogs from the time they were puppies to be happy alone. "I have a number of dogs on drugs for medication for separation anxiety," she said. "There are horror stories of people coming home to find ripped walls and doors, it can be really devastating.'

G'day, Eddy here. Firstly Denis as to the court case maybe I can find some things that went against Innotek, and keep in mind that Mr & Mrs Holliday of ("Orion" & "Innotek") had to pay Dr Wirth a total of $30,000 yet we only seem to hear about Innotek winning in court. From the below it might appear that the RSPCA recognises and accepts the use of "check chain" or "choker" collars and accepted that dogs were often trained by being hit with various implements, including rolled-up newspapers, then how can the RSPCA condoned the use of electric fences to keep dogs and domestic animals from straying or the use of electric shock anti-barking collars, and maybe this had something to do with the results of the case and that the RSPCA sells "check chain" or "choker" collars. Anyway here is some transcript from the case reflecting this, and keep in mind that the court case revolved around the "Trade Practices Act":- 116 The respondents accepted that the mere fact that a method of training involved the infliction of a measure of pain did not render it cruel. The RSPCA itself recognised that "check chain" or "choker" collars, products which it sold, could inflict pain. It also accepted that dogs were often trained by being hit with various implements, including rolled-up newspapers. It condoned the use of electric fences to keep dogs and domestic animals from straying. It also condoned the branding of horses and cattle with red-hot irons. Plainly this involved the infliction of pain. None of these techniques had been the subject of a "campaign" of the type which it had waged against electronic dog collars. Presumably they were not regarded as "cruel". 119 Innotek did not deny that the collars produced an unpleasant sensation, and one which could reasonably be characterised as "pain". Indeed, it contended that the collars would be worthless if they did not do so. The question was whether the level of "pain" produced could be justified, having regard to the benefits which the collars offered. 120 Innotek submitted that the evidence established that, in some cases, the only practical means to save a dog's life was the use of an electronic dog collar. Some dogs were at risk of being put down unless they stopped barking. Others were at risk of being killed by traffic unless they were prevented from straying. It was obvious that electronic dog collars could be used in a cruel manner. However, in any such case, it would be the misuse of the collar which would be cruel, and not the collar itself. Well Denis I also find some things strange especially when different states seem to mention different things, this may cause some confusion when utilising internet superhighways between states, well I'm tending to prefer to avoid confusion by reading what my state mentions. The chap in Tweed Heads maybe got confused between authorities and what applies in different states and what was advertised in NSW newspapers where just maybe NSW "things" were not mentioned in the advertisments, and maybe a good example that it's maybe best to find out and know what applies in ones own state meanwhile trying to avoid listening to what applies in other states. In Victoria where I am there appears to be some sort of restriction or requirement on electronic dog training collars that can impart an electric shock on a dog, where the RSPCA or some other authority may want to have a chat with the user of such a collar on a dog to see if the below is being complied with, and if everything is then everything maybe OK, but if not then there seems to be the mention of "Penalty: 5 penalty units". Also, as you mentioned "erotic toys" sorry but I really don't know about "erotic toys", but I have heard something in Victoria that various electronic stimulation devices are certainly used in the medical fields on humans, this by persons such as Physiotherapists who have had appropriate training and under their guidance others can use those devices at home, I feel something similar might also apply in the veterinary field. If anyone knows anything about this in Victoria then I'd love to hear some more, and I feel those in other states might like to hear more on what applies in their state. Anyway Denis, in regards to the collars mentioned below maybe someone can explain better than I can on what applies to those in Victoria, and the below from this address:- http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/con...997469/s7e.html Victorian Consolidated Regulations PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS REGULATIONS 1997 - SECT 7E 7E. Use of certain electronic collars prohibited (1) A person must not use an electronic dog training collar that can impart an electric shock on a dog or any other animal except in the circumstances in sub-regulation (2). Penalty: 5 penalty units. (2) Sub-regulation (1) does not apply to a person who uses an electronic dog training collar on a dog- (a) if a veterinary practitioner has examined the physical health and temperament of the dog and reasonably believes that the dog is suitable to have an electronic dog training collar used on it; and (b) the person is- (i) a veterinary practitioner; or (ii) acting on the instructions of a veterinary practitioner; or (iii) a qualified dog trainer (within the meaning of regulation 13(2) of the Domestic (Feral and Nuisance) Animals Regulations 19961); or (iv) acting under the supervision of a qualified dog trainer (within the meaning of regulation 13(2) of the Domestic (Feral and Nuisance) Animals Regulations 1996). As to what is a qualified dog trainer to the above in Victoria I feel this might explain so if your interested have a read of what's at this address:- http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/con...996403/s13.html Also I feel that if anyone wanted to import into Australia such collars as mentioned above I feel they would have to comply with the following that is on this webpage from this address and a copy below:- http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=4369#e1051 prohibited and restricted imports The Australian Government controls the import of certain goods into Australia. The controls either take the form of: # an absolute prohibition, which means that you are not allowed to import the goods in any circumstances, or # a restriction, where you need to have written permission in order to import the goods. The following information broadly outlines what goods are prohibited or restricted, where you can obtain more information about the control and, in the case of restricted goods, the mailing address or e-mail address to use to apply for permission to import. The Customs Information and Support Centre (CISC) can provide general information about Customs procedures in relation to prohibited and restricted goods. You can contact the CISC by telephone on 1300 363 263 or by e-mail at [email protected]. The information about prohibited and restricted goods provided on this website is a guide only. Customs recommends that you exercise care with its use. Customs further recommends that you seek more detailed information to ensure that you will comply with legislative requirements before attempting to import restricted goods. Dog collars - electronic and protrusion (restricted import) Description: Dog collars designed to cause an electric shock, or dog collars designed to puncture or bruise an animal's skin. Permits issued by: Minister for Justice and Customs More information: Customs Information and Support Centre Telephone: 1300 363 263 E-mail: [email protected] Address: Requests to import these goods should be addressed to: National Manager Cargo Branch Australian Customs Service 5 Constitution Avenue CANBERRA CITY ACT 2600 E-mail: [email protected]

G'day, Eddy here. As to success rate with anti-bark collars well maybe there should be some INDEPENDENT SURVEYS by people that have no political or financial gain from anti-bark collars. Many things that humans eat and even things that dogs eat could have an adverse effect and which could be described as poisonous effects, this according to how much eaten in a certain time in concentration plus individual tolerance effects, and this also in things that contact humans and dogs even in such things as Citronella. With this in mind I wonder what would be the effects of electrical stimulation on human tissue cells and dog tissue cells.

G'day, Eddy here. The same can happen with Electrical Stimulation Collars as does with Citronella Spray Collars. In modifying behaviours this can be more effectively accomplished if an alternative behaviour is used. Say in modifying a chewing behaviour where the dog chews on furniture, the lounge etc, this is more effectively accomplished by offering a chew toy that they dog can chew on and encouraging this by playing with the dog using that chew toy, or giving yet another alternative behaviour say digging in a sandpit to find some buried treats. In the examples I posted previously I suggested offering alternative behaviours, and with repetitions and if the dog enjoys these alternative behaviours then there might not be any need for an anti-barking collar at all. Simply try applying a training program to encourage more appropriate behaviours than barking behaviour, and also try removing what triggers the barking behaviour.

G'day, Eddy here. Some Local Councils have Citronella Spray No Bark Collars, where they hire these out to whoever needs them, and I've heard Councils mention that they are effective in about 80% of cases. There are alternatives one can do than use Citronella Spray No Bark Collars, and in relation to some rescues who barked and howled all night, surprising how many either immediately stopped or gradually stopped through the night or over a couple of night, when allowed to come inside to obtain some companionship either on the bed or next to the bed. I even know a lady with such a rescue whose husband wouldn't allow the doggie into the house and certainly not in the bedroom. Well she decided to bugger her husband where she slept with the doggie on some cushions on the laundry floor and there was no barking and howling through the night. After a couple of nights when the doggie was asleep she could leave the doggie in the laundry and where the doggie remained quite content, and I think that some little things helped in the process like leaving some of her well scented clothes in the laundry.