persephone Posted September 18, 2009 Share Posted September 18, 2009 How is he this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 There has been no improvements yet. The vet call this morning and we discussed options. At the moment I have my fingers crossed that it is related to the ear infection and will give him another 24-48 hours to see if there is any improvements. He doesn't appear to be in any pain and is still drinking well. I am a bit reluctant to feed him but his medication requires food so he is getting small amounts only. I am desperately hoping for some improvement by this afternoon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Rules Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Healing thoughts from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 There has been absolutely no signs of improvement It is so hard watching an otherwise active dog just laying there ... thankfully he don't appear to be in pain. After talking to the vet this morning we decided to give him until Monday to see if there is any improvements ... then we will need to seriously look at making some very hard decisions. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 After talking to the vet this morning we decided to give him until Monday to see if there is any improvements ... then we will need to seriously look at making some very hard decisions. Have you consulted with a good chiro? I'd at least give that a chance before I looked at making "hard decisions". I'm hoping for a good turn about for Tilly and yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all that glitters Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Surely more tests can be done to rule out other possibilities before 'hard decisions' comes into it?? Poor chap! He could have another good 4 or 5 years in him if he overcomes this hurdle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) Sheesh- sorry, but based on the info you have given....and the fairly dire state your dog is in, if he were mine, I would NOT be waiting until Monday!! Is there not another vet you can go to? What exactly did they test for..and have they considered perhaps he fell and hurt his back or something? ... have they tested for meningitis? I am also thinking that IV antibiotics, etc would work a LOT quicker and more effectively than tablets.... I know he's yours, and you are the one watching.... I just worry that something has been missed...... Edited September 19, 2009 by persephone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff'n'Toller Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) I was going to say I would be very concerned at this stage that it may be neurological and he really needs a further workup ASAP. Is he toiletting adequately? If he has been right as rain with is mobility up until now, it is not just old age or arthritis, it's an acute problem. Edited September 19, 2009 by Staff'n'Toller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 There is still no improvements. He has not toileted since Friday morning. As he had previously had prostate issues and if he doesn't toilet regularly (ie due to being confined) then he stops peeing - he again has a catheter to drain his bladder. He has had injections for increase the intake of anti-biotics. He is still drinking when offered water but I find if I leave the bucket with him then he will move away from it. I have to encourage him to eat as his medication is in the food (tablets in some mince). He has no pain in any of his hips, legs or spine - this has been thoroughly checked. He has feeling in his legs and a full range of movement but is unable to stand due to a weakness. Even though he is at home he is getting regular vet attention. Last time he was in hospital he was locked in his pen and no-one could go near him unless he was sedated - he can't go through that again. We have discussed a number of possiblities with the vet and at this stage unless there is some improvements then we just can't put him through this - none of the "possibles" are any good so we don't see the need to put him through all the tests when it will change nothing. Vesticular disease was our last hope - that things would improve in a couple of days ... because this would have been the best outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 :D Not good news. I am sorry , poor old boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all that glitters Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 (edited) We have discussed a number of possiblities with the vet and at this stage unless there is some improvements then we just can't put him through this - none of the "possibles" are any good Ohhh that's fair enough then, that's so sad :D And your right there's no point putting him through the stress of tests and clinic visits (which he obviously hates) if the outcomes are not definite anyway and prognosis aren't promising Edited September 19, 2009 by Shellectra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 He did a poo :D There has been no great improvement in him on a whole but he has done a poo so that is one good thing. Just about to take him up to the vet to get a new catheter - he destroyed the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 He did a poo cheer.gif cheer.gif :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all that glitters Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 He did a poo There has been no great improvement in him on a whole but he has done a poo so that is one good thing. Just about to take him up to the vet to get a new catheter - he destroyed the other one. :D Yay for #2's!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfgirl Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 He did a poo ;) There has been no great improvement in him on a whole but he has done a poo so that is one good thing. Just about to take him up to the vet to get a new catheter - he destroyed the other one. Yay great news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabrador Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Tilly I bet you've never been so happy to see a "lawn kransky" (sorry for those who haven't seen the advert ) I am thinking of you and hoping this is some mystery illness that he recovers from soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erny Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 (edited) Tilly .... Here's a link to a report by a person whose dog suffered vestibular disease - in this case claimed to have been caused by the use of a head collar. I don't know if that's what you use on your dog, but even if you do not, that's not the point of my posting the report. My point is to give you knowledge of the experiences of others. Cervical Vertibrae.pdf I don't know if this is of any help to you and your boy or not. I hope it is. Edited September 20, 2009 by Erny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilly Posted September 20, 2009 Author Share Posted September 20, 2009 I took the boy to the vet yesterday for a catheter ... and during the consult a very little tick was found!!!! This is despite him being checked from head to toe a number of times for ticks - it was the little lump (the size of a pea) that was found rather then the tick itself. He was immediately treated with anti-serum. The vet wanted him admitted into hospital but after he had a go at one of the nurses - he was allowed to come home with me. She had just told me he needed to be kept calm and stress free - and agreed hospital was not the right place for him. After a touch and go afternoon and night ... this morning his breathing is a little bit better. On talking to the vet - he did not have the typical signs of tick paralysis but she said he did not exactly have the right eye movement for Vesticular disease. She wouldn't be surprised if it was a combination of both... I am extremely thankful that he destroyed his catheter ... otherwise the nasty tick might not have been found until it was far too late. He is on his bed at the moment sleeping peacefully like a little angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabrador Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 Great news that you found the cause Tilly! Now fingers crossed that he continues to make an improvement. Any idea where the tick might have come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persephone Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 :D So glad you found the little bugger!! Hopefully now your boy has had the anti venom, and is home and resting he will continue to improve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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